Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 08, 2017, 03:43 PM
Hope to see you on Elaria Woon Reloaded soon!
We have a lot of people describing the server as their "home". I think we do our best to give players the feeling of finally getting a server that actually cares about the project and isn't just there for quick money grabbing. Considering we revamped the entire server just for the community and dind't give up, it should show that we're very dedicated =)
If you need anything or got any questions just feel free to ask!
Website: http://panel.playelaria.com/ (http://panel.playelaria.com/)
Forum: http://board.playelaria.com/ (http://board.playelaria.com/)
I really don't think you guys should continue advertising your server until the Admins are fully committed.
Daifuku is GMing on another server, Revival of Midgard. While Nihad has no interest in the server at the moment and busy with real life stuff.
I would normally vouch for you guys but the servers pretty much dead at this point.
Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 08, 2017, 04:09 PM
I really don't think you guys should continue advertising your server until the Admins are fully committed.
Daifuku is GMing on another server, Revival of Midgard. While Nihad has no interest in the server at the moment and busy with real life stuff.
I would normally vouch for you guys but the servers pretty much dead at this point.
This is a bad joke right?
I'm fully commited to the server and online every free minute I have. I am community helper on RoM but they know my #1 priority is Elaria and I mostly help with organization, jesus christ.
Nihad is busy at the moment but if you'd actually either open your eyes or play the server you'd know that we still have frequent and good maintenances/updates. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1429-20170107-changelog/ (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1429-20170107-changelog/)
We have a good and nice community at this point, thankfully all toxic people jumped to a different server.
People like you ruin servers like mine by spreading rumors like the server being dead.
xo Daifuku!
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 08, 2017, 05:58 PM
This is a bad joke right?
I'm fully commited to the server and online every free minute I have. I am community helper on RoM but they know my #1 priority is Elaria and I mostly help with organization, jesus christ.
Nihad is busy at the moment but if you'd actually either open your eyes or play the server you'd know that we still have frequent and good maintenances/updates. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1429-20170107-changelog/ (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1429-20170107-changelog/)
We have a good and nice community at this point, thankfully all toxic people jumped to a different server.
People like you ruin servers like mine by spreading rumors like the server being dead.
xo Daifuku!
Lol. I don't need to play a server to know it's dead. I don't see how a GM on one server can help another server at the same time. Seems like a conflict of interest, also seeing as how RoM is a direct competitor.
Just based on your response, I'd rather not join a server where the Admin is so easily provoked and agitated. I've known and am pretty close to Nihad, that's the only reason I even follow WoonRO. Prior to being Elaria WoonRO, I didnt even know wtf ElariaRO was.
And lol, I'm probably one of the biggest supporters of WoonRO but I'm not blindfully following it.
Yup, you got rid of all the toxic players from "your" server, guess it's not surprising to see only like 30 active players on it. Also pretty funny how you bash these "toxic" players yet you're helping RoM which has byfar the most toxic players and RO ruining players, aka WoE players. Seems pretty ironic and hypocritical.
Actually, I spoke with you near the beginning of Elaria Woon's opening. I told you to allow 3pps or your server would be a bust.(As did many others) You didn't believe and thought you guys were going to revolutionize RO. Guess what happened? Your server went to s*** real quick. You guys go on hiatus and then reintroduce the server with 3pps now. You have no idea what you're doing which explains why "your" server is absolute garbage.
Btw, frequent updates/maintanence doesn't mean your server is good. If you actually listened to the community back then, Elaria WoonRO might actually be good.
I'm pretty sure they can be a GM for Rise of Midgard and still run their server perfectly fine. /hmm
Server's been a flop since day one. Someone competent needs to open a Mid-Rate.
lmao all you bandwagon-ers will go back to Elaria as soon as your cash-gobbling servers start to die out (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rejoice.png)
Quote from: Tea_Pls on Jan 10, 2017, 09:34 PM
I'm pretty sure they can be a GM for Rise of Midgard and still run their server perfectly fine. /hmm
It's like working for Samsung while owning Apple. It's a conflict of interest. She'd rather GM on another server than host her own? If you own a server, I don't think it makes sense to help another. Especially since her own server only has like 50 people online and was pretty much a bust since day 1. She's against 3pp's yet she GMs on a server with the highest usage rate?
