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Title: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: anonymousdt on Apr 06, 2018, 05:25 AM
I don't have access to post in the hall of shame section so I posted it here.

What happened is the owner of the server cgRO (https://www.cgamershub.com (https://www.cgamershub.com)), Parachute, got caught command leveling characters and the guild, ICHIBAN, that he command leveled characters for is none other than his own. He tried to say he was giving out 200 miracle meds to guilds as part of a NEW guild package that he hasn't even announced yet and that he gave that guild package to ICHIBAN. However, that does not explain the discrepancy of the experience as shown in the attachment. The players in the screenshot have the same exact number of experience in the hundred thousands and sometimes the millions which are uneven which is impossible because of the way parties gain exp and that miracle medicines only give an EVEN amount of exp. Look at the highlighted in the attachment.

As for veteran players, you know that it is impossible to have the same amount of exp when you level up because each player will get a different amount of exp overtime even if you stayed in the same party as  them from level 1. Now, miracle medicines only give 1 level MAX per use and the exp does NOT overlap if you level up. As we all know, the amount of exp it takes to reach what is shown in the screenshot is more than what 200 miracle meds can produce in this server. Miracle medicines in this server at the time gave 4m base exp and 2m job exp. That means, they would have had to gained 400m+ exp on their own. Even if they did all level in the same party, it does not matter because you cannot have that same amount of exp and discrepancies in the millions and have the same in the thousands because that's simply how gaining exp in RO works. You can try making a party with a character and leveling for 1 hour and you will see there will be a difference between the 2 characters.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: anonymousdthaha on Apr 06, 2018, 05:42 AM
You have to be logged in to see the screenshots.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 06:07 AM
Proof that the images are not photoshopped. Parachute deleted the command-leveled characters. Please see the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOGygotVXA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOGygotVXA&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 06, 2018, 06:21 AM
Hi, Playtime player, don't be anonymous. /omg

I believe those screenshots are invalid because miracle medicine is an in-game item included in the guild package meant to attract more WoE guilds to join the server. Also, all the chars highlighted in the screenshot were deleted a loooong time ago in response to people getting mad and new chars have been created and leeched without miracle medicines. If you've noticed, ICHIBAN has skipped many WoEs because they are not yet prepared.

"Parachute, got caught command leveling characters and the guild" -- miracle medicine is an item in-game as part of a guild package to level chars, no intervention necessary from any GM. The experience gained on the screenshot seems like a bug to me as the numbers fluctuate from all the characters on the list. Will wait for official response from Parachute as my knowledge on the server itself is very limited ~

If the MM does give 4M exp as u say, and the exp u gained from it would be doubled (as seen on SS#2), that would be 8m per MM. 8M * 200pcs of MM = 1.6B and split this between 6 chars would give u 266M exp each, not including any exp gained if battle manuals were used.

 /ok
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 06:26 AM
Miracle medicine does not explain the exp discrepancy as stated in the original post. It's impossible to have the same amount of exp in the thousands but different in the millions. And if there was a problem with the exp system, then why is it that only that guild is affected? What happened to everyone else? Nice defense.

No matter how you try to defend this. There is no way getting out of it as the screenshots and video show, there is no way to obtain that exp without gm command. Anyone can try leveling as a group on a server and will see that they will all end up with completely different amounts of exp.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 06, 2018, 06:31 AM
and Hoe Cage at the bottom of the list is...? also ICHIBAN?

edit: probably Hoe Cage is from ichiban as well because this is the only guild got the modified miracle medicine, apparently.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 06:36 AM
That's irrelevant if he is or he is not. Please stick to the topic. Don't try to change it :) I already stated for people to test it themselves :). Veteran RO players won't even need to test it. They already know.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Dratini on Apr 06, 2018, 06:37 AM
haha please, he give that guild miracle medicine to speed leveling to make sure they can woe in a week. there is no command leveling, lol.
and opposing guild complain about this and all those chars are removed and miracle medicine given through guild pack was given for all guilds in same amount. and they have to level their chars as other guilds.
this issue was resolved.
i hate parachute for a slow update and few unresolved issue, but please he done okay so far and hopefully his server can stay for long time.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 06:39 AM
BTW Ignore all defenses because they're all lies probably from chknfootguild or the GM Staff. The only way to really know is to test it yourself. Go level for 1 hour and you will see there is a difference in the exp for each character while leveling as a group.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 06, 2018, 06:40 AM
That's irrelevant if he is or he is not. Please stick to the topic. Don't try to change it :) I already stated for people to test it themselves :). Veteran RO players won't even need to test it. They already know.

Player with no guild and has outrageous exp is not relevant okay /ok
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 06:45 AM
I also stated "Miracle medicines in this server at the time gave 4m base exp and 2m job exp.". Note I said "At the time". That's after it was doubled so the max base exp is 800m from the 200 meds but since miracle meds does not overlap in levels, you don't even get the full 800m exp. I'm going to stop responding and let people test it themselves!

Parachute should just admit it else he'll just make himself look worse.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Gey on Apr 06, 2018, 06:48 AM
Who are u? angelwing1, unknown player? Do u even play woe? Feelsbad for you
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Lemonade on Apr 06, 2018, 06:58 AM
Hello, i'm Lemon in game, and i've been playing this server from the start and i can tell you that Ichiban's guild thing was because of guild's miracle medicine + normal miracle medicine, after we talked with Parachute he reverted this.
I don't find that relevant, so this topic is stupid.
Also as a veteran player and a multi-clienting i know that u can have the EXACT same amount of exp on all characters if u want.
Once i levelled my novice party from 0 to 99 and all 6 novices had the EXACT same exp, the exp distribution is even.

Because of what you said it's enough for me to know that u are:
a) stupid
b) a 12 years old child that doesn't know how to divide a number
c) an attention whore.

Good luck kiddo
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 07:02 AM
The funny thing is they don't have the same exact exp. They have different exp in the millions but the same in the thousands. If what you say is true which is not as people that test this will find out, then the characters are still gm command leveled.

Friendly Reminder: Test this yourself and you will find the truth. Ignore the defenses are they're all lies.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Lemonade on Apr 06, 2018, 07:22 AM
Best logic: "i'm right, you are wrong because i'm right".
This guild pack was announced, the woe players knew about this and that's why we knew what to say when this happened. That's why this was fixed in less than 1 day.
This happened like 2 weeks ago if i'm not wrong, and you decide to show up today and cry about something that was a mistake and now is fixed?
Also it seems i'm the only one saying who i am in-game. Maybe because i have nothing to hide?
Again, good luck kid. Hope you are smarter the next time.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 06, 2018, 08:18 AM
Aight let's do this.

This entire scenario happened a week before our WOE SE release. When i posted this ad banner everywhere:

https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f65c1cea967beef95affe1714aeaafb708e2dc5d.png (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f65c1cea967beef95affe1714aeaafb708e2dc5d.png)

During my guild advertising stints, specifically during that week, I started contacting guilds. I was talking to 4~7 guild leaders to join our WOE scene on server. After hearing that most guild leaders request that they would appreciate an improvement with our Guild Package System especially in terms of character levels, as an advertiser trying to win the "client", I then decided that I would instantly improve the guild package system by adding more Miracle Medicine per guild member box while increasing the EXP obtained by those miracle medicines.

Here's when i did the change (btw, guild miracle medicine is a custom cgro item for guild package)
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/2X/1/1d031b5878d2bbe26621184336153f23e7d0ccdc_1_690x286.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/optimized/2X/1/1d031b5878d2bbe26621184336153f23e7d0ccdc_1_690x286.JPG)

However, the claim here is that I used @commands to level up their characters. That's Incorrect. Item creation? That is also incorrect. Why would i need to do that if the plan to increase miracle meds was enough? If i admit mistake here, 1. it was by not talking to current guild leaders in our server about the instant decision as I was simply trying to win new guilds to join on server, spur of the moment. 2. i did not fully test the exp obtained from miracle medicine if the those had been used by a Lvl60+ trans class already (not by pre-trans or not by lvl1 novice) and 3. 200pcs miracle improvement was too much considering the extra exp boost i added.

After talking to the current guild leaders of the server, I instantly reverted this change to the following (and also the up-to-date script of it):

// Guild Miracle Medicine (Reduced the exp gained)
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/9/91533f66c5eb724c303225fc38bd8ae8cc29eec4.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/9/91533f66c5eb724c303225fc38bd8ae8cc29eec4.JPG)

// Guild Miracle Medicine Quantity per Box (from 200 -> 50pcs)
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/6/64fb6f7c439024dd828ea3f2531f518992f48487.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/6/64fb6f7c439024dd828ea3f2531f518992f48487.JPG)

There were 3 other people involved in this group chat. I wont disclose any names since I still value their privacy. but here's one of my response to the conversation:

https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/e/e743bd9024e4045f6e204d5d3d6aa40a2049abf6.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/e/e743bd9024e4045f6e204d5d3d6aa40a2049abf6.JPG)

Note: it 200 miracle medicine had been reduced to 50pcs.

