macro/bot or nah?

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valhallaknight

I WAS playing on this low-rate private server and a certain event made me quit and leave it for good. It happened on the mosc Les map, I saw this creator and his bard farming sharp leafs and noticed that his bard is playing it's song buff every 20sec after the buff is over and has a pattern of some sort and decided to test if it was a bot/macro. The bard is equipped with a lesser elemental ring (has a chance to cast sprint/backslide/first aid ect when physically attacked) and was at the creator's side before I began recording. It was attacked by a mantis and procced sprint and backslide that's why it went a few cells down from the creator's cell (not shown in the video). Notice how we DBd him to see if he'll react or not and even went to res his dead toons and to my surprise it was still playing it's song in it's 20sec pattern. The player was banned and got unbanned again because apparently this was not a solid evidence of him using macro/bot. What do you guys think? Am I wrong of accusing this said individual of using third party programs? If so please prove me wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqIKP7nsLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGys1jonnTg

Edit: Fixed a few stuff on what happened.

Ragplayer

#1
its hard to keep up with this post, keeps getting edited so much /no1

rizzen

If the player was botting, the bard would have immediately started playing it's songs again once resurrected, no?

valhallaknight

Explain to me the "pattern" on which the bard is playing it's song before and after it was res pls and come one, are you not checking your alchemist every now and then to actually NOT notice that your creator/alch and homun is dead? Not to mention playing your bard when it's clearly out of the range of your homun.

Cazerack

To Ragplayer: earlier you mentioned about it not being a big deal, however that would provide a unfair advantage and can be used for further exploitation such as farming cards with a alchemist by using a teleport clip and have their homunculus with a set AI to teleport in set periods killing monsters. Not to mention it is listed this server's rules for 3rd party programs such as a macro. In response to rizzen, perhaps it was not a bot. However it did start playing after getting resurrected. You would have to be pretty blind to not take notice of that

rizzen

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 09:38 PM
In response to rizzen, perhaps it was not a bot. However it did start playing after getting resurrected. You would have to be pretty blind to not take notice of that

I noticed it. I also know that there are two sides to every story. I play on the server, and know both the person that posted this topic, and the person they're questioning. The player in the videos frequently afks on their Alch while watching movies or shows, and only pays attention to their clients to use a skill every so often to avoid losing @autoloot capability. I'm sure one of the next questions will be, why is there no reaction to seeing the death window? I'm not the player in the video, but I can tell you that they've had dead branches dropped on their characters multiple times before, so it's nothing new to come back to one.

Cazerack

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Quote from: rizzen on Sep 08, 2015, 09:49 PM
The player in the videos frequently afks on their Alch while watching movies or shows, and only pays attention to their clients to use a skill every so often to avoid losing @autoloot capability. I'm sure one of the next questions will be, why is there no reaction to seeing the death window? I'm not the player in the video, but I can tell you that they've had dead branches dropped on their characters multiple times before, so it's nothing new to come back to one.
Now that is interesting, are you capable of explaining why the playing of music are in set intervals, as can be seen in the video even after death and coming back. On another matter, one would have fed their homunculus at some point to have notice this. However this behavior lasted for hours. If you want to argue that it is timed, one would have may noticed that their homunculus has died at some point. If he was watching videos, that would mean he would have alt tabbed to RO client to activate skills. The fact that you know him, also clouds your judgement. Furthermore, I have seen this person on another character teleporting in set intervals killing monsters with another alchemist, and leaving half dead monsters. Oh, and also about him being dbed multiple times, I have not noticed it HOWEVER if he did get hurassed in such manner one would have most certainly check up on their characters often enough so that such event has not occured.

Edit: I ain't targetting someone, I would just prefer to have unbiased views from other people. Furthermore, I don't mean any harm to server, which is why I have not mentioned the server name

valhallaknight

Quote from: rizzen on Sep 08, 2015, 09:49 PM
I noticed it. I also know that there are two sides to every story. I play on the server, and know both the person that posted this topic, and the person they're questioning. The player in the videos frequently afks on their Alch while watching movies or shows, and only pays attention to their clients to use a skill every so often to avoid losing @autoloot capability. I'm sure one of the next questions will be, why is there no reaction to seeing the death window? I'm not the player in the video, but I can tell you that they've had dead branches dropped on their characters multiple times before, so it's nothing new to come back to one.

Even if you're watching a movie or whatever. Are you actually that good that you're showing a pattern or an interval on your bard EVERY TIME you use it's skill?  Which is 20sec as shown in the video and is really fishy to me. Explain this to me please  /wah

Tang

#8
First of all, it's not every 20 seconds. I'm not sure how you came up with that number. It's every 2 minutes and sometimes a little bit more.

Second, have you ever heard of running a media player in always on top mode? Homunculus farming is boring as s***, and I've personally had a media player in always on top mode so I can simple click the title bar, press a hotkey, while watching my show the entire time.