I have my own reserved opinion about the server, but I remembered last year how the players basically left for a new server hyped up which ultimately reduced the population to it's knees and never actually recovered while there was a few players who stayed for PVM when BG was technically dead. Fast forward to today, it's basically the same thing and most people who complain have already left the server. That's just it isn't? We complain, and if things don't go our way and a bit difficult we leave with our guild. This game was never designed for 3PP or AHKing(stay legit don't ahk) but people have made this tools to make it easier rather than spamming your keyboard. I disagree on this usage and I actually agreed when they disagree on everyone. We can't expect what we want to be implemented always, remember when Woon has all the things you mentioned? And what did the players do? They left the server for another hyped up server. We(players,myself included) just seem to have dropped the ball when a server needs population the most. Elaria is a manifestation of the defunct Woon, you can't go back and complain when the perfect server was left by players themselves and then blame Elaria for trying out something new and different and then blame them again. We players have to realize we are not entitled to have everything go our way and then complain about it(I think Blinzer said this or something) when the hard work is being done by the GM themselves with effort while we here are just moaning about how things are not alright. I urge the community to wake up, it's 2017 if we don't stand together then servers would die out. Even the cash shop is full of cosmetics items and not one that can make you simply buy out high-end gears like Well Chewed Pencil or Father's White Moustache. When they actually implemented what you guys have suggested, you're still complaining /wah. I just don't understand our own community and I dont think I'll ever will.
Also don't get me wrong, I don't like how the server allow cursed words, I don't like how some players(older) have favoritism(old woon) over some other because they have stucked longer than us and some other things but you know despite their faults, despite of their shenanigans you know it's a server still worth playing.
Quote from: Kolby on Jan 11, 2017, 02:14 AM
I have my own reserved opinion about the server, but I remembered last year how the players basically left for a new server hyped up which ultimately reduced the population to it's knees and never actually recovered while there was a few players who stayed for PVM when BG was technically dead. Fast forward to today, it's basically the same thing and most people who complain have already left the server. That's just it isn't? We complain, and if things don't go our way and a bit difficult we leave with our guild. This game was never designed for 3PP or AHKing(stay legit don't ahk) but people have made this tools to make it easier rather than spamming your keyboard. I disagree on this usage and I actually agreed when they disagree on everyone. We can't expect what we want to be implemented always, remember when Woon has all the things you mentioned? And what did the players do? They left the server for another hyped up server. We(players,myself included) just seem to have dropped the ball when a server needs population the most. Elaria is a manifestation of the defunct Woon, you can't go back and complain when the perfect server was left by players themselves and then blame Elaria for trying out something new and different and then blame them again. We players have to realize we are not entitled to have everything go our way and then complain about it(I think Blinzer said this or something) when the hard work is being done by the GM themselves with effort while we here are just moaning about how things are not alright. I urge the community to wake up, it's 2017 if we don't stand together then servers would die out. Even the cash shop is full of cosmetics items and not one that can make you simply buy out high-end gears like Well Chewed Pencil or Father's White Moustache. When they actually implemented what you guys have suggested, you're still complaining /wah. I just don't understand our own community and I dont think I'll ever will.
Also don't get me wrong, I don't like how the server allow cursed words, I don't like how some players(older) have favoritism(old woon) over some other because they have stucked longer than us and some other things but you know despite their faults, despite of their shenanigans you know it's a server still worth playing.
I remember you from Woon, I think.
The thing with Elaria was that all the old players/woe players/woon players all said to allow 3pps. Woon was successful because it was a home for people. People have played on it for years and so they come back to their hardwork once a hype server dies. It was always like that. Elaria has nothing, it's a brand new server with nobody's progress on it. Not only that, many of the woe players friends resided on Woon because kawaii.
Although Woon was not a "WoE server" it had 90% of the things needed to be one, players/3pps/setup. Elaria basically said "screw you" to all the woe players and even regular midrate players by not allowing the 3pps. Nihad and Daifuku were so uptight about attracting the "non-toxic, non-woe" players. Dude, reality check, there's like nobody like that nowadays. Elaria was trying to attract new RO players, except nobody new joins anymore.
Elaria had the hype necessary to be successful but they still managed to screw it up.
Quote from: Kolby on Jan 11, 2017, 02:14 AM
I have my own reserved opinion about the server, but I remembered last year how the players basically left for a new server hyped up which ultimately reduced the population to it's knees and never actually recovered while there was a few players who stayed for PVM when BG was technically dead. Fast forward to today, it's basically the same thing and most people who complain have already left the server. That's just it isn't? We complain, and if things don't go our way and a bit difficult we leave with our guild. This game was never designed for 3PP or AHKing(stay legit don't ahk) but people have made this tools to make it easier rather than spamming your keyboard. I disagree on this usage and I actually agreed when they disagree on everyone. We can't expect what we want to be implemented always, remember when Woon has all the things you mentioned? And what did the players do? They left the server for another hyped up server. We(players,myself included) just seem to have dropped the ball when a server needs population the most. Elaria is a manifestation of the defunct Woon, you can't go back and complain when the perfect server was left by players themselves and then blame Elaria for trying out something new and different and then blame them again. We players have to realize we are not entitled to have everything go our way and then complain about it(I think Blinzer said this or something) when the hard work is being done by the GM themselves with effort while we here are just moaning about how things are not alright. I urge the community to wake up, it's 2017 if we don't stand together then servers would die out. Even the cash shop is full of cosmetics items and not one that can make you simply buy out high-end gears like Well Chewed Pencil or Father's White Moustache. When they actually implemented what you guys have suggested, you're still complaining /wah. I just don't understand our own community and I dont think I'll ever will.
