MysticRO Greed?

[E 40]

Alright I have GMed on this server MysticRO for some time, seen many diffrent issues, some dealt with correctly, others done.. rather not so correct...
No I am not making a "hate" review for I still happen to be a GM... but.. I doubt for much longer lol especially after seeing the recent events that have taken place...
After witnessing a jealous player stir up trouble for a newly appointed GM, all because she chose to not date him, and would spend time with another player other then himself, he decided  to manipulate the owner into firing this GM, not only did this happen, but he got the owner to go onto her legits account and strip everything of value from her chars...(Yes its true he did give a few items as gifts, but stilll he [gave] so truly they dont belong to him no more right? not to mention fact he had all her stuff she worked for, taken also?) and well... of course Server owner will listen to everything this donator player says as all he cares about is money.... funny tho how he chose a donator over his last loyal GM Team...(it went from 20 staff to 5 and down to  soon what? 0? Previous Admins of his got sick of his money hungry ways, and went on to make servers of their own, will he ever learn? I bet his next step is to make the donator a GM? sorry but.. I seen this happen in another server... CursedRO, Donator GMs? so yea.. thats why Im Resigning my GM spot in MysticRO and I just thought to share why.

[Lovette]

I was GM on MysticRo as well, a very loyal player and I donated not much but I have, but happened that This BIG donor whinned because I didn't want to be with him due to his lies and he wanted me fired, so then I was told by the ADM/Owner that I should be "nice" to this player or I would get fired because he supported the server. I refused to agreed on such situation so I resigned.

Then a few hours later I get a PM coming fromd the ADM/Owner and he requested for the donations items that this Donor gave me as gift, I told him he could give back all the items he gave me and In return he gave this donor my full account stripping all my toons to ZERO, even my own donation items, my quest items, my friend's items all was gone only because the donor said he would go out of the server if I didnt do what they wanted. Then I got all my accounts banned even forums and my donation money as long as with the whole time i spend on this server were nothing for this server Owner.

I think this should be known because i think is totally unprofessional.

[Myteriouss]

Holy crap.. this all happened on MysticRO? o_O

Did MysticRO every change Server Owners/Admins?  I don't remember MysticRO ever being like this.. o_o from my point of view, I thought it looked like a good decent server to play on (when I was server hunting). However, knowing the fact that the Owner/Admin is protecting a donator (just for money purposes) is low =/

[DeePee]

20 staff

Am I the only one who wtf'd at 20 staff members?

[yC]

Deepee, you are not alone.

Well, I don't believe a server owner is so easily manipulated.  It isn't a new server run by a newb owner if you mean this one http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=6113&itv=6&url_sname=MysticRO:%20Origins

jealous player? dating? oh god they shouldn't be RO issues ... just play the game.

[E 40]

Sad to say Yc but... it happened, all ADMin Skanders/Zohan cares about is money, the staff asked to use some donate money for advertising purposes and he wouldnt release the funds to do so. makes one wonder just where a donators cash really is going...?
check the voting sites even.. players are voting less too...

ps Yc can you move this to hall of shame please? thanks.

[Myteriouss]

Deepee, you are not alone.

Well, I don't believe a server owner is so easily manipulated.  It isn't a new server run by a newb owner if you mean this one http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=6113&itv=6&url_sname=MysticRO:%20Origins

jealous player? dating? oh god they shouldn't be RO issues ... just play the game.

Rofl I agree. We're talking about the SHR right? xD

Am I the only one who wtf'd at 20 staff members?

Why would wtf at that?

[Lovette]

If you dont think the Admin can be manipulated with money I could post the screens and all the proves, so you know what is this server all about, I've played there for a year, and then he Owner give my password and username to some Donator.. Do you guys really think that's fair?

[Chemical Crush]

If you dont think the Admin can be manipulated with money I could post the screens and all the proves, so you know what is this server all about, I've played there for a year, and then he Owner give my password and username to some Donator.. Do you guys really think that's fair?

Tbh w/o proof a lot of people will probably think this is BS.  I mean, honestly, who believes what someone types up 90% of the time?  Especially if its accusing someone else.  Just a buncha he said she said stuff.

[Myteriouss]

Tbh w/o proof a lot of people will probably think this is BS.  I mean, honestly, who believes what someone types up 90% of the time?  Especially if its accusing someone else.  Just a buncha he said she said stuff.

Crush is right. What people say about a server (whether it's bad or good) might shock other people, but without proof of actually backing up your facts.. well.. could be just another way to bash a server. =/

@Topic Owner,
Not saying a lot of people may not TRUST/BELIEVE you.. but it may be true because a lot of servers just want money nowadays..

[msanders1020]

Hello Ratemyserver Forums.

All I can say is wow to this!  I have released a statement of what the money goes to and how it is spent. Also, showed how much I lost because of pay pal scams but then again you have your select few that cause drama and get caught.