Based on that response, I admitted to both leaders my mistake and that I would correct it instantly by banning the accounts of ICHIBAN characters that used the miracle medicines, I also told ichiban's leader that I cannot give another guild pack to them and that they need to manually level up their characters. That was 3 weeks ago, zero participation in WOE as well until probably this coming weekend.

At the same time, just like my response in the image provided above, awkward to quote myself but, "I can potentially recruit about 7 guilds to join the server in the next 2 weeks, however your voices, the loyal and dedicated players of CGRO weighs higher than those 7 new guilds." Meaning, I stopped the guild recruitment for the past 3 weeks and focused to the current guilds on server.

Another thing mentioned is that I did not announce it when I was trying to recruit guilds on server. But not in any way i kept it hidden. I had been editing the Guild Package thread in forum. Our forum is WIKI-based and it stores the history of each edit, regardless if you edited it countless times. Meaning, this isn't biased if this is a feature aiming to accommodate ALL NEW GUILDS not specifically to ICHIBAN guild alone.

First Edit:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/2/26345e86fe63cdd2e448a2af9d3d8a73a999b168.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/2/26345e86fe63cdd2e448a2af9d3d8a73a999b168.JPG)

Second Edit:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f41e9189b8012fc652393b29b36a21fe47587d00.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f41e9189b8012fc652393b29b36a21fe47587d00.JPG)

3rd Edit:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/3/3409045920d875100f3dcd830cd559b4d320713e.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/3/3409045920d875100f3dcd830cd559b4d320713e.JPG)

4th and Final Edit:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/c/c59a74dc637409bafbf9823216d00ac795d539d3.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/c/c59a74dc637409bafbf9823216d00ac795d539d3.JPG)

Another claim mentioned was some kinda biased or special treatment to ICHIBAN Guild. Not to mention, including Chknfoot's guild founder in the post title. So, some of chknfoot members decided to create their own guild to participate WOE in the server. Does that automatically mean I am biased to them? Nope.

In any way, I never even logged in Chknfoot's discord channel after the CGRO went live just to avoid anything like this to happen in the future (lmao it still happened). Go ahead and feel free to ask some chkns, they even hated me due to my own amateur admin mistakes in my first owned server. Lmao I'm like "after all this server sht. damn, now im too ashamed to face them. lmao" Kidding aside, what im trying to say is that they are veteran players too and if an admin in general makes stupid mistakes, they will also be the first one to point it out. Your thread here in RMS is understandable, but if you wanted full details I can provide it all and explained what really happened. You have all the right to post here in RMS, it's normal, we good. Dont worry, I will personally +1 or approve any thread to put me in HALL OF SHAME if i wholeheartedly think i should be there.

// Side Note:
<snip>

[Mod edit: This is not the place to sneak in an advertisement]
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 06, 2018, 08:20 AM
Proof that the images are not photoshopped. Parachute deleted the command-leveled characters. Please see the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOGygotVXA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPOGygotVXA&feature=youtu.be)

Explanation to that, my friend, was added to my first post. All those accounts had been banned, meaning it will also not show in Character Rankings.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 11:44 AM
As you see Parachute never explained how you can have that kind of EXP spread between characters in 1 guild. In his post, he never went into detail regarding it. Like I mentioned before, test it yourselves and you know he's lying.

It's really bad you made a huge post claiming you didn't do it now because you will now have to explain how people can get the same amount of experience in the thousands place but have different amounts of experience in the millions place. That itself is impossible even with miracle medicines.

People can go test to level for 1 hour in a party and they will see each one will have completely different amounts of exp at the end of the experiment.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 06, 2018, 02:08 PM
Pity. This will be my last post on this thread.

Disclaimer: this is not a current feature of CGRO. The purpose of this video is merely an explanation why the Guild Package System had been reverted instantly. No further damage has been done as it was just a character level and those accounts had already been banned within 24 Hours.

However, this was supposedly the "improved" guild package in CGRO aiming to recruit more WOE SE guilds in the server, not until i messed up and making the pack too OP. As far as I remember, I took the night off after handing out the guild starter package (an actual item in CGRO), the next day I received PMs how OP it was and needed to be reverted and fix ASAP.

Luckily though, this user error is easy to fix as it involves characters of one guild and item database. The fix was as easy as reverting and redoing the guild package system while banning all the accounts involved. Within 24 Hours, everything is back to normal. It was an honest mistake and I provided fix ASAP at that given time.

Now, I'm not sure what were the initial levels of their characters when they used miracle medicines. They may have used it after rebirth, or they may had combined. Say Lvl90+ Pre-Trans then Lvl XX Trans onwards. There is no way for me to tell how they used it. The point is, basic math, the lower the level they started using these meds (ie. Lvl 1 ~ 20) or the closer the values of their exp at the same level, the more identical their exp value becomes at level 98.

However, the claim posted by the user here in RMS says that I abused my Admin power by using @commands to level a full guild's characters. Again, Incorrect. The user claims to let you "test it yourself" by providing an unreliable/inaccurate data to the public. Meaning, he doesn't really know the full details before even submitting a thread here. You could've posted this issue in the server forums for me to clarify the issue in every detail, but nope. It seems like he thinks that he has some ace on his sleeve against me and suddenly shows up here in RMS. Yes and again, this issue had been resolved instantly. There was no such abuses, but how can I convince this dude if he fully believes I abused my power? or if he really wanna bring me and my server down? The real question here is, why show up now? Why you suddenly felt the need to attack me and the server NOW if you "think" you have enough evidence against me 3weeks ago (even recording the character rankings 3 weeks ago and uploading it to youtube). You could've posted these here earlier, but my response will still be the same.

Here's the most accurate example I can provide. Again, this is not a feature of CGRO, but merely a video explanation why I had to revert the update -- Debunking the claim of me using @commands to increase a guild's character level.

Watch Video Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-znGuULqew4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-znGuULqew4)

"The man who writes for himself only, his own sole reader and sole judge, can never satisfy himself; for, knowing both terms, the ideal and its embodiment, he also knows the gulf between them." -by i forgot who said this but you can <snip>
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 08:19 PM
It's funny. Everything Parachute states in his replies does not answer the problem at hand. He is clearly avoiding the topic and can only give a vague response. He states "the closer the values of their exp at the same level, the more identical their exp value becomes at level 98". But the thing is, they didn't have closer values, they had freaken identical values in the thousands place but different in the millions. That itself is an impossibility because 200 medicines does not give the exact experience required to get the amount stated in the screenshots of the original post. Miracle medicines only give EVEN numbers of exp.

Let me give a more detailed view of things. Data from below is taken from the first screenshot of the original post.

All characters are from ICHIBAN guild aka chknfoot

1. Character "Junai"                 | Base level 98 | Base EXP 415,633,461 | Job EXP 78,934,916
2. Character "Niji"                    | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 96,934,916
3. Character "Chikarra"             | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 86,934,916
4. Character "snowman"           | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 84,934,916
5. Character "High On Shrooms | Base level 98 | Base EXP 399,633,461 | Job EXP 42,434,072

As you see the five characters have similarities in their exp number in the hundred thousands but have discrepancies in the millions. If you go level as a party and you guys kill monsters for 1 hour without anyone dying or having to go back, you will all have different amounts of exp at the end of the hour. Miracle medicines give an EVEN amount of exp and with only 200 miracle medicines provide, that only gives a maxium amount of 800m exp and in that case since miracle medicine do not over lap in levels, millions of exp would have been lost. That means they would of not received the full 800m experience value that the 200 miracle medicines receive unless they did some leveling.


Data # 2 Experience table taken directly from Wikipedia


Please see the link or google it yourself to find the total amount of experience required to get to lvl 98 plus 400m exp. https://irowiki.org/classic/Base_EXP_Chart

If they did some leveling then their experience points would not match up because that is the TOTAL exp they have obtained. Another thing is their base EXP at that level EXCEEDS what's needed to get to lvl 99 as a transcendant class. That itself shows it is GM commanded. Please take a look at the experience table from the wiki and look at how much experience it takes to get from lvl 98 to 99 then compare it to how much EXP the characters have in the screenshot & video. Also, since it requires just by itself, "869,282,549" base exp to get to lvl 98, the 200 miracle medicines would not have been ANYWHERE NEAR enough alone to reach that level or experience.