Also don't get me wrong, I don't like how the server allow cursed words, I don't like how some players(older) have favoritism(old woon) over some other because they have stucked longer than us and some other things but you know despite their faults, despite of their shenanigans you know it's a server still worth playing.
Trying to figure out what's more cringe worthy, this post or your quote about the wayfarer /hmm
I would like to clarify that it's not that I have no interest in running this server. I very much enjoyed working on Elaria and I still do. It has been an incredibly educational experience so far and I feel it will continue to be so. However the part about my IRL commitments is true.
As I have explained here: http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1494-im-still-alive/ (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1494-im-still-alive/)
My time on Elaria will slowly come back and I will resume my major tasks. But I think I have earned a 2 week leave to get my real life stuff in order. I apologize if people think differently. We are not abandoning the server, there are still major developments happening, it's just that they will take more time than usual. Even with my limited time I have continued to release significant updates to the server and have been helping Daifu expand her knowledge base.
Simply put, the server is doing fine. Unlike the last attempt, the server can support it self this time so there is no reason to even consider shutting it down. We would certainly like to see it grow, but I think that will come with time and us earning the players' trust.
Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 10, 2017, 11:46 PM
It's like working for Samsung while owning Apple. It's a conflict of interest. She'd rather GM on another server than host her own? If you own a server, I don't think it makes sense to help another. Especially since her own server only has like 50 people online and was pretty much a bust since day 1. She's against 3pp's yet she GMs on a server with the highest usage rate?
I won't even bother replying to the other stuff you wrote but let me tell you following:
What I do in my free time next to elaria, if it's doing graphics for almost every other server out there (which I do, because I have a paid service topic on hercules/am in the herc staff as graphics moderator) or if I help other servers out in general, is my business.
If you can not handle two jobs at the same time, that's your problem not mine.
I have and always will be most active on elaria but if I feel like working on some other RO or NON-RO related things then who are you to judge me?
Conflict of interest? I am not the server owner of RoM, I don't have to help a server because I love every single decision they make or their server setup. I help them because I know the owners or because they need someone in the things I am good with.
Maybe in your opinion it's bad to help the "competition" but to me I don't see people as competition, f*** I even did graphics for the owner of At**sRO even if they "destroyed our server" as some people said. I just like to help people and everyone who knows me knows that too.
To RoM being our "direct competition"? Their server is completely different than ours, it's a lowrate and caters a complete different audience of players. Their features and systems are completely different too.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Don't judge a book by it's cover BestPlayerEver, I've worked on way more than just one server before and managed it perfectly fine.
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 12, 2017, 11:47 AM
I won't even bother replying to the other stuff you wrote but let me tell you following:
What I do in my free time next to elaria, if it's doing graphics for almost every other server out there (which I do, because I have a paid service topic on hercules/am in the herc staff as graphics moderator) or if I help other servers out in general, is my business.
If you can not handle two jobs at the same time, that's your problem not mine.
I have and always will be most active on elaria but if I feel like working on some other RO or NON-RO related things then who are you to judge me?
Conflict of interest? I am not the server owner of RoM, I don't have to help a server because I love every single decision they make or their server setup. I help them because I know the owners or because they need someone in the things I am good with.
Maybe in your opinion it's bad to help the "competition" but to me I don't see people as competition, f*** I even did graphics for the owner of At**sRO even if they "destroyed our server" as some people said. I just like to help people and everyone who knows me knows that too.
To RoM being our "direct competition"? Their server is completely different than ours, it's a lowrate and caters a complete different audience of players. Their features and systems are completely different too.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Don't judge a book by it's cover BestPlayerEver, I've worked on way more than just one server before and managed it perfectly fine.
Seems like you know a lot, why don't you put more time in that 50 pop server of yours with amazing revolutionizing non-3pp mechanics. If you consider your project as a success, that's pretty sad.
RoM is definitely a direct competitor and if you fail to see that, you must be retarded. The only way you can even stay relevant is if you manage to bring some WoE guilds onto your server. RoM/DoM has all of them right now. Just because the rates are different doesn't mean it's not targeting the same audience. In fact, a lot of players on RoM were from WoonRO.
They make it lowrate so people reach endgame faster, donate more, and thus making the server life longer. Everyone knows RoM is gonna die within a year like DoM.
I mean really, those players always have WoERO to fall back on.
From what I read, you basically accept any job that pays. Fair enough.
Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 12, 2017, 12:53 PM
...with amazing revolutionizing non-3pp mechanics...
...From what I read, you basically accept any job that pays. Fair enough...
1) Leading back to my first reply to your nonsense
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 08, 2017, 05:58 PM
if you'd actually either open your eyes or play the server you'd know
3PPs have been active since weeks.
2) Not getting paid from RoM, not getting paid from anything else except my paid services and even there I barely charge for things.