With E 40 post, it was nothing to do with him but all to do with Lovette. She was caught dating a top donor and didn't like the fact the donor was talking to another girl on the server. So, she came to me and I told her to let it go because it is e-drama and to suck it up because they will never meet anyway! Mexico to New York come on now.  So, she kept it going and got the other girl to send screen shots of her convo with the donor to prove what was said.  Lovette quit because the drama got so deep with her and the two guys she was talking to at the time.  So, no one caused her to be fired she QUIT on her own.  She ran from the fact of her problems and couldn't fix any of them.  So, get the facts straight before you run on to ratemyserver and post this.

Also, the donor asked her for the items back he let her use, she gave him 4 of the 20+ he lent her. So, I returned his items and left the rest there. Her account is not stripped to zero. She has all her items she got by herself along with her chars.  She quit and deleted m-RO supposely so I asked if he could get his items back. She gave me the user name and password freely.  She got banned because she was slandering my name on server and on forums.  I removed her gm account and she didn't like that.  So, she kept going to cause me to do an IP banned.  Any server would not have waited as long as I did to take actions towards her but then again because I banned her they came here.

I would do this for any of my donors in m-RO but she is to bull headed to listen to anyone but herself.  Also, her boyfriend now is Sora which donated $300 and expected to be all high and mighty in the server. Wanted me to kiss his donkey for another $200. Telling me that he wants this and that to be done with the money. When all server owners know what is going to be done with money. So, greed is not the topic here, its the stupidity of a player that got caught and quit, wanting to ruin someones imagine!

Then for the Admin that left because of the money is false. She left to start her own server and I still talk to her.  Here is a screen shot to proof that my admin didn't quite because of money!
http://mysticro.com/themes/default/img/proof.png

We never have 20 staff members. I laughed so hard at this lol!  We have 4 admins. One is myself, two in game admins, and one devolper!  Then 3 event gms because of time zones that are active and the rest have been let go.  So really that is false also.

So, yC can you remove this post do to slander or harrasment?

Thanks for the time!
MysticRO Admin

[yC]

Rarely we remove topics of rant but also rarely we put topics into Hall of Shame these days.  What's next depend on what we get next.

E 40 and Lovette, the owner of the server had spoken.  There is nothing that stops you from posting any sort of supporting documents to make believe since the beginning.  It is encouraged that you should post as much details as possible. 

[Lovette]

Well since the arguments here are false I got the ss's
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8182/lies1.jpg
Who is gonna support the server ? This argument stats that the donor Its actually on the owner eyes the ONLY one who supports the server which he denied on the previous post.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6819/lies2y.jpg
So, someone had to get banned ? even someone who wasn't there to defend herself..


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9378/lies3.jpg
So then After i quit. The donor didn't agree this time so the Owner contacted me only for that reason, and also mysteriously my Good bye posts and resign dissapeared.. This is also related to something that the Owner said that I got my GM banned and I didn't like it, that does not make any sense since i quitted...

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3711/lies5.jpg
Then again how can a supposed professional owner can't realize he is protection someone...

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4309/lies6.jpg
Previous image also lead me to the rules..  the rule number 20 states that once the items are given away or borrowed its under your own risk, which also can confirm the Owner is breaking his own server rules, that and asking for payers passwords...


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1461/screenmystyc000.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6225/screenmystyc001.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8894/screenmystyc008.jpg
This are screenshots of can confirm as well how this donor took all my items away ALL of them, also insulting me when i tried to log into my OWN account.

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4158/liesh.jpg
then I wen to forums and i posted "Thank you for giving away my account and take all my items away" Then the next what happened is that the message was changed of course to protect the donor and  i was banned.

Regarding to my personal life is none of his business but the thing here is that his financial support as he call it got upset because I didn't want to know about him due to his lies. If i have friends or not If i talk who ever i talk to in game is MY problem. Any further statements regarding my personal life shouldn't be related to this issue that's something called Ethics...

Regarding the Items I've lost and as he calls it " I always return back the items to the donors" Then i want my donations and items back!

But of course was much easier just to ban play unfair and keep the donor happy. I did agree on returning all the items this brat donor gave me as GIFT only because I was being polite and I didn't care about items but.. What was my surprise when I saw my whole account was cleaned out including my friend's items my donation items and my friends can also confirm that.

So yeah Mr. Sanders next time you reply make sure you are telling the truth and not only lie to fix your own mistakes or It will make you look even worst.

My point in this topic reply is to show other people how this can happen to anyone who plays that server if some donor lies and starts drama about them. This isn't  the first time that has happened and as for me I wont let some brat donor control what I do or who are my friends that's why I quit. My question is do you still think this all wasn't all about greed ?.  Is it worth to lose loyal staff members along with several server members because of one single donor ?.

