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Offline Archive

Ragnaclan
« on: Oct 07, 2017, 12:36 PM »
So apparently, you will get banned from their discord if you ask/state something that's obvious + get your messages deleted.
Do they have something to hide? Or do they feel guilty for actually copying another server and claim it as theirs?

So a question was asked earlier (a legit one as a lot of players were curious too)
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There was no response so:
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Apparently, Daifuku *coughansweredcough* the question via DM with just "No, Juvia isn't part of Ragnaclan or his staff" but failed to clear the fact that she didn't copy ANYTHING from Atlas RO.
It's a bit obvious that her Donation list, her so-called "ideas" and a lot of her content including their Forum and her post structure/coloring format is deniably similar to Atlas RO.

Could probably say more but she's such a waste of my time.
I'm only posting to let others know that if you end up stating the truth by any means, you will also get banned lol
So much for being a "mature" admin. More like an immature/hot-headed amateur.

Was it that hard to just answer that question for you to go out your way and ban my friend?
It's not like she's the first one to ask that question anyways. You probably deleted all Atlas related questions or ignored them all.

Anyways, just going to put this up here. Not even going to bother reading the comments since it's probably going to be full of that immature so-called "Admin"'s fans.

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Offline Yuzo

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #1 on: Oct 07, 2017, 03:25 PM »
seems like you're trying to bait under the guise of politeness.

Offline bebox123

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #2 on: Oct 07, 2017, 05:30 PM »
If that's the case then I think that's considered as corruption as they're just using their admin powers to avoid issues being thrown to their server. That's why it is very hard to open up to GM's/Admin's when they are in control of a page or a group. Automatic it's a big no-no for me if that's the case.

Offline Daifuku.

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #3 on: Oct 08, 2017, 06:25 AM »
There's no similarity except possibly the font color, which is part of our theme color scheme showcased in the spoiler.
I have worked with three different people on our designs, asking for opinions and to clear this up: The entire server graphics have been inspired by Rise of Midgard. I have worked on the theme together with Zinnia (RoM owner) and got his approval for getting the inspiration from his old servers graphics.

Forum/Website accusation:
Ragnaclan color scheme:
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Ragnaclan Forum:
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AtlasRO Forum:
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Ragnaclan Website:
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AtlasRO Website:
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(picture taken from their forum's post since their website is down)

Ingame content accusation:
All NPCs you can find on Ragnaclan except for the Clan Leaders and Rates Inflation System have been on Elaria Woon Reloaded (which opened before Atlas was even announced in any way) and on WoonRO, which shut down over a year ago.


I reserved the rights to ban said person from our discord after the s*** on our RMS reviews, thankfully got deleted by yC after reporting it.
I know I have some haters out there and that's totally fine because I also know there's a lot more enjoying the work I deliver.

You probably deleted all Atlas related questions or ignored them all.
Discord deletes all messages from banned players made within 24 hours and I answered to your friend.
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EDIT: Just saw the Donation part, you realize that AltasRO did not invent the Midrate scene and that Boxes/Bundles/Crates have been available on a lot of other Servers over the past years, right?
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Offline bebox123

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #4 on: Oct 08, 2017, 01:50 PM »
Yes, you have the right to ban people but that doesn't mean if someone asks something which you think lessens the reputation of your server then I think you can ban him/her but if a person ask you regarding the server infos or something to do with the server then don't burst out and just ban people just because he/she opened up such topic. Defending your server is not a difficult thing to do if you know what you're doing.

Offline Insomnia2000

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #5 on: Oct 08, 2017, 05:06 PM »
I'm all for some good RO drama and accusations of theft, but this seems like just another upset player that got banned, even if it was just from discord.

If I'm missing something OP, please add to your post. I don't see anything original by Ragnaclan in terms of ideas, but that's mostly because RO pservers have been around for forever. I highly doubt that Ragnaclan was the first to come up with any of their ideas for features or cash shop items. Sure they can aggregate features or put their own spin on them, but it's very rare to see completely new features in the RO scene.

You can't really get upset when one server uses features and ideas of another server unless there is some sort of actual stealing going on. That would involve their website copy-pasting HTML/CSS or if their NPCs were directly taken by a staff member who was a GM at both places. Just examples.

Doesn't look like there's any evidence provided that shows that Ragnaclan is directly stealing content: images, HTML/CSS, NPC scripts, source code, etc. If you have any actual evidence, feel free to post it up.