But yeah, go ahead and continue talking s***, seems like the only thing you can do. /kis
Daifuku out.
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 12, 2017, 01:06 PM
1) Leading back to my first reply to your nonsense 3PPs have been active since weeks.
3pps were active only once you realized your server was a complete bust. You didn't listen to the community when they were willing to give you a try.
You guys literally ignored every single cry from the community asking for it to be allowed. You thought "hey, im gonna try and cater this server towards the 10 random new players that are new to RO that will join."
I mean, your server population speaks for itself. Pray that RoM dies and you manage to steal some players.
Peace
Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 12, 2017, 01:14 PM
I mean, your server population speaks for itself. Pray that RoM dies and you manage to steal some players.
Peace
SMFH how do you not understand the RO cycle yet after years of nerding around? It goes like this;
1. People get hyped
2. Game releases
3. Disappointment
4. Repeat the cycle
This pretty much been the case for almost any cash gobbling LR/MR/HR. I don't see how you fail to realize that Elaria is run more for the passion than the money. I mean they only had aesthetic donations for like majority of the time and switched to adding more donates after the community requested for it.
It would be easy for them to pull a Yrvine and just randomly shut the server and go on vacation but instead the GMs are still trying to provide substantial updates for the remaining loyal community whilst busy with real life commitments.
Ultimately this s*** gonna stand the test of time, just like woon did. So instead of being a generic RO bandwagon-er, step up your game this 2k17.
More Life fo mi bruddas
Man, other servers doesn't even have a website that's as pretty as Elaria's. With just that, you'll know that the developers are really into it. Also, if Elaria's domain was elaria.ragnarok.gs or elaria.ro-online.net, then I'll advise you to stay away but it doesn't. (and the admin even responded to you which proves that they're concerned to their community and no conflict of interest has ever happened)
Quote from: Neffletics on Jan 13, 2017, 08:03 AM
..the developers are really into it.
I think people don't even realize how much time Nihad and I put into the server and how much dedication.
We made shifts so players would always have at least one of the admins available, also when we were getting ddosed. Nihad stood up til 7AM so I could get some rest because I literally just slept 4 hours a day. We prepare maintenances beforehand and dedicate every single minute we have to the server. We revamped the entire server and threw away months of preparing because the community disliked the idea of a LR+MR mix. We could've just said 'alright then f*** you' like most server owners do but instead we changed everything and yet people claim that we do not listen to the community. It's freaking hard as a server owner, no matter what you do it's never enough and never the right thing but we're still here trying to do our best, even after a half year of barely having more than 250 players.
Quote from: Kris on Jan 12, 2017, 04:25 PM
I don't see how you fail to realize that Elaria is run more for the passion than the money. I mean they only had aesthetic donations for like majority of the time and switched to adding more donates after the community requested for it.
It would be easy for them to pull a Yrvine and just randomly shut the server and go on vacation but instead the GMs are still trying to provide substantial updates for the remaining loyal community whilst busy with real life commitments.
Ultimately this s*** gonna stand the test of time, just like woon did. So instead of being a generic RO bandwagon-er, step up your game this 2k17.
^This is exactly what I've been saying to Nihad a while ago. If we were after the money we could've just opened a copypaste server, hire some famous person for PH area that advertises for us and grab the cash. But we're not, instead the first months we only had cosmetic donations for 2 bucks in the cash shop and I even used my personal money to pay the advertising. The community is so f*** up and I don't even understand how they prefer cash servers over something purely free to play.
Quote from: Kolby on Jan 11, 2017, 02:14 AM
We(players,myself included) just seem to have dropped the ball when a server needs population the most. Elaria is a manifestation of the defunct Woon, you can't go back and complain when the perfect server was left by players themselves and then blame Elaria for trying out something new and different and then blame them again. ..the hard work is being done by the GM themselves with effort while we here are just moaning about how things are not alright. I urge the community to wake up, it's 2017 if we don't stand together then servers would die out. When they actually implemented what you guys have suggested, you're still complaining /wah.
+1 to that Kobly.
ugh just coming around this one quickly
Daifuku barely works on rom, she helped me a bit when I was unavailable but its always been clear between her and I that Elaria was her top first priority.
I fully support woon-elaria project as I think it's a great midrate and if I can help Daifuku anyhow in exchange of her assistance on RoM I'll gladly do it. It'd be the same with any other server that I believe deserve fame / is ran by passionates.
People tend to not understand you help each other in RO Scene, while they commonly abandon good servers people put their hearts into to play on a 0815 money making server.
Elaria was something fresh and they worked a lot on it. I don't think you can blame them for trying someting new. And why would you care Daifuku helping other servers? You like people craving for exclusivity while pirating the community better?
"We told you to do X/Y"
Suggestions are nice and everything and I believe Daifu is open for most and working on a lot - But you should get your donkey together when a suggestion is declined and don't act that childish.