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As you guys notice, Parachute is not giving a CLEAR answer for any of these FACTS. He is lying and it's actually sad that a longstanding Guild lies publicly.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 06, 2018, 10:20 PM
SMH. As I've said in my post earlier, this dude is posted here in RMS without even knowing the full details of the issue and full specs of the server.

Miracle Medicine does indeed give even number before you level up and if and only if you started using that item at exactly 0% EXP. Anything more than that, it sums up to the next level and so on. And yes, I verified this again in local server just to be sure.

CGRO is a 30x30x10x HYBRID server. Although it is 80% Pre-Renewal in terms of conf/specs, there are renewal and revo-classic added it it. Meaning, EXP Table has also been updated to follows Hybrid Setting (% addition only as current official revo-classic servers increased theirs too much, no trans classes yet, and WarpPortal/EXE has not disclosed their full exp tables yet). Again, you are doing calculations using inaccurate data over and over again.

Here's the a screenie that we are a Hybrid Server (Pre-Renewal, Renewal + Revo-Classic):
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/6/6b877b7645159b2563c29860daf59ee8d165d73e.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/6/6b877b7645159b2563c29860daf59ee8d165d73e.JPG)

Here's the commit and date using Hybrid/Semi-Revoclassic setting:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/8f22e684dfa087ccafea7793e8f3619eb25d776a.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/8f22e684dfa087ccafea7793e8f3619eb25d776a.JPG)

You sir are basing your accusations with what you think is right, I understand that. However, I will never run out of words to say back as, in reality, I never used any commands to level those characters up. I never avoid topics you mentioned, just that you do not seem to see the actual picture.

In fact, now that I remember, even using @blvl or @jlvl, it will not give you base/job exps at all. Lmao You be stuck at 0%. You see where this is going? That's the reason why miracle meds. is the only logical way why those banned characters reached that much exp in Character Ranking as you claim it to be. However, those exp values were not just for them, but pretty much everyone else.

For example, this image is taken today (REAL-TIME). There are 2 Level 98 characters from Resilience Guild. Does that mean I also cheated their exps? Lmao
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/87a8bc7bbc2bfc32027061a3490aaefaa55df67d.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/87a8bc7bbc2bfc32027061a3490aaefaa55df67d.JPG)

I could even let a few people access my test server and setup guild package system before the fix. But why would I even go that far and waste more time just to prove a point? This is a server issue and that it had been resolved instantly without further or long term damage. I said previously that that was my last reply to this thread, i guess this is gonna be it. Lmao I got nothing else to say other than you can Join CGRO, a 30x30x10x Hybrid Server. Register  here: https://www.cgamershub.com/register (https://www.cgamershub.com/register)
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 06, 2018, 10:33 PM
Nice try again.

Parachute stated
"For example, this image is taken today (REAL-TIME). There are 2 Level 98 characters from Resilience Guild. Does that mean I also cheated their exps? Lmao
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/8/87a8bc7bbc2bfc32027061a3490aaefaa55df67d.JPG".
My reply. The exp values in that screenshot do not match like the screenshots and video in the original post. Parachute is literally making a fool of himself. Stop the lying man. Keep it real.

Answer this.

1. How is the exp the same for the characters in the millions but different in the hundred thousands. Miracle medicines give an even amount of exp. They gave an even 4million base exp per use. There is no way for a group have the identical amount of exp in the thousands and different in the millions as shown in the screenshot even if they level up together. As I have told many times to let people test it themselves.

2. You're stating the exp tables are different to try to prove your case but TRANS classes didn't even release during this event. Therefore exp tables were not released yet. The only exp table used was the one I had linked and even if you want to argue your way out of this by saying you customized it then refer to #1 because you will never be able to answer that. Produce the scenario and give the math that can produce that outcome because it's impossible.


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PS

What happened to not answering anymore? Hahaha.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 07, 2018, 12:17 AM
I provided that screen to prove the point that EXP Table is customized to match our Hybrid Server setting as advertised. Meaning, i gave that image to prove that the EXPs per character can reach that much, regardless you use miracle medicine or not. However, there's no way that those two users will have a similar exp not unless they obtained the guild package (the one that has been reverted 3weeks ago) and they both used it with the same level.

I provided video in my earliest post explaining that when miracle medicine are used, say by a Level 1 Novice, Lvl5 Novice @30% or even a Level 12 Magician @45%, you along with other characters will have identical or the same exp. Have you even checked the information about the guild package system in our forums? Guild Package Contains 1x Guild Leader Box and 27x Guild Member Boxes. Meaning 28 characters obtain equal amount of miracle medicine obtained from the Guild Starter Package. That was the fix i made within 24 hours, to reduce the miracle medicine obtained from guild member box and banned those players who taken advantage of that Pack. or you are telling me now that you ranted here in RMS without even knowing the server features, again??? Alright I'll save you the hassle, go ahead and read the Guild Package System here: https://forum.cgamershub.com/t/cgro-guild-package-system/2782 (https://forum.cgamershub.com/t/cgro-guild-package-system/2782) (Btw, if anybody ready this is a leader of a WOE SE-Oriented guild, feel free to contact us!)

Guild Starter Package:
https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f75a055532a3942cfe83fbdd6548b278934da1cc.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/f/f75a055532a3942cfe83fbdd6548b278934da1cc.JPG)

1. I'm not sure if you had been reading my replies, if you understand git commits including the date, reading the graphics provided, reading the scripts from the graphics provided, read the script from the video provided, or even watched the video i uploaded at all. Coz you seem keep mentioning inaccurate values in all your responses and you don't even realize it. Lmao But, I will let you figure that one out. You kept saying "let people test it," but test what? What other server edit must be done before testing it out? Do you even provide specifics? Coz as far as I know you are not even knowledgeable to our server features. :)

There is no way for a group have the identical amount of exp in the thousands and different in the millions as shown in the screenshot even if they level up together.

Read. :)

2. SMH. I sent graphics (with git commit date) that indicating EXP Table had been customized to match our server "Hybrid Settings" not the one that you can google or find in iROWIKI and say "hey this is the one that you got! I will use iRO WIKI's numbers coz i think this was the one Parachute used in CGRO.."


PS: Funny. "Parachute is literally making a fool of himself" - said by someone hiding his real identity under a fresh RMS account. And oh, I assume that's why you did not post this in our server forum as well? So nobody can track who you are under a disguised name? So you can rant freely or however you want here regardless if your claim will be proved invalid, It's OK right? Since literally, nobody will ever know that you were actually the one making a fool of yourself other than you.

PPS: The purpose why i uploaded a video in earlier post was to show everyone my mistake in the Guild Starter Package list, it was too OP than initially intended. I fixed that issue instantly with no long-term damage to the server. Like i said, this user felt he has an ace on his sleeves to ruin me and my server but waited all this time to post it here in RMS if you could've done this earlier. Can't help to think who this user is and what is his real motif. This story may take longer than expected, so if you get bored you can <snip>
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 07, 2018, 12:22 AM
I watched the vid that you posted and it didn't prove anything other than you can get max lvl 97 even when you doubled the exp given to 8m when it was only 4m at the time you handed it out to ICHIBAN guild. That case you still can't get the exp numbers in the screenshot or video from the original post.

Now you still are ignoring the #1.

1. How is the exp the same for the characters in the millions but different in the hundred thousands. Miracle medicines give an even amount of exp. They gave an even 4million base exp per use. There is no way for a group have the identical amount of exp in the thousands and different in the millions as shown in the screenshot even if they level up together. As I have told many times to let people test it themselves.

You're just posting huge paragraphs of nonsense now.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Emcee on Apr 07, 2018, 12:31 AM
This is disgusting act. It's proven that Parachute abused, ofcourse he will. He is the leader of that Guild which is playing on his server CGRO. This is the reason why I never played CGRO, it's corrupted. We all know Parachute is a massive tool abuser in other servers and why wouldn't he simply use command to help out his guild. We all know he plays WOE with his GUILD on HIS OWN SERVER. Come on man, just tell the truth. Nothing shameful about it.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 07, 2018, 02:01 AM
Funny you still use that "4M" value. Again and again. you really dont get it.

Based on the video, 200pcs miracle medicine had been used by a Lvl1 High Novice. the old "OP" guild package system before the FIX instantly gave the character levels up to LVL97 Professor. Since based on the vid i provided, the novice is 0% EXP at level 1. So the value should end exactly on even number. it is 8M BASE EXP and 4M JOB EXP given before the fix, just so you know. Now, I do not know what combinations they used to reach Lvl 98 with that exp. If they used some meds during pre-trans or the rest during trans.