It's also their server and their discretion to ban based on what they find unruly or disruptive behavior. If you were trying to instigate or cause harm to the server, it's no surprise they might block you in some way. You provided a few lines of dialogue and claim that's why you got banned. Simply for asking. I doubt that's why you were banned.

P.S. I don't play on Ragnaclan or endorse them, you just don't seem to have a case.

Offline Kris

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #6 on: Oct 08, 2017, 07:53 PM »
imagine comparing a mid rate like atlas to a low rate like ragnaclan
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Offline Lai

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #7 on: Oct 09, 2017, 06:00 AM »
What the heck!?!
Give the server admin a break.

This is too much baby sit here.
First of all, Dafuku owns the discord channel he created and can remove anyone on command!
Follow a server structure, and if you have suggestions or sensitive topics etc, do it on the right channel or maybe give a private MESSAGE, instead of boasting out in the public.


Try go to Whitehouse and give the senate your opinion and see what they will do with you.

Offline Lai

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #8 on: Nov 22, 2017, 05:01 PM »
The server population did drop :o
Doesn't the server have anti bot system like gepard etc? How can people still bot? o,o

Should really be hard of AFK players and Bots, they really kills a server.

Offline Develon

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #9 on: Nov 23, 2017, 01:16 PM »
The server population did drop :o
Doesn't the server have anti bot system like gepard etc? How can people still bot? o,o

Should really be hard of AFK players and Bots, they really kills a server.

As far as I know, it did have gepard. But allowed ahk, so it is all a matter of perseverance if one really wants to do it.
And sadly there are tools that go through it.

Offline Daifuku.

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #10 on: Nov 23, 2017, 01:28 PM »
The server population did drop :o
Doesn't the server have anti bot system like gepard etc? How can people still bot? o,o

Should really be hard of AFK players and Bots, they really kills a server.

Yes, population did drop. We kicked the vendors few days ago, android was off for a week almost and we have quite a lot of android users. On top of that I have not been there because my dog needed an urgent surgery and sometimes also server admins have to put RL before RO.

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Offline AnotherOctopus

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #11 on: Nov 23, 2017, 07:55 PM »
Server seems to be getting pooped on for all of the wrong reasons. Also, the person who posted his video in this thread (who ended up just deleting it anyway because he was embarrassed) is the same person who's making the "meme videos" on YouTube. In his latest review of Ragnaclan, he has the nerve to say "Server is getting meme'd if you search it up on youtube."

No s***, buddy. You're the one making the videos.  /no1

Offline Emcee

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #12 on: Dec 31, 2017, 06:21 AM »
Is this server still alive? Or is it full of vendors nowdays? I had high hopes for this game

Offline Daifuku.

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #13 on: Dec 31, 2017, 07:04 AM »
Is this server still alive? Or is it full of vendors nowdays? I had high hopes for this game

Server is up and running. We had 280 players on yesterday with 104 vendors. BG was running 12v12 too.
We're getting many players recently, old players are coming back slowly. 3 guilds for WoE and one just joined yesterday /lv
Despite many people bashing us on RMS, server owners and developers attacking our server we're doing fairly good.





Offline Emcee

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #14 on: Dec 31, 2017, 09:12 PM »
I logged in.. disapointment. More vendors than players. You do not take off vendors anymore. BG is bad and it doesnt start.

Offline blink32

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #15 on: Dec 31, 2017, 09:34 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Gm4t-3QgE

12v12 defined in a video. you'll get meme'd asuraing a GR prof

Offline Emcee

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #16 on: Dec 31, 2017, 10:07 PM »
Dude there aint nothing to be proud of 12 vs 12 that happened only in 1 day lmao.  Most of the time
There aint no bg nor pvp.

Offline Dratini

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #17 on: Dec 31, 2017, 10:28 PM »
it will take a whole day to even start 3vs3 bg. this server should have an active bg considering most people already geared, but tons of woe/bg players already quit. now only pvm kawai players left. woe is about 1 vs 1 guilds. 17cap with no full roster. most players from those 2 guilds only play during woe with supplies/zeny left. probably will quit if no improvement in term of active bg and no of players.
and it never reach 300. peak time around 260 270. most of the time 190 200 with 110 120 vendors.

Offline Bluebell

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #18 on: Jan 01, 2018, 12:06 AM »
Server seems to be getting pooped on for all of the wrong reasons. Also, the person who posted his video in this thread (who ended up just deleting it anyway because he was embarrassed) is the same person who's making the "meme videos" on YouTube. In his latest review of Ragnaclan, he has the nerve to say "Server is getting meme'd if you search it up on youtube."