Quote from: Zinnia on Jan 17, 2017, 04:56 AM
ugh just coming around this one quickly
Daifuku barely works on rom, she helped me a bit when I was unavailable but its always been clear between her and I that Elaria was her top first priority.
I fully support woon-elaria project as I think it's a great midrate and if I can help Daifuku anyhow in exchange of her assistance on RoM I'll gladly do it. It'd be the same with any other server that I believe deserve fame / is ran by passionates.
/kis I don't need anything Zin & you know that! I'm glad I can be of help even if it's not much.
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Quote from: Didley on Jan 17, 2017, 07:11 AM
People tend to not understand you help each other in RO Scene, while they commonly abandon good servers people put their hearts into to play on a 0815 money making server.
Elaria was something fresh and they worked a lot on it. I don't think you can blame them for trying someting new. And why would you care Daifuku helping other servers? You like people craving for exclusivity while pirating the community better?
"We told you to do X/Y"
Suggestions are nice and everything and I believe Daifu is open for most and working on a lot - But you should get your donkey together when a suggestion is declined and don't act that childish.
Thanks for the support Didley!
I kinda felt bad and asked myself if it's wrong to help the "competition" after this whole rant about it but if it's wrong to help other people .. then I don't know what to say anymore.
Quote from: Neffletics on Jan 13, 2017, 08:03 AM
Man, other servers doesn't even have a website that's as pretty as Elaria's. With just that, you'll know that the developers are really into it. Also, if Elaria's domain was elaria.ragnarok.gs or elaria.ro-online.net, then I'll advise you to stay away but it doesn't. (and the admin even responded to you which proves that they're concerned to their community and no conflict of interest has ever happened)
Only a handful of servers are left with the passion to deliver a good RO server, aside from trying to make money out of it.
Servers driven by passion?
- Elaria
- Sorin
- Rise of Midgard
- Nova
- Midi [ yup im putting it up there because i know we are ]
aside from that, i doubt anybody else is actually trying. everything else just feels generic copy-paste
I have a reputation to play only the best RO servers (minus Yrvine servers, which were occasionally fun)
If you're reading this and/or are looking for a good mid rate which will last for years with a dedicated staff , stop wasting time and download the Elaria client already /no1
From a relatively unbiased point of view, I've received nothing but good help from Daifuku.
I understand some of her time is used somewhere else, but I believe that it's her business and being able to delegate her responsibilities is part of her job as an administrator.
People seem to be more focused on the fact that their time is divided, rather than the actual quality of their work and the amount of work prepared beforehand in preparation for a circumstance like this.
Quote from: DontPingMe on Jan 18, 2017, 11:52 AM
People seem to be more focused on the fact that their time is divided, rather than the actual quality of their work and the amount of work prepared beforehand in preparation for a circumstance like this.
Exactly. As long as she can still fulfill her duties as an administrator, her side projects shouldn't matter (or whatever she does outside Elaria).
Not to mention I barely did anything for RoM lately, feel kinda bad for it - but elaria + RL consuming my whole time currently. :v
Quote from: Prism~ on Jan 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
Server's been a flop since day one. Someone competent needs to open a Mid-Rate.
Btw, I just saw that comment. Do you have some personal problems with me or something? Ever since this Aevir MR server you was staff on failed you seem to jump around and trash my server and call me incompetent even though you prolly haven't played elaria woon reloaded once nor know me properly.
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 18, 2017, 01:55 PM
Not to mention I barely did anything for RoM lately, feel kinda bad for it - but elaria + RL consuming my whole time currently. :v
Moral support?
You also make his baguette rise faster than any oven. /??
Oh my god at the amount of butthurt in this thread.
Dai is super freaking passionate about her server, I know, I've been her friend for YEARS. She is one of the most dedicated people I know...yet you're here crying because stuff wasnt implemented that you felt needed to be?
Its not your server. Sure, you have opinions, awesome. Everyone has them, but they dont have to implement things if they dont want to. Its not your server, its their server, it gets done how they see fit. Don't like it? Find another server, open a server. I'd rather you do the second, so you can see how hard it is to accumulate players and try to cater to all their needs successfully.
Who cares if she helps with RoM? Two different servers, two different goals, two different rates. Def not competition IMO. Also its up to her if she helps a server or not, I think its a breath of fresh air to see someone working on two servers, it shows that there is no ill will an they both want each server to succeed or whatever.
Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jan 19, 2017, 01:39 AM
Oh my god at the amount of butthurt in this thread.
Dai is super freaking passionate about her server, I know, I've been her friend for YEARS. She is one of the most dedicated people I know...yet you're here crying because stuff wasnt implemented that you felt needed to be?
Its not your server. Sure, you have opinions, awesome. Everyone has them, but they dont have to implement things if they dont want to. Its not your server, its their server, it gets done how they see fit. Don't like it? Find another server, open a server. I'd rather you do the second, so you can see how hard it is to accumulate players and try to cater to all their needs successfully.