And again, this Guild Package System supposedly improvement was meant for all NEW GUILDS, not just for 1 single guild. Just because I handed out the package to ICHIBAN first and backed out from 2 other guilds for their Guild Starter Packages, I guess for some it means i'm being biased. However, as an admin of the server, for me it's simply to avoid further damage before I revert the update.

I knew issues like this is bound to happen in the future, being a founder of an RO Guild and advertising to the public that yes I am indeed. However, the last time I was active in WOE scene was way back in OnceRO and tried to make a comeback as a guild leader (failed attempt) in ElariaWoon and official ROPH. You can think however you want, but I never WOE on my own server nor did any special treatment to the chkns. Like I said in earlier post, most of them even hated me for my server features and mistakes here in CGRO. Ask them and ask all the non-chknfoot (guest players) if I they seen me active in WOE or in RO gaming for the past 2-3 years.

Massive Tool Abuser? Trust me, I even contacted a few veteran players I know in the past to help me create autopots for the server before launch date. I then realized that they started hating me just because they played against Chknfoot in other servers where i did not participate, but hey im the guild founder after all. lmao Also, I do not log in Discord at all just to avoid accusations like this. All im stating here are based on actual facts not just assumptions or false/misleading information. What else, Corrupt? If I may go to my veteran mindset, one of the easiest way to determine if an RO admin is corrupt or not is if the server has a GR card already during the first 2 months or if most MVPs are enabled in WOE maps. Which is not the case in CGRO, and currently there's no mvp cards in the server at all other than the Drake card that somebody posted in our forums.

By saying all that, I also guarantee that I never WOE in my own server. During WOE Events, I either stream the WOE live or record the full gameplay locally (from the beginning of woe to the end). I had been actively broadcasting countdowns and news during War of Emperium hours. Sometimes, too much esp. if it's 1 minute left before it ends. Then, after it's over, I am there to recall all participating guilds since we have a "Post-WOE Rewards" and "WOE SE Winner Box" manually handed out to all guilds.

https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/d/db6c6bc67df046e4c19533083e6b6f78173bb523.JPG (https://forumcgamershub-com-s3.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/d/db6c6bc67df046e4c19533083e6b6f78173bb523.JPG)

With that much admin activity during WOE hours, how could I possibly join and play WOE? :)

[FINAL] I will no longer respond to this thread. This server issue had been resolved internally ASAP within 24hours (3weeks ago). It wasn't an abuse, but an undesirable boost of miracle medicine in our Guild Package System. Yes, I did in fact let other people test the Guild Starter Package in-game. That's how I verified this and had to instantly revert this update while banning the accounts involved.

This is my first owned server and I now fully understand that in this industry, nobody gives a crap with all your efforts for the server.  You cannot stop your haters from attacking you. By saying that, I do apologize to all RO Admins whose servers i played in the past, I was probably too toxic with yall at that time too. Lmao Anyway, I will trust the discretion of the moderators here in RMS. Cheers!

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Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 07, 2018, 02:11 AM
Lol Parachute can't give a resolution to my detailed post. Just admit it man.

Parachute's answer is "the old OP guild package system before the FIX instantly gave the character levels up to LVL97 Professor." & "Now, I do not know what combinations they used to reach Lvl 98 with that exp".

The combination is called GM Command Leveled Characters lmao. Your vid proves that the miracle medicines cannot produce the exp that was shown in the original post EVEN if the exp was at 8m instead of 4m. It's even worse that he's lying about it and he already gave his answer that he doesn't know as shown in the reply above. This is clear GM Abuse. Parachute is not able to give a CLEAR answer. He wrote about 4 essays trying to BS his defense and his end result statement is "I do not know". If this wasn't GM abuse, why couldn't he end it in 1 reply? There should be an easy answer for it IF it wasn't GM abuse but the only answer is Parachute abused his powers to command level his own guild's characters.

That being said, I ALSO will trust the discretion of the moderators here in RMS. And Finally....

#ParachuteForHallOfShame

Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Emcee on Apr 07, 2018, 08:49 PM
You can say whatever you want to say but you surely is corrupted. We all know how you acted in other servers, you will do anything to give your guild an advantage in anyway. You did it here. You leveled your friends. It's obvious, you intentionally leveled up your friends and that is a serious corruption. Don't even get me started with you playing WOE. YOU DO PLAY WOE IN YOUR OWN SERVER. YOU LEVEL UP YOUR OWN GUILD. THAT EXP IS FROM #BLVL PARACHUTEFRIEND 99 #JLVL PARACHUTEFRIEND 99.

ADMIT IT PARACHUTE. YOU ARE CORRUPT AND YOU DESERVE TO BE IN THE HALL OF SHAME FOR THIS.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Nuclear on Apr 08, 2018, 07:42 AM
Hello. I'm currently helping Ichiban organize their guild for CGRO WoE SE.

We played our first woe yesterday without 99/70 chars, without valk shields on all characters, without proper supplies. Our bragi was 130 INT, DD hwiz are using staffs of piercing because we can't afford anything better...yet. We also had to play on a PVM guild because we didn't have enough guild levels on Ichiban. We are also using the free foods that come with the pre-WoE boxes that every guild gets. These clowns who are complaining about Parachute being corrupt and biased towards us don't know s*** about the server and can't tell their butt from their face. (goddamn censors)

Instead of s*** on CGRO, come and play there and see what is actually happening. Hell, NSA has no problem with us, not sure why you do. CGRO has multiple problems with mechanics, LGP, crashes etc., but afaik, there's no corruption. This overly dramatic guy needs to relax.

This is disgusting act. It's proven that Parachute abused, ofcourse he will. He is the leader of that Guild which is playing on his server CGRO. This is the reason why I never played CGRO, it's corrupted. We all know Parachute is a massive tool abuser in other servers and why wouldn't he simply use command to help out his guild. We all know he plays WOE with his GUILD on HIS OWN SERVER. Come on man, just tell the truth. Nothing shameful about it.

Man, do you even read what you type? Or are you just going to vomit shock and awe statements?

I think it's time everyone just moves on lol. Parachute, stop wasting time here and fix the damn crashes during WoE. Also, if this guy really is from Playtime as someone stated, then please stop using arrow shower stalkers, it's f*** embarrassing.

@edit: Parachute is not in the guild.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 09, 2018, 11:52 PM
The only posts in this thread that contains material regarding the primary topic other than the OPs are mine and Parachute's. Everyone elses replies are irrelevant.

Based on the video, 200pcs miracle medicine had been used by a Lvl1 High Novice. the old "OP" guild package system before the FIX instantly gave the character levels up to LVL97 Professor. Since based on the vid i provided, the novice is 0% EXP at level 1. So the value should end exactly on even number. it is 8M BASE EXP and 4M JOB EXP given before the fix, just so you know. Now, I do not know what combinations they used to reach Lvl 98 with that exp. If they used some meds during pre-trans or the rest during trans.

After all is said and done this is Parachute's final reply regarding how a guild was able to obtain that kind of exp when it is impossible to reach in a legit way without the use of gm commands is "I do not know". Even if the miracle meds were at 8m base exp, his video only showed that you can get maximum level 97 from it and it does not relate to the exp numbers from the argument at all so that's irrelevant.

The below was what was being presented to prove that Parachute was abusing his GM powers. All data is taken using the screenshots and video from the original post of the thread.

Let me give a more detailed view of things. Data from below is taken from the first screenshot of the original post.

All characters are from ICHIBAN guild aka chknfoot

1. Character "Junai"                 | Base level 98 | Base EXP 415,633,461 | Job EXP 78,934,916
2. Character "Niji"                    | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 96,934,916
3. Character "Chikarra"             | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 86,934,916
4. Character "snowman"           | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 84,934,916
5. Character "High On Shrooms | Base level 98 | Base EXP 399,633,461 | Job EXP 42,434,072

As you see the five characters have similarities in their exp number in the hundred thousands but have discrepancies in the millions. If you go level as a party and you guys kill monsters for 1 hour without anyone dying or having to go back, you will all have different amounts of exp at the end of the hour. Miracle medicines give an EVEN amount of exp and with only 200 miracle medicines provide, that only gives a maxium amount of 800m exp and in that case since miracle medicine do not over lap in levels, millions of exp would have been lost. That means they would of not received the full 800m experience value that the 200 miracle medicines receive unless they did some leveling.


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When all is said and done, Parachute's final reply is and I quote
Now, I do not know what combinations they used to reach Lvl 98 with that exp.