No s***, buddy. You're the one making the videos.  /no1

FYI, those meme vids were created as an inspiration of another meme vid about Ragnaclan. So no, she's not the only one making videos and was not even the first (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii8-5PAHgOE).

I was willing to stay for PvM on this server just to buy the new HGs, but the updates got worse each time. The peak update was during Halloween and everything just went downhill from there.

Offline Oldschooler

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #19 on: Jan 01, 2018, 12:47 AM »
Server is up and running. We had 280 players on yesterday with 104 vendors. BG was running 12v12 too.
We're getting many players recently, old players are coming back slowly. 3 guilds for WoE and one just joined yesterday /lv
Despite many people bashing us on RMS, server owners and developers attacking our server we're doing fairly good.





Honestly, I just joined the server 3-4 days ago and it's been a disappointment. These screenshots you posted don't accurately represent the server. I've been on for like 13 hours a day since I joined and BG has never went past 4v4, and that's with people not even doing anything. People are just leeching the dead bg's for badges (like me) and I have to double client just to proc BG to start.

Prontera is the main town and that's where most people decide to afk and kawaii, the servers not really active from what I see.

NPCs are very very poorly placed. Hell, if someone wasn't nice enough to show me where everything was at "@go clan," I wouldn't have ever figured it out. Don't even mention the Dead Branch NPC.

For a server that has only been up for like 2 months, I shouldn't be reading "old players are coming back slowly."

Unless you're joining with a bunch of friends or a guild, it's pointless to join. With these incredibly low drop rates, you're not gonna be able to buy any end-game gears, and once you can, they're overpriced by the groups that camp the MVPs.

Take what I said as constructive criticism. This has been my first server in 1.5 years, hope my time wasn't wasted.

Offline spcd

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #20 on: Jan 01, 2018, 04:24 AM »
Honestly, I just joined the server 3-4 days ago and it's been a disappointment. These screenshots you posted don't accurately represent the server. I've been on for like 13 hours a day since I joined and BG has never went past 4v4, and that's with people not even doing anything. People are just leeching the dead bg's for badges (like me) and I have to double client just to proc BG to start.

Prontera is the main town and that's where most people decide to afk and kawaii, the servers not really active from what I see.

NPCs are very very poorly placed. Hell, if someone wasn't nice enough to show me where everything was at "@go clan," I wouldn't have ever figured it out. Don't even mention the Dead Branch NPC.

For a server that has only been up for like 2 months, I shouldn't be reading "old players are coming back slowly."

Unless you're joining with a bunch of friends or a guild, it's pointless to join. With these incredibly low drop rates, you're not gonna be able to buy any end-game gears, and once you can, they're overpriced by the groups that camp the MVPs.

Take what I said as constructive criticism. This has been my first server in 1.5 years, hope my time wasn't wasted.

why would you even try and join the server when in fact you hated daifuku's server from the start. Lul this guy


https://imgur.com/a/APdhw

Offline Daifuku.

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #21 on: Jan 01, 2018, 09:55 AM »
why would you even try and join the server when in fact you hated daifuku's server from the start. Lul this guy


https://imgur.com/a/APdhw

/no1

NPCs are very very poorly placed. Hell, if someone wasn't nice enough to show me where everything was at "@go clan," I wouldn't have ever figured it out. Don't even mention the Dead Branch NPC.

I really love how people have to badmouth a server and do not even take 2 minutes to explore it. The "@go clan" as you mentioned is literally right next to the @go 0 spawn point, all you have to do is walk 3 cells to the left to see it. The Dead Branch Room is outside of the official tool dealer house, there's been tons of servers placing NPCs before there as well. But could be that you're not updated because you haven't played in a longer time.


With these incredibly low drop rates, you're not gonna be able to buy any end-game gears, and once you can, they're overpriced by the groups that camp the MVPs.
Basically, you're saying that any server with less than 20x drop rates is not worth joining because they're overpriced by the groups that play the server.
Our drop rates float every 3 hours between 10x and 20x, currently even up to 30x since we have an exp event ongoing since the 28th.

I appreciate the feedback, but before giving feedback you should maybe take the time to actually explore the server.

Offline Oldschooler

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #22 on: Jan 01, 2018, 02:09 PM »
why would you even try and join the server when in fact you hated daifuku's server from the start. Lul this guy


https://imgur.com/a/APdhw

You have to understand that there are more than 1 person on the staff. I play because of Nihad, not Daifuku. Aside from that, a couple of my buds recommended me to it so I thought I'd give it a shot after Woon-Elaria. Seems that I was correct to assume it's a dead donkey server after 2 months.