Who cares if she helps with RoM? Two different servers, two different goals, two different rates. Def not competition IMO. Also its up to her if she helps a server or not, I think its a breath of fresh air to see someone working on two servers, it shows that there is no ill will an they both want each server to succeed or whatever.
/kis Love you!
Quote from: ElariaRO on Jan 18, 2017, 01:55 PM
Not to mention I barely did anything for RoM lately, feel kinda bad for it - but elaria + RL consuming my whole time currently. :v
Btw, I just saw that comment. Do you have some personal problems with me or something? Ever since this Aevir MR server you was staff on failed you seem to jump around and trash my server and call me incompetent even though you prolly haven't played elaria woon reloaded once nor know me properly.
Just ignore, there's a term called "crab mentality." And I believe it applies on him.
Hello there!
Before I go deeper into this topic, Ima tell my experience I had with Elaria Woon RO so far. And yeh, I dont mind writing long stuff, have fun reading ;)
Right ahead, the usual tl;dr:
Spoiler
On a search lookout accidently found this topic, but I've read through it. Must admit it makes me really sad to see how parts of the RO community developed over the years and some aspects became even worse. Elaria is an excellent server imo, period.
It was back in November 2016, when a friend and me decided out of the sudden, "screw League of Legends, lets give RO again a try!". We both play this game together since 2005 and always appeared on serveral servers here and there over the years. On our first peek in the search for a server we directly found an entry Elaria being advertised.
Usually, we determine our choice of joining or not over these criterias:
-> Q: What are the server's settings/stats/whatsoever? Do they fit with what we are used to play?
-> Q: How is the website / forum designed? Does it show dedication or is it just a copypaste Frontend / InvisionBoard?
-> Q: How is the population? Is it at least 50+ (room for growing, remembers me to VisionRO) or is there no point because its 20+, 18 autovends?
-> Q: Donation level? Paytowin or stuff gainable by normal means?
-> Q: Why this server and not the server listed above/below? Is there something noteworthy we want to see?
In addition, Im an old Woonie from back 2014 as well. Seeing and knowing Nihad's name and his good reputation of getting things done.
So yeah. Elaria went also to our "precheck" and passed. Settings were on point! And I remember me telling Malte on Skype "dude, this website is awesome. Rarely see such a good sorted and designed page. If theres love in it, its also in the server." (basically, that alone already earned bonus points).
QuoteMan, other servers doesn't even have a website that's as pretty as Elaria's. With just that, you'll know that the developers are really into it.
^ this.
Also the donation level looked absolutely mannered and not exaggerated, so yeh. Passed. What took our interest was the instance/player soul system, because I can remember about something like this on ImmortalRO 7 years ago, and hell I loved it. So we waited till opening to join the server.
I clearly remember my first encounter with Daifuku on the server during the first 3 days. I asked over PM about the donation system and how to use it, and the reply surprised and impressed me really. "Whywanna donate? D: Heh, if you are in need of Amber pearls, heck, wait. Ima start an event for the community, maybe you get lucky!" So basically, instead of grabbing my cash on the go (and hell, she could), she became the first admin Ive met so far who "refused" and instead just hosted an event. Lol. No better proof for me to get confirmed why this server. It simply doesnt want to be pay-to-win. Donations are welcome, but not needed or begged for.
In the end, I donated a bit few weeks later anyway, because I wanted to reward it for my conviction about this server. (btw, isnt that the original intention donations were "invented" for?)
QuoteI don't see how you fail to realize that Elaria is run more for the passion than the money. I mean they only had aesthetic donations for like majority of the time and switched to adding more donates after the community requested for it.
^ this
Yeh. What also impressed me a lot was the way players were included in almost every decision about changing/implementing stuff. If there was an idea or a suggestion of change, go for the forums, open a topic and let people discuss it. If majority was for it, it got implemented/changed. I have seen servers being runned by the ideas of the admins only (RaijeRO), I have seen compromisses (CadoRO), but I haven't experienced a server fully community driven like this yet. Democracy. Hell, yeah. And I love it.
Quote@topicstarter: People will always moan if they are in the minority and lost a vote. But do you leave your home and country because your favorite party wasnt elected? (oke, according to whats going on in USA with Trump, uhm.... xD but thats OT). Accept it as it is, or go your way, RO always has been like this. Nobody forces you to stay. Midrates those days allow people to actually leave, because its so fkin easy to reproduce progress on another server. So whats your reason of this tread here?
The community I have encountered so far is 85% non toxic and friendly. Sure, there is some drama (who doesnt love it?) sure there is the usual WoE-Aftershowparty (trashtalk), but after over 10 years of RO? Gettin used to it. Btw on that "community" thingy: A few days ago me and my guildies were talking a bit about Daifuku and we came to the conclusion: While Nihad is doing the technical stuff (cauz he is amazing at it), Daifuku takes care about the community itself. The way she is talking / interacting with the players, dealing with drama, dealing with problems or dealing with douchebags. Reading here that she is working to improve the community of another server? I am not surprised. She is simply excellent at it.