That is more than enough proof he abused his powers as a GM and owner of the server.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: veear on Apr 10, 2018, 05:11 AM
ya'll talking about this s*** when parachute forgot about the server raffle  /heh
I WANT MY STEAM CARDS PARACHUTE
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Emcee on Apr 10, 2018, 06:09 AM
Parachute is a certified HALL OF SHAMER. HE LEVELED UP HIS GUILD MATES AND NOW HIS GUILD MATES ARE TRYING TO DEFEND HIM HERE. STOP IT. JUST PUT THIS MAN IN HALL OF SHAME. THE OTHER GUY PROVED THAT HE LEVELED UP HIS OWN GUILD MEMBERS WITH SOLID PROOF. JUST TAKE THIS MAN TO HALL OF SHAME AND NEVER PLAY CGRO OR ANY OF PARACHUTE SERVER EVER AGAIN.

RIP CGRO AND PARACHUTE.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 10, 2018, 06:43 PM
Proofs simply does not look reliable for me. Why?

1) There are many mobs that have millions of exp and could have made the difference (not sure which mobs were available when this incident happened, though) and exp distribution among party members is something to consider as well.
2) You do "get" the exp even though you are capped at gaining one level per kill.
3) It's possible levelling/quests was done before using miracle medicine, which explains the same exp in thousands. The miracle medicine used in varying amounts will then explain the difference of exp in the millions (let's not forget that the WoE chars are not limited to using gpack miracle medicines).

I'm not saying these are the things that happened. However, everything that's been said by OP is speculation. I highly doubt Parachute would be stupid enough to make a mistake that would incriminate himself or ICHIBAN members (this is yet another speculation -- but what the hell, I'm joining the quo). Unless OP or other party has actual logs of Parachute giving exp to ICHIBAN, the current proofs can easily be explained if someone bothered to do it. There are so many variables to consider (such as ROTD, battle manual used, amt of players in pt, exp of mobs, what mob was killed, etc). Don't think even a court of justice would want to deal with these maths. Alternately, you can use these variables to prove that it is indeed impossible to get same exp in thousands but same in millions.

Also, as Parachute has mentioned, GM command to give levels to characters does not give any experience so how do you explain these characters getting experience from GM command?

If I'm not mistaken, the accusation is that Parachute used a GM command to level chars and this predicament is "strengthened" by the fact that Parachute does not know (or would not disclose) how ICHIBAN members leveled their chars. Sure, blame him (or his other staff) for not wanting to figure out how ppl in his server get his exp and instead focus on server updates and maintenance.

If Parachute did indeed do what you said, backed up by concrete/unquestionable proof/s, well that's just disappointing and he should definitely be put on hall of shame. But as of now, almost all players from the server acknowledge that the exp was because of the upgraded guild pack which was why it was reverted immediately.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 10, 2018, 11:01 PM
Proofs simply does not look reliable for me. Why?

1) There are many mobs that have millions of exp and could have made the difference (not sure which mobs were available when this incident happened, though) and exp distribution among party members is something to consider as well.
2) You do "get" the exp even though you are capped at gaining one level per kill.
3) It's possible levelling/quests was done before using miracle medicine, which explains the same exp in thousands. The miracle medicine used in varying amounts will then explain the difference of exp in the millions (let's not forget that the WoE chars are not limited to using gpack miracle medicines).

Bluebell is an ICHIBAN member btw. He states and I quote " It's possible levelling/quests was done before using miracle medicine, which explains the same exp in thousands.". That is what makes the whole scenario impossible! Lol. I have stated many times that if you go leveling as a group for 1 hour then you will all end up with a different number of exp. Stop trying to defend with no actual data.

You stated

If I'm not mistaken, the accusation is that Parachute used a GM command to level chars and this predicament is "strengthened" by the fact that Parachute does not know

It is strengthened by the screenshots and video posted. It is not possible to achieve those exp combination as stated in my detailed post.

Another thing is

Also, as Parachute has mentioned, GM command to give levels to characters does not give any experience so how do you explain these characters getting experience from GM command?

That's a lie. Exp command works. How tf is it not going to work. Lol stop. Don't even try.

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TLDR; this guy is an ICHIBAN member that is trying to defend Parachute by ignoring the information posted in this thread and trying to state that the accusation was based off of theory which it isn't. It is shown and proven by parachute's own video you cannot achieve that exp number using miracle medicines alone. Now if you go level for 1 hour, you will see everyone in the party will have different exp numbers. Anyways read my detailed post if you want to see the truth. Also, if you look at the actual server's forums, it is only filled with complaints about Parachute. The server shows 400+ online but if you actually look at the main town and go to the other towns and other places, you will notice not even 40 ppl on. It's all autotrade vendors or afk multiclients. People already quit because of this incident.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Yuzo on Apr 11, 2018, 03:15 AM
you dont know what you talking about you just got ban now you mad. i played this server now for 3 years and it is always full with many player characters.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: veear on Apr 11, 2018, 03:36 AM


TLDR; this guy is an ICHIBAN member that is trying to defend Parachute by ignoring the information posted in this thread and trying to state that the accusation was based off of theory which it isn't. It is shown and proven by parachute's own video you cannot achieve that exp number using miracle medicines alone. Now if you go level for 1 hour, you will see everyone in the party will have different exp numbers. Anyways read my detailed post if you want to see the truth. Also, if you look at the actual server's forums, it is only filled with complaints about Parachute. The server shows 400+ online but if you actually look at the main town and go to the other towns and other places, you will notice not even 40 ppl on. It's all autotrade vendors or afk multiclients. People already quit because of this incident.

your tldr; is longer than your whole post  /heh
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: ggwp on Apr 11, 2018, 06:03 AM
The only possible explanation is those characters with same exp are partying together since lvl 1 high novice.
Then leveled to 99 on 30x server and made sure everyone are hunting the same exact amount of mobs.

Almost virtually impossible unless someone leech them very quickly in one sitting.

The small difference in millions ?
Quest exp.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 11, 2018, 06:34 AM
The only possible explanation is those characters with same exp are partying together since lvl 1 high novice.
Then leveled to 99 on 30x server and made sure everyone are hunting the same exact amount of mobs.

Almost virtually impossible unless someone leech them very quickly in one sitting.

The small difference in millions ?
Quest exp.

The problem is there wasn't a small difference in the millions. There was about a 20m gap as you can see from the below. Not only that but if you look at the below. Character 5. High On Shrooms his Base exp in the thousands match but his job exp is a complete anomaly. His job exp is completely different. There is nothing that only gives job exp. So the whole thing is impossible.

Btw idk if you know but if you try leveling multiple characters at once, even if you all kill the same amount of monsters, the exp isn't distributed evenly. There are chances when killing a mob that the exp will be distributed unevenly.

All characters are from ICHIBAN guild aka chknfoot

1. Character "Junai"                 | Base level 98 | Base EXP 415,633,461 | Job EXP 78,934,916
2. Character "Niji"                    | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 96,934,916
3. Character "Chikarra"             | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 86,934,916
4. Character "snowman"           | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 84,934,916
5. Character "High On Shrooms | Base level 98 | Base EXP 399,633,461 | Job EXP 42,434,072
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Emcee on Apr 11, 2018, 08:49 AM
This server is indeed dead. No one to play with. Just autotrades and hidden players. I just went on it to check this dirty managed server.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Nuclear on Apr 11, 2018, 11:07 AM
Sorry to rain on your circle jerk parade. I asked around about this. Your massive conspiracy has a simple solution. The miracle meds in the gpack were tradable, so Chiby (the guy who claimed the gpack) used miracle meds from 28 boxes to powerlevel 14 chars. That's 200x28 divided by 14.

Go figure.

Server is doing fine. Hidden players lmfao. You really are special.

Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Slaykbom on Apr 11, 2018, 12:39 PM
I don't have access to post in the hall of shame section so I posted it here.

What happened is the owner of the server cgRO (https://www.cgamershub.com (https://www.cgamershub.com)), Parachute, got caught command leveling characters and the guild, ICHIBAN, that he command leveled characters for is none other than his own. He tried to say he was giving out 200 miracle meds to guilds as part of a NEW guild package that he hasn't even announced yet and that he gave that guild package to ICHIBAN. However, that does not explain the discrepancy of the experience as shown in the attachment. The players in the screenshot have the same exact number of experience in the hundred thousands and sometimes the millions which are uneven which is impossible because of the way parties gain exp and that miracle medicines only give an EVEN amount of exp. Look at the highlighted in the attachment.