Thanks for reading this post and I hope was helpful so you can know how the things are going in this server.

[msanders1020]

Nice screen shots because everything you posted was me saying I would do it for any donor.

First screen shot you can see I said who is going to support the server? Yes, I said that because we only have 20 to 30 players atm! He is the only one that is donating atm. That is why I said it.

Second screen shot you can see I said we will lose if both of you leave! That is a true statement because I would have to replace a GM and find a way to support the server. I was trying to solve a problem between them because that person was playing both of them.  So, I asked if banning her would solve their problems but then Lovette would change topic.  I don't feel like that is greed or protecting a person.  Am I wrong?

Third screen shot shows me asking her if she is coming back! I was informed that they were talking about her coming back and wanted Andrew to talk to me.  One I didn't fire her, two she quit, and three I never seen her regination post.  So, when I messaged her I was under the assumption she was still GMing.  She still had her accounts and was still active on forums.

Fourth Screen shot shows me what her online b/f was sending me.  He was telling me that donor is a child and needs to grow up, come solve his problems like a man.  I said in return that he needs to have the same standards for her as him because they both came to me about this.  At this point I am so fed up with the drama between them that I could careless what happen.   None of this has anything to do with the server anyway. It is all about what their personal online lifes.

Fifth Screen shot states the rules.  Ok, rule was broken but I would do it for any donor and that is stated in the convo with her.  Sorry that I protect all donor items on the server! I'm a bad person because I do that?

The next 4 screen shots were of her breaking the rules.  She flamed on the server about him and I, she called him names, She went the forums and posted in shoutbox about her items being stolen, and then pming him to call him a pathetic loser but this is all ok because she is not a donor?  Like I stated before, she would not stop with the spaming of her items and running her mouth on the server.  So that led to a ban of her account, which then she didn't like and came here. 

To end this post, yes there might be somethings that I should have done on my own but it doesn't show greed or currouptness.  You have helped me prove what I am saying is true, when you posted those screenshots!  Everyone of them have you and the donor going back and forth at each other, me stateing that I would have done this for any donor(you left out where I said I would do it for you), also shows that I was asking you if you are coming back, and then it shows I could careless if he left because he told me he was leaving in a month.

Thanks again for reading this but you can see it has nothing to do with server and is about her personal e-drama!
MysticRO Admin

[Chemical Crush]

Second screen shot you can see I said we will lose if both of you leave! That is a true statement because I would have to replace a GM and find a way to support the server.  I don't feel like that is greed or protecting a person.  Am I wrong?

The hell?  If you can't afford your server w/o donations you need to not run a server lol? 

Fourth Screen shot shows me what her online b/f was sending me.  He was telling me that donor is a child and needs to grow up, come solve his problems like a man.  I said in return that he needs to have the same standards for her as him because they both came to me about this.  At this point I am so fed up with the drama between them that I could careless what happen.   None of this has anything to do with the server anyway. It is all about what their personal online lifes.

Tbh there shouldn't be that much drama between a GM and a Player?  Why would you even put yourself in this kinda situation?  It looks unprofessional on all of you guys. 

Fifth Screen shot states the rules.  Ok, rule was broken but I would do it for any donor and that is stated in the convo with her.  Sorry that I protect all donor items on the server! I'm a bad person because I do that?

Wow, just wow.  If you have this mindset please, do us all a favor and quit GMing.  You have a rule, stick by it.  Don't pick and choose who you 'break' rules for.  Thats just an idiot move on your part.

The next 4 screen shots were of her breaking the rules.  She flamed on the server about him and I, she called him names, She went the forums and posted in shoutbox about her items being stolen, and then pming him to call him a pathetic loser but this is all ok because she is not a donor?  Like I stated before, she would not stop with the spaming of her items and running her mouth on the server.  So that led to a ban of her account, which then she didn't like and came here. 

Tbh You as an admin and she as a GM are both in the wrong on so many things here.  Lord, who the hell is running servers / gming nowadays?

To end this post, yes there might be somethings that I should have done on my own but it doesn't show greed or currouptness. 

Lol........please, define greed and corruption for me.  You are catering to a donor because you need their money to support your server.

You have helped me prove what I am saying is true, when you posted those screenshots!  Everyone of them have you and the donor going back and forth at each other, me stateing that I would have done this for any donor(you left out where I said I would do it for you), also shows that I was asking you if you are coming back, and then it shows I could careless if he left because he told me he was leaving in a month.

Again, greed/corruption.

Thanks again for reading this but you can see it has nothing to do with server and is about her personal e-drama!
MysticRO Admin

Actually it does show how you treat your 'donors' on your server.  It shows that you lack the ability to be a decent GM because you think its okay for you to break the rules for your 'donors' so you can support your server because you lack funds.  Granted yes, it also shows e-drama.  But you just made yourself look just as bad.