Daifuku, Pleahse, do it! Because you fight against the waves of flaming/ranting/ spoon fed kids who are just too lazy to socialise / put effords in a free game. QuotePeople tend to not understand you help each other in RO Scene, while they commonly abandon good servers people put their hearts into to play on a 0815 money making server.
^ this. RO is a dying game. Instead of this tread there should be more love between servers and collaboration going on (like Daifu did with Nihad, does with that other server) to create what this whole was made for: "RO EXPERIENCE". And do you know for who it is? For us. We get it. For free. We dont even need to pay for it. Did you all forgot about this already? :/
I have been a server administrator myself, also with the intention to add something new to the big pot of ideas. Back in 2012, it was BitRO, a try to create a no-rebirth Server (like Sarah Server today doing successfully). Why it died? Because people didnt differ between "true love for an idea/ RO" and "Oh I wanna become a server owner and make cash". I sacrificed a lot for this idea and saw it dying, so I know what Im talking about. It made me sad that time, that people dont work together on ideas to push out something outstanding, and instead fight a concurrence over numbers of players. And it just makes me sad, that nothing changed since back then.
Okay, all stories should come to an end, so does mine.
ElariaWoonRO is worth it and I believe in its future. Wont simply leave because of hard times, and I have my reasons for that. If ElariaWoon would do fishy things, that would be something else, but they don't. The Admins do their best that we lousy unthankful players can spend hours over night to make friends and pvp woe or whatever s*** you do in RO.
FOR FREE. Fks sake. Be thankful. Or go play CS GO.
@Artemsis - Thank you so much for your kind words. I had tears in my eyes when I first read it, just didn't had the time to reply to it yet.
I'm glad that some people see how much effort we put into all of this.
QuoteDaifuku, Pleahse, do it! Because you fight against the waves of flaming/ranting/ spoon fed kids who are just too lazy to socialise / put effords in a free game.
/kis /kis /kis /kis /kis /kis
I'm so happy to have you and your friends on the server!
Daifuku, which I assume ElariaRO's user definitely one of the best and chillest GM's i've had the pleasure to meet and whip me into shape.
Yet, I would suggest heading over to their forums to see what is actually going on.
And there it goes.
Now if people listened to me, they could of saved a few hundred hours of grinding for this server.
People seem to think just because the server was run out of passion, that it's a good server.
Which server is everyone gonna waste their time on next? I bet everyone is on AbraRO. Its funny how players complain about Cookie/Yrvine yet you guys all knowingly flock to their servers. I mean, if I could host a server, I'd abuse the retarded RO community too.
Quote from: Develon on Apr 09, 2017, 12:42 AM
Daifuku, which I assume ElariaRO's user definitely one of the best and chillest GM's i've had the pleasure to meet and whip me into shape.
Yet, I would suggest heading over to their forums to see what is actually going on.
Thanks Develon!
Yeah the server went struggle-mode after I left for my trip to Japan. But I am back now, I'll see what the current state of the server is and if we can still work with it.
ahk farming for life (http://i.imgur.com/RjyVXUg.png)
Lol, it's funny how time showed the truth. I told you that you should probably stop advertising until you're fully committed. All this back and forth bsing and yet you even said yourself that you're not committed anymore.
Just saying, don't be fooled by thinking that you're the reason the server stayed alive this long. People are just being nice. The reason the server died was because there was no active GM. Period. You just happened to be that inactive GM.
If anything, I'm an Elaria supporter but if s*** is s***, I'm gonna call it out. I hope you guys do it right this time. Then people like Kris and I can stop trolling forums and start playing. Sure as hell not going to Yrvine's s***.
Quote from: Develon on Apr 09, 2017, 12:42 AM
Yet, I would suggest heading over to their forums to see what is actually going on.
http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/2000-news-moving-forward/#comment-15081 (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/2000-news-moving-forward/#comment-15081) (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/sass2.png)
Just to add one note about Daifuku, from the few conversations we had together, I can vouch for her. Dedicated and passionate. It's sad that quality servers don't get the attention they deserve.
We heard this was coming already. They should of taken off nihad from the admin straight up.
Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 12, 2017, 01:14 PM
3pps were active only once you realized your server was a complete bust. You didn't listen to the community when they were willing to give you a try.
You guys literally ignored every single cry from the community asking for it to be allowed. You thought "hey, im gonna try and cater this server towards the 10 random new players that are new to RO that will join."
I mean, your server population speaks for itself. Pray that RoM dies and you manage to steal some players.
Peace
Yeah now they are not even turning online or updating the server.. Better to shut down than giving players false hopes.
Quote from: ShawnPorter on Apr 24, 2017, 02:48 AM
Yeah now they are not even turning online or updating the server.. Better to shut down than giving players false hopes.