As for veteran players, you know that it is impossible to have the same amount of exp when you level up because each player will get a different amount of exp overtime even if you stayed in the same party as  them from level 1. Now, miracle medicines only give 1 level MAX per use and the exp does NOT overlap if you level up. As we all know, the amount of exp it takes to reach what is shown in the screenshot is more than what 200 miracle meds can produce in this server. Miracle medicines in this server at the time gave 4m base exp and 2m job exp. That means, they would have had to gained 400m+ exp on their own. Even if they did all level in the same party, it does not matter because you cannot have that same amount of exp and discrepancies in the millions and have the same in the thousands because that's simply how gaining exp in RO works. You can try making a party with a character and leveling for 1 hour and you will see there will be a difference between the 2 characters.


Dude why is someone freakin out for some exps? if you Party with your guild the exps are soo high, you dont even care about who is faster max lvl.
I don't even know why anyone care about others getting faster exp than you?
to me it sounds like you are a Little mad kid.

RO exists to have fun and Play with your Team... woe or pvm doesnt matter.
get a f*** joint you need to chill your balls abit dude. Go out and walk abit. How can endure your own toxic?  /hmm /hmm
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 11, 2018, 01:23 PM
It is shown and proven by parachute's own video you cannot achieve that exp number using miracle medicines alone.

Dude idk what you don't understand by leveling and doing exp quests... "You cannot achieve that that exp number using miracle medicines alone" because it wasn't the only thing ICHIBAN used to get exp. Do you know how much of a waste it is to use MM at level 1 when you only need 550/8m exp pts? (Also, I don't know how being an ICHIBAN member is relevant to any of this, but sure throw that s*** around). It is possible to get same exp as a party as long as you stay on the same level indefinitely. Die together, lose same exp. Kill mobs, get same exp. Go figure.

411m exp vs 399m exp:: that's 12m exp you can get from miracle medicine (8m + 4m = 12m?) because it gives flat million exp what is so impossible about that?? So tired of you twisting RO logic for your own purposes lol. Peace out bro, do some research and come back when you've figured it out.

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Party#Setup_Options
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 11, 2018, 02:28 PM
Dude idk what you don't understand by leveling and doing exp quests... "You cannot achieve that that exp number using miracle medicines alone" because it wasn't the only thing ICHIBAN used to get exp. Do you know how much of a waste it is to use MM at level 1 when you only need 550/8m exp pts? (Also, I don't know how being an ICHIBAN member is relevant to any of this, but sure throw that s*** around). It is possible to get same exp as a party as long as you stay on the same level indefinitely. Die together, lose same exp. Kill mobs, get same exp. Go figure.

411m exp vs 399m exp:: that's 12m exp you can get from miracle medicine (8m + 4m = 12m?) because it gives flat million exp what is so impossible about that?? So tired of you twisting RO logic for your own purposes lol. Peace out bro, do some research and come back when you've figured it out.

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Party#Setup_Options

As it states in the wiki you linked, party is equally distributed using a PERCENTAGE. Note a PERCENTAGE. That is why people don't gain the same amount of exp overtime. It would be very close tho. And you're stating the 12m difference in base exp then wtf happened to character #5 that has a completely different job exp but has the same base exp in the thousands? Care to explain?

lol. Ichiban member trying to defend but ending up causing more problems.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Slaykbom on Apr 11, 2018, 06:52 PM
lol. Ichiban member trying to defend but ending up causing more problems.

 /heh

You arent even listening yourself dude you are just ridiculous in that way YOU are causing stupid problem over nothing. Have a nice time raging like a little kid  /no1
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: blink32 on Apr 11, 2018, 07:12 PM
party is equally distributed using a PERCENTAGE.
That is why people don't gain the same amount of exp overtime. It would be very close tho.

go back to school kid, obviously crack aint doing you any good.

you think you know everything about this game, yet you haven't even considered deaths and changing jobs at different levels. go study the ranking charts some more u stupid monkey

here's a screenshot of another server's rankings. (https://i.imgur.com/saoS7Nt.png)
lolol based on your lame dissertation, its safe to assume this server corrupt. matching exps everywhere amiright?

quit spewing crap out of your mouth man, your counter to every other post here, is "HES ICHIBAN DONT LISTEN"  the differences of 1 million exp only proves that it was the effect of miracle elixir u donkey.

TLDR; kid wants a nobel prize in math from studying number patterns but it was later PROVED that he is on fact crack as evidenced by the quote above.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Slaykbom on Apr 11, 2018, 08:06 PM
This server is indeed dead. No one to play with. Just autotrades and hidden players. I just went on it to check this dirty managed server.

(http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/e26dde-1523491715.png) (http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=e26dde-1523491715.png)

Well, my Slay Mall is alive. Im alive and active like many others. Everyone who's gonna take a look will see that you are just talking nonsense.
RMS GMs ban these guys please for fakenews and propaganda.

actually you guys are qualified for Wall of Shame now  /heh /heh /heh
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 11, 2018, 11:28 PM
go back to school kid, obviously crack aint doing you any good.

you think you know everything about this game, yet you haven't even considered deaths and changing jobs at different levels. go study the ranking charts some more u stupid monkey

here's a screenshot of another server's rankings. (https://i.imgur.com/saoS7Nt.png)
lolol based on your lame dissertation, its safe to assume this server corrupt. matching exps everywhere amiright?

quit spewing crap out of your mouth man, your counter to every other post here, is "HES ICHIBAN DONT LISTEN"  the differences of 1 million exp only proves that it was the effect of miracle elixir u donkey.

TLDR; kid wants a nobel prize in math from studying number patterns but it was later PROVED that he is on fact crack as evidenced by the quote above.

Those characters are level 99 and so thats irrelevant because exp caps out, lol more useless defense. Parachute already proven guilty by his own statement that he doesn’t know with solid evidence.

Also you state matching exps everywhere where you clearly did not look at the screenshots nor read the posts. Char # 5 on the detailed post has the same base exp in the thousands but has a completely different job exp. 😂 Also why is there only 2 people defending a 400+ pop server then? Shouldn’t you have GUILDS ON GUILDS HERE? Lol
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: ggwp on Apr 12, 2018, 05:41 AM
Thanks to dumbos who posted screenshot from another server. I just realized that SS on first page are lv 98 characters with 400 mil exp. Arent exp needed for 98 to 99 on pre renewal settings are 343,210,000 ? Anyone can explain how someone with more than 100% exp stay at lv 98 ?
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: heartlove on Apr 12, 2018, 06:54 AM
Those characters are level 99 and so thats irrelevant because exp caps out, lol more useless defense. Parachute already proven guilty by his own statement that he doesn’t know with solid evidence.

Also you state matching exps everywhere where you clearly did not look at the screenshots nor read the posts. Char # 5 on the detailed post has the same base exp in the thousands but has a completely different job exp. 😂 Also why is there only 2 people defending a 400+ pop server then? Shouldn’t you have GUILDS ON GUILDS HERE? Lol


man ur totally right because ur not ichiban everything u say makes total sense playtime best guild cant believe we ever doubted u my bro you are so well versed and diplomatic everyone should try to be like u im from playtime as well yall should believe what i say because im not ichiban all these losers from ichiban dont know what they're talking about. /kis2

all the ppl playing parachute's server come on bros stop pvming/woeing/bging/pvping/sitting pretty in prontera and come see this spectacle on rms because we definitely need all of you to prove parachute is a corrupted gm, anything less than all population is simply a nono this is not enough for us playtime players we need all of u bros  /ok

yea if you noticed, ive only had one other post from years ago. i had to retrieve my account info, so i can log in, just to tell you how genius your argument is. why are you even arguing something that had been resolve prior to your amazing post you attention seeking whore.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Parachute on Apr 12, 2018, 01:55 PM
As explained on my previous post, there's no such thing as abusing @commands to level up characters. As mentioned, we are a hybrid server and to match the hybrid mechanics that I initially planned, I added a screenshot proof on my previous post that explains that CGRO's exp table had been changed. Meaning leveling 90+ onwards, there are more exp needed to level up. To be more accurate based on the char ranking photo claim he provided, leveling from lvl 98 -> 99 needs 50% more exp required. You do not obtain exp using @command as you'll straight get 0%. I even explained in the previous post that all characters obtained that much exp, not only ichiban, since it is pretty much a server feature. The only logical explanation to all of this crap, well I already said, via miracle medicine. that was given part of guild package and that it had been reverted immediately.