/no1

I really love how people have to badmouth a server and do not even take 2 minutes to explore it. The "@go clan" as you mentioned is literally right next to the @go 0 spawn point, all you have to do is walk 3 cells to the left to see it. The Dead Branch Room is outside of the official tool dealer house, there's been tons of servers placing NPCs before there as well. But could be that you're not updated because you haven't played in a longer time.
Basically, you're saying that any server with less than 20x drop rates is not worth joining because they're overpriced by the groups that play the server.
Our drop rates float every 3 hours between 10x and 20x, currently even up to 30x since we have an exp event ongoing since the 28th.

I appreciate the feedback, but before giving feedback you should maybe take the time to actually explore the server.

Nobody has the f*** time to randomly walk into every portal and click every NPC. And in fact, the poorly placed NPCs and lack of information is exactly what ANOTHER player said to me as he was showing me these NPCS. Not to mention the custom "Clan" npcs where there is absolutely no information about.

And yes, you can walk 3 cells to the left to "see" the portal, but you can also walk a few cells to the right and see the other portal, which is the weapon upgrader and etc portal. Most servers have the left portal a small little room with nothing useful inside. Again, nobody walks into random portals just to "explore" the server. Once you've played RO for over a decade, you get an understanding for where things should go. Not to mention "official" placement of NPCs is pretty stupid to bring up when you have a f*** of customs on your server.

What I'm saying is that it was right to assume that you can't properly host a good server. I hope you don't think you actually ran a good server just because a few WoE guilds decided to join for a month and thus having a good population. WoE guilds jump to servers they know are going to die in a month, just because WoE.

All in all, you're just trying to leech more money from players by making the server have lower rates and extending the server life. I mean how much does this pathetic e-relationship of yours need anyways?

Offline Daifuku.

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #23 on: Jan 01, 2018, 02:42 PM »

Offline Woon

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #24 on: Jan 01, 2018, 03:18 PM »
http://forum.ragnaclan.com/index.php?/topic/927-changelog-20171228/
http://forum.ragnaclan.com/index.php?/topic/911-changelog-20171221/
http://forum.ragnaclan.com/index.php?/topic/862-changelog-20171207/
http://forum.ragnaclan.com/index.php?/topic/847-changelog-20171130/

Those updates all pretty much took place in December the last link was Nov 30th, but it counts for Dec basically. Why do I mention this? It's simply to show the effort that we took through December. I was looking through our traffic stats from the start of the month to the end of the month. We had about 400 daily visitors to the site at the start of December, now we are averaging about 700.
The server did take a major dive in November, and it took some time to clean the server up and resolve the major issues. By no means are we satisfied with the server and we are continually making it better. We are skipping an update this week, but that's because I''m doing a major source update and I want to have enough time to test everything.
We are continuously working on improving the server from both a technical side and our support side. We are getting GMs to be more active and we our selves are being more active in game as well. We are fixing bugs and improving existing features on the server. We are adding new features on top of all that. We are also getting better at promoting the server and bringing in new players.

There is no denying that there were difficulties and that we still have some, but there is also no denying that the server has been seeing a steady growth throughout the entire month.  Constructive criticism is always welcomed, there is a feed back section on our forums for that and we gladly accept it as long as it is constructive. However we have learned that trolls must be dealt with swiftly or they will have a negative impact on the server.

One of the other reasons the server stabilized and started growing again is due to our much stricter policy regarding behavior on and off the server. We will continue to enforce such a policy as it is working for us. We gladly welcome everyone to the server and those that left we welcome you back, provided you follow the rules.

Last note, due to my irl commitments I have taken a step back from the everyday happenings of the server and focus my energy on behind the scenes work. I feel this has lead to everyone making Daifu the lightning rod for their hate, and that's unfair. All of the server decision are still discussed in a group between Daifu, Shou and my self. I yell the loudest so when we are split on a decision it usually goes the way I want. As a result I feel a bit left out that I do not get any of the hate now, even though I'm probably responsible for the anger. So please, share the love a bit, don't make Daifu your lightning rod. Thanks and see you in game <3

Offline Emcee

Re: Ragnaclan
« Reply #25 on: Jan 01, 2018, 05:21 PM »
This server is going in same path as its old self.. ElariaRO which started hyped then died within 2 months. Just no point wasting time here.