Also last update was just a few days ago aswell: http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/2001-20170416-changelog/#comment-15114 (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/2001-20170416-changelog/#comment-15114)
So, please just stop talking trash - thanks.
Recently joined this server because it was in the top 10 or something..
Anyways, after hearing, reading about all the stuff that is going on with this server, and talking to the leftover community, I think we can make the server fun again.
The community that is still active is extremely friendly and helpful and already made me want to stay and try to get the population growing.
I probably don't know half of what happened in the past but as a new player, I can say it is worth it!
I have played on the server since it had opened, and planned to continue until I read this thread. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/ (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/)
It honestly sounds like you are blaming the players for what had recently happened, unfortunately I disagree. It's not the players fault(nor was it our idea, suggestion, or plan) to implement an event that wipes the server. On top of that no one saw a staff member for weeks following the implementation of this event. Not to say it's every staff members fault for being absent, I can understand Daifuku's irl predicament. However the staff that did have it implemented(while dai was gone) didn't respond to it for weeks despite the loss in players(2/3 of the pop.) and the complaints in game/forums. To only turn around and blame the players after all of what happened, to me, is irresponsible. In fact, if they had maintained their previous server's setup(just before the wipe) there would be only 10-30 total players. Yet after they began accepting suggestions the server began climbing in numbers. It's like Nihad is John DeLorean except angrier at the people for not buying his weird car
Quote from: Bottles on Apr 24, 2017, 12:18 PM
I have played on the server since it had opened, and planned to continue until I read this thread. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/ (http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/)
It honestly sounds like you are blaming the players for what had recently happened, unfortunately I disagree. It's not the players fault(nor was it our idea, suggestion, or plan) to implement an event that wipes the server. On top of that no one saw a staff member for weeks following the implementation of this event. Not to say it's every staff members fault for being absent, I can understand Daifuku's irl predicament. However the staff that did have it implemented(while dai was gone) didn't respond to it for weeks despite the loss in players(2/3 of the pop.) and the complaints in game/forums. To only turn around and blame the players after all of what happened, to me, is irresponsible. In fact, if they had maintained their previous server's setup(just before the wipe) there would be only 10-30 total players. Yet after they began accepting suggestions the server began climbing in numbers. It's like Nihad is John DeLorean except angrier at the people for not buying his weird car
There have been mistakes from both sides.
I think the biggest one from my side was the lack of communication within the staff and the community while I was gone.
Maybe I should've planned things better and searched for a few more dedicated staff member to take care of the server during the time.
But what's done is done. All I can do now is to re-build the server once again since giving up is not my strength. :)
Maybe, someday people will come back - and if not, at least I can't blame myself for abandoning the server or shutting it down out of no where like other server owner do.
As a old Elaria player, Honestly i dont know what actually is the main reason that the server doesnt grow well. for me elaria is really a very great server compare to other midrate, maybe just because of custome? 3pps issue? idk but what i know is some of the dumbass player make alot of noise regarding 3pps issue. after that the server population getting down and down. its really a waste that Elaria doesnt grow they have really good GMs , willing to hear suggestion from everyone and the community are very nice. if there is chance the server grow, it really worth to stay at elaria. (opologize for my poor english /heh)
Quote from: highmax on Apr 26, 2017, 05:43 AM
As a old Elaria player, Honestly i dont know what actually is the main reason that the server doesnt grow well. for me elaria is really a very great server compare to other midrate, maybe just because of custome? 3pps issue? idk but what i know is some of the dumbass player make alot of noise regarding 3pps issue. after that the server population getting down and down. its really a waste that Elaria doesnt grow they have really good GMs , willing to hear suggestion from everyone and the community are very nice. if there is chance the server grow, it really worth to stay at elaria. (opologize for my poor english /heh)
The main reason is I guess is as you said already. The concept isn't clear and set, it still isn't. I have no idea which direction they are going now. It seems more 3pp and custom direction.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 26, 2017, 02:34 PM
The main reason is I guess is as you said already. The concept isn't clear and set, it still isn't. I have no idea which direction they are going now. It seems more 3pp and custom direction.
imagine thinking 3pps are not essential for a mid rate to succeed in the 21st century (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_frxnfkb.png)
Quote from: Kris on Apr 28, 2017, 06:41 PM
imagine thinking 3pps are not essential for a mid rate to succeed in the 21st century (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_frxnfkb.png)
It depend on what their definition for success is, it could be different from your narrow 21th century view, which is in fact a very old and aged approach.
Anyway, you can' t mix legit playing together with Openkore or AHK bot users it just doesn't work.
Quote from: Styx on May 04, 2017, 02:03 PM
It depend on what their definition for success is, it could be different from your narrow 21th century view, which is in fact a very old and aged approach.
Anyway, you can' t mix legit playing together with Openkore or AHK bot users it just doesn't work.
THANK YOU!
Finally somebody to say the truth.