The dude who posted this rant want me to explain exactly how the numbers had been identical and I already answered. I honestly didn't know. How would I know? Lmao. But considering this rant seems getting bigger, i personally talked to the one who obtain the guild package from Ichiban, asking how he leveled up the said characters obtaining the very same base exp and job exp. After hearing him out, it made a lot of sense and I realized I even banned some of their accounts that never used miracle medicines. I then recreated the entire scenario in my local server: Miracle meds exp, amounts of miracle meds obtained, and well no need to change but all this follows the server's EXP Table.

Guild Starter Package consist of 1x Guild Leader Box and 27x Guild Member Boxes. Guild Member Box is tradable. Apparently to rush other characters to join WOE, he opened 2x guild member boxes to some of their characters (before the revert, it was 200x miracle meds per box). That explains the instant level. I then asked how he managed to reached the exact amount of base exp and job exp. He told me that all he did was kill anteggs in Anthell just enough to reach job level 10 and start using miracle medicine. I then tested this out in local server, opened 2x boxes that contains 200x miracle meds each, went to Anthell, killed the exact amount of anteggs lvl1 novice and lvl1 high novice, changed job and used the miracle medicine provided. I then checked the exp with my offline flux or character ranking site. Voila, I did obtain the very same base exp and job exp by using it without the need of @commands.

But i was still curious why some characters have different job exps while still have the exact base exp than other characters. He could not explain that one at first. Few days later, I tested this again in local server and realized a probability. "Maybe he put miracle medicine in F1, spammed it to level up. Maybe he used miracle medicine upon reaching job level 50. Using more than what is needed to change job." In that case, the base exp should still bethe same with the rest of characters while others may have lesser job exps.

After verifying everything locally, I thought of making a video to support my statement here. But I already tried to do the hassle and this dude still did not understand crap. Bottom-line, like you said yourself. Test it yourself and you'll know :) I never used @command to any of ichiban's characters. What's the point of risking using such commands? The miracle medicine obtained from Guild Pack was already enough.

Again. If there is anything I admit, the feature of improving the guild package system was my sole mistake (increasing miracle medicine from 20x to 200x) and handing it out to one guild. I then reverted this mistake within 24hrs and decline to give gpack to 2 other guilds (since this isnt meant to be given to ichiban guild only).

I can finally stop replying to this dude. Yes i also admit I have a lot of flaws - I could not even manage my server well and please all my player-base. I may just be an amateur RO owner and not as good or experienced dev than the rest, heck the server donations even dropped bigtime, but I will never be a corrupt admin nor resort to RMT or anything else as what you claim me to be. I'm done talking here. I sure wish you well and had a good laugh after all this. I do understand your frustrations and I forgive you. Though, I wished you could've verified everything first via PM than posting a thread here in RMS. Have a great day!

<snip>
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 12, 2018, 02:29 PM
Guild Starter Package consist of 1x Guild Leader Box and 27x Guild Member Boxes. Guild Member Box is tradable. Apparently to rush other characters to join WOE, he opened 2x guild member boxes to some of their characters (before the revert, it was 200x miracle meds per box). That explains the instant level. I then asked how he managed to reached the exact amount of base exp and job exp. He told me that all he did was kill anteggs in Anthell just enough to reach job level 10 and start using miracle medicine. I then tested this out in local server, opened 2x boxes that contains 200x miracle meds each, went to Anthell, killed the exact amount of anteggs lvl1 novice and lvl1 high novice, changed job and used the miracle medicine provided. I then checked the exp with my offline flux or character ranking site. Voila, I did obtain the very same base exp and job exp by using it without the need of @commands.

But i was still curious why some characters have different job exps while still have the exact base exp than other characters. He could not explain that one at first. Few days later, I tested this again in local server and realized a probability. "Maybe he put miracle medicine in F1, spammed it to level up. Maybe he used miracle medicine upon reaching job level 50. Using more than what is needed to change job." In that case, the base exp should still bethe same with the rest of characters while others may have lesser job exps.

Even starting from lvl 10 like you stated, it's not enough to reach that exp number. You're saying to kill ant eggs when killing ant eggs barely gives exp. You're missing over 400million exp just from being lvl 98. There's still a couple hundred more million exp to gain to go from level 97 to 98. Now, explain how character #5 has "34,000" in the job exp (See below bolded) it seems like that's a number you like to use to level up the character but different in the other number places. That itself is completely impossible.
1. Character "Junai"                 | Base level 98 | Base EXP 415,633,461 | Job EXP 78,934,916
2. Character "Niji"                    | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 96,934,916
3. Character "Chikarra"             | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 86,934,916
4. Character "snowman"           | Base level 98 | Base EXP 411,633,461 | Job EXP 84,934,916
5. Character "High On Shrooms | Base level 98 | Base EXP 399,633,461 | Job EXP 42,434,072
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Xarale on Apr 12, 2018, 10:24 PM
I've been watching over this thread for the past few days, trying to come up with a conclusion.

Before we get into this -
@Parachute - Please stop promoting your server at the end of every post you make.  This is Rant & Rave, not the Server Advertisement section.  Thanks.

Alright, so this will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not entirely convinced that there's any corruption here, but rather a large error on the admin's part.  Parachute admits to originally giving out 200x miracle potions to various members of the Ichiban guild, which he(or she?) later regrets.  In their last post, they also mention the fact that the potion boxes were trade-able, and therefore certain members (namely the creators it'd seem) used twice as many potions, totalling up to 400x.  Whilst it was proven that 200x potions weren't really enough to get to 98/66, maybe 400x might be?

Also as stated by others, the @blvl/@jlvl commands do not give any exp.  If someone had been levelled up with those commands, they wouldn't have any exp.  Period.  Besides, 98/66 seems like an awfully odd number to GM command level someone up to.  Surely if a GM was to abuse commands to level someone up, they'd make them 99/70, no?  Or at least 98/70.  Why 98/66?

After verifying everything locally, I thought of making a video to support my statement here. But I already tried to do the hassle and this dude still did not understand crap. Bottom-line, like you said yourself. Test it yourself and you'll know :)
Personally, I'd like to see a video of it if you have the time to make it.  If you can prove there's a way for someone to reach 98/66 via 400 of those potions, that'd be awesome. (your previous video didn't really prove anything, since they didn't end up at 98/66)

-X.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bue on Apr 13, 2018, 01:49 AM
@parachute, psst, max overcarry exp (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6516).

Even (2k)  (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EvenNumber.html) / Odd (2k+1) (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OddNumber.html); next - 1.
Code: [Select]
2k + 1 = next - 1;
let next be even
2k + 1 = 2k - 1
2k = 2k
next - 1 is odd when next is even
q.e.d

633461; if(sd->status.base_exp > next-1) sd->status.base_exp = next-1;
Code: [Select]
#! /usr/bin/python
exp_table = open("exp.txt").readlines()
adv_table = exp_table[31].split(',')[2:]
adv_table = [int(exp) for exp in adv_table]
miracle_count = 200
miracle_exp = 8000000
base_exp = 0
level = 10  # alternatively loop for 1 - 99
for i in range(miracle_count):
    base_exp = base_exp + miracle_exp
    exp_for_next_level = adv_table[level]
    if exp_for_next_level < base_exp:
        base_exp = base_exp - exp_for_next_level
        if exp_for_next_level - 1 < base_exp:
            base_exp = exp_for_next_level -1
        level = level + 1
print level, base_exp


getexp2 (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/script.cpp#L22637)
pc_gainexp (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6697)
pc_checkbaselevelup (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6507)
baselevelup (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/atcommand.cpp#L1411)

(https://i.imgflip.com/28am6o.jpg)
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 13, 2018, 04:14 AM
I've been watching over this thread for the past few days, trying to come up with a conclusion.

Before we get into this -
@Parachute - Please stop promoting your server at the end of every post you make.  This is Rant & Rave, not the Server Advertisement section.  Thanks.

Alright, so this will probably be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not entirely convinced that there's any corruption here, but rather a large error on the admin's part.  Parachute admits to originally giving out 200x miracle potions to various members of the Ichiban guild, which he(or she?) later regrets.  In their last post, they also mention the fact that the potion boxes were trade-able, and therefore certain members (namely the creators it'd seem) used twice as many potions, totalling up to 400x.  Whilst it was proven that 200x potions weren't really enough to get to 98/66, maybe 400x might be?

Also as stated by others, the @blvl/@jlvl commands do not give any exp.  If someone had been levelled up with those commands, they wouldn't have any exp.  Period.  Besides, 98/66 seems like an awfully odd number to GM command level someone up to.  Surely if a GM was to abuse commands to level someone up, they'd make them 99/70, no?  Or at least 98/70.  Why 98/66?
Personally, I'd like to see a video of it if you have the time to make it.  If you can prove there's a way for someone to reach 98/66 via 400 of those potions, that'd be awesome. (your previous video didn't really prove anything, since they didn't end up at 98/66)

-X.


The miracle medicines are not tradeable. The reason why the chars are not 99/70 is because trans classes had just released at the time and thats why theres not many 99/70 in the rankings.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 13, 2018, 04:28 AM
@parachute, psst, max overcarry exp (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6516).

Even (2k)  (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EvenNumber.html) / Odd (2k+1) (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OddNumber.html); next - 1.
Code: [Select]
2k + 1 = next - 1;
let next be even
2k + 1 = 2k - 1
2k = 2k
next - 1 is odd when next is even
q.e.d

633461; if(sd->status.base_exp > next-1) sd->status.base_exp = next-1;
Code: [Select]
#! /usr/bin/python
exp_table = open("exp.txt").readlines()
adv_table = exp_table[31].split(',')[2:]
adv_table = [int(exp) for exp in adv_table]
miracle_count = 200
miracle_exp = 8000000
base_exp = 0
level = 10  # alternatively loop for 1 - 99
for i in range(miracle_count):
    base_exp = base_exp + miracle_exp
    exp_for_next_level = adv_table[level]
    if exp_for_next_level < base_exp:
        base_exp = base_exp - exp_for_next_level
        if exp_for_next_level - 1 < base_exp:
            base_exp = exp_for_next_level -1
        level = level + 1
print level, base_exp


getexp2 (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/script.cpp#L22637)
pc_gainexp (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6697)
pc_checkbaselevelup (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6507)
baselevelup (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/atcommand.cpp#L1411)

(https://i.imgflip.com/28am6o.jpg)

Max carry over exp wouldn’t make sense here because if you look at character #5 in the detailed post, his job exp is a complete anomaly.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 13, 2018, 12:06 PM
"Maybe he used miracle medicine upon reaching job level 50. Using more than what is needed to change job."

Attached (well, I hope they attached... nvr used this function b4) are screenshots from CGRO of a b/jlv 1 novice vs a max b/jlv high priest killing one ant egg. This would explain why a char would be millions of exp away job-level-wise and still have the same blv exp (actually, I just realized I mixed up the two. The ss would actually explain why a char would have same job exp but not same job lv, which is completely irrelevant to any of the proofs in question).

edit: I'm an easily impressionable person and tend to imitate those I've been exposed to for a long time. That said, there were many insults here and so I've removed them. Also apologies if you did see them lol. Will be editing old posts as well to include only relevant things to the issue.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bue on Apr 13, 2018, 12:25 PM
angelwing1, you are officially so fking lame lmao. Parachute already answered your question. Can't you read anything that isn't your own words?

Attached (well, I hope they attached... nvr used this function b4) are screenshots from CGRO of a b/jlv 1 novice vs a max b/jlv high priest killing one ant egg. If you have a brain, you'll understand why ANY char would be millions of exp away job-level-wise and still have the same blv. It would do you some good to review what kind of proofs are unquestionable next time you wanna point fingers and accuse someone of corruption. Oh, and learn to read, thanks.

If you read the source code, then you will understand that max base level and job level have different caps. Source (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L59).
Code: [Select]
#define MAX_LEVEL_BASE_EXP 99999999 ///< Max Base EXP for player on Max Base Level
#define MAX_LEVEL_JOB_EXP 999999999 ///< Max Job EXP for player on Max Job Level

And this cap applies on max job level, but Shrooms is not max job level. Source (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6719)
Code: [Select]
if (flag&8){ // flag's 0x8 bit is set only on max job level (see source link)
     if( sd->status.job_exp >= MAX_LEVEL_JOB_EXP )
            job_exp = 0;
     else if( sd->status.job_exp + job_exp >= MAX_LEVEL_JOB_EXP )
           job_exp = MAX_LEVEL_JOB_EXP - sd->status.job_exp;
}

Unlike OP's claims, which are base on speculation on exp discrepancies, you are just flat out wrong.

And while it is convenient to explain the experience discrepancies using @*levelup, I think there is a major misunderstanding between both sides on how base and job experience works.

Also, I can't explain the experience discrepancies without the exp table.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 13, 2018, 12:47 PM
And this cap applies on max job level, but Shrooms is not max job level.  (https://github.com/rathena/rathena/blob/master/src/map/pc.cpp#L6719)

I'm a computer major but I don't understand codes that much, so I did not bother to read the code.

However, I do know you can get max level at 50 from first job. So he did in fact get max job level.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bue on Apr 13, 2018, 01:03 PM
Max carry over exp wouldn’t make sense here because if you look at character #5 in the detailed post, his job exp is a complete anomaly.

I'm a computer major but I don't understand codes that much, so I did not bother to read the code.

However, I do know you can get max level at 50 from first job. So he did in fact get max job level.

The map server's session data for a player does not keep the cumulative total for base or job experience.

This is a bad idea due to the unsigned 32-bit limit use to store the base and job experience.

The only way to verify OP's claims is by proving that miracle potions cannot get you to 98/66, which can only be explain by @*levelup if it is impossible for the player to earn the remaining gap within a period of time.

Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
I see. I did not know that. So only the levels gained from transcend second job (or last job if non-transcend) would show up on the rankings?
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bue on Apr 13, 2018, 02:52 PM
The base and job experience is cumulative for the current level only.

The way leveling is handled in pc_check*levelup makes that pretty obvious.

P.S. you can go confirm on rathena's discord if you don't believe me.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Enemy on Apr 13, 2018, 06:04 PM
lmao @all the idiots playing on parachutes server. s*** was bound to happen just like it happened with atlasro, parachute (luke) suddenly disappeared after no money came in and he's doing same on his new cash server  /heh server is dead, no updates other than cash shop. you can see it on their forun even players state the same and admin prefers to respond on rms than fixing his server or replying to players concerns  /no1 better wait for new server  /heh
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Bluebell on Apr 14, 2018, 09:00 AM
Thanks Bue, I'm on the same page as you guys now. My guess is ICHIBAN forgot to job change Shrooms at some point, meaning while the other chars were getting levels as planned, he got left behind. This makes a lot of sense to me, though it's just a guess.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Ringo on Apr 14, 2018, 11:59 AM
This one guy makes new RMS forum account just to "hide" his "secret identity"(http://i.imgur.com/bnI8mcw.gif) 
And the poster who just simply talks nothing else but negative things he sees in any server he hates.

Like how he thinks that @lvlup command sets the player's EXP to the maximum or a fixed amount to hit a certain level. One thing for sure is that he's not forcing anyone to play his server nor forced to donate for the server. (Well maybe if you did, donation is not a personal insurance plan. That's what I believe.)(http://i.imgur.com/LOpPxmZ.gif) I find this request useless since he's basing his reasons to an illogical gaming basis. (http://i.imgur.com/HGnBSVg.gif)


Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Kris on Apr 17, 2018, 03:49 AM
my boy parachute really pulled off a yrvine (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_bo9e7dq.png)

2k18 we off to a start (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/hhh.png)
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: fcktehname on Apr 24, 2018, 06:23 AM
so, has things been decided yet on this topic? Parachute already ditched the server, it's been 10 days, even chknfoot guild is playing on another server now. even the 14th April maintenance and changelog topic have been unpinned, you have to scroll down to notice them, probably so the server doesn't look dead to pull the last few donations.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Deviant. on Apr 25, 2018, 12:00 PM
Lol server actually died. Let the cycle continueeeee.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Pilosopo on Apr 28, 2018, 11:53 AM
Parachute left the server without saying anything.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on Apr 29, 2018, 03:28 PM
Everyone is also forgetting that you can't be in a party from level 1 because you need job level 7 to create a party or job level 5 to join one. That means that the players must have had to do leveling on their own before even playing together.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Zereges on May 09, 2018, 04:08 AM
Everyone is also forgetting that you can't be in a party from level 1 because you need job level 7 to create a party or job level 5 to join one. That means that the players must have had to do leveling on their own before even playing together.
Basic skills were never implemented properly. Most servers allowed you to join the party even at basic skill 0.
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: Kris on May 14, 2018, 08:17 AM
so my boy Parachute gonna finally be inducted in the wall of shame - class of 2018 or nah?
Title: Re: Parachute (cgRO) Chknfoot Leader | Hall Of Shame Request
Post by: angelwing1 on May 20, 2018, 03:43 AM
Basic skills were never implemented properly. Most servers allowed you to join the party even at basic skill 0.

Yes they were lol. "Most Servers" but not this one. them excuses.

Funny how in 1 week the pop goes from 400 to like 15 and the server dies. It's cause it's botted as well. Smh.