Here if you want to try it, install a media player (I use VLC), enable always on top mode (in VLC: Video -> Always on top), maximize the window, watch a video, and click your RO windows in the task bar.

It's honestly the most efficient way I can think of when farming with a homunculus.

I'm not saying that's what this person is doing but it's very possible and I can see myself in the same situation.

I would be pissed off if I was banned while sitting there with my timer app alerting me to use my skills every 2~min.  /omg

Cazerack

Quote from: Tang on Sep 08, 2015, 10:22 PM
First of all, it's not every 20 seconds. I'm not sure how you came up with that number. It's every 2 minutes and sometimes a little bit more.
You have a valid point about playing a video, however if you were to watch the time frames on the 2nd video, it is every 20 secs. At time frame 3:07 it stops playing and at 3:27 it plays again and 5:27 it stops and at 5:47 it plays again
on the first video 0:34 to 0:54, and 2:54 to 3:14 most definitely in 20 sec interval

Nomar

#10
Damn it Tang. Lol. I am the player in question here. I was indeed watching a movie in VLC and it is always on top. This is why I was unbanned to begin with. I explained this to the GM. I was breaking absolutely no rules and as a result I asked the GM to change the rules so that this type of drama doesn't happen in the future. Now we have established the rule that a homunculus player must be able to respond to a GM/PM within a reasonable time if they are still looting items or casting skills. Also I have been griefed by players on the server with DBs on multiple occasions and I just get up dust myself off and get back on the horse. To the point of the timing, well lets see how to explain this. Well time moves in one direction(or so I assume). I have mastered the ability with the help of devices to decode time. I know amazing. Okay all jokes aside I just have an app that makes a ping noise every 2 minutes and 20 seconds and I press a button. This player really took this over the deep end. I didn't see this coming at all.

Oh and a quick edit. I doubt I'll be responding to anything in this topic after this. It's been dealt with and new rules have even been made because of it. Most have moved on but a few grumpy old men continue to turn it into Days of Our Lives.

Oh and it was 2 minutes and 20 seconds to give my bard some time to regen SP between songs.

valhallaknight

Quote from: Tang on Sep 08, 2015, 10:22 PM
First of all, it's not every 20 seconds. I'm not sure how you came up with that number. It's every 2 minutes and sometimes a little bit more.

Second, have you ever heard of running a media player in always on top mode? Homunculus farming is boring as s***, and I've personally had a media player in always on top mode so I can simple click the title bar, press a hotkey, while watching my show the entire time.

Here if you want to try it, install a media player (I use VLC), enable always on top mode (in VLC: Video -> Always on top), maximize the window, watch a video, and click your RO windows in the task bar.

It's honestly the most efficient way I can think of when farming with a homunculus.

I'm not saying that's what this person is doing but it's very possible and I can see myself in the same situation.

I would be pissed off if I was banned while sitting there with my timer app uses my skills every 2~min.  /omg

It's 20sec AFTER the song buff is over watch the video again and you will notice a pattern. Are you not feeding your homun to not notice what's happening around you? Not to mention checking if you're OVERWEIGHT because that creator has been there for hours. I'm sure at some point you had to move your items to your cart. But seeing that you're not around at that time proves it otherwise. The said player even told the GMs that he was been DBd frequently and just doesn't give a f*** anymore which is BS. No ONE DBd him before this was the one and only time he was DBd /smh

Cazerack

Quote from: Nomar on Sep 08, 2015, 10:32 PM
I have been griefed by players on the server with DBs on multiple occasions and I just get up dust myself off and get back on the horse
I find that funny, since I have never been DBed before, and no one I have known that often AFK's at les been DBed, or dbed others. However your guildmate who I shall not mention has been griefing others by intimidating multiple times, even after we kill the corresponding monster that was warped.

And to further go on about it, if you really have been DBed many times like I mentioned before, you would most certainly have checked your characters of such an event. Atleast in the sense a normal person would. Or attempt to have caught such perpertraitors, brought it up to a GM.

If you wanna bring in your guildmates to this argument, atleast get your story straight. Where your guildmate says it's not 2 minutes and 20 secs and then you saying it is, after I mention the time frames

Tang

Quote from: Nomar on Sep 08, 2015, 10:32 PM
Damn it Tang. Lol. I am the player in question here. I was indeed watching a movie in VLC and it is always on top. This is why I was unbanned to begin with. I explained this to the GM. I was breaking absolutely no rules and as a result I asked the GM to change the rules so that this type of drama doesn't happen in the future. Now we have established the rule that a homunculus player must be able to respond to a GM/PM within a reasonable time if they are still looting items or casting skills. Also I have been griefed by players on the server with DBs on multiple occasions and I just get up dust myself off and get back on the horse. To the point of the timing, well lets see how to explain this. Well time moves in one direction(or so I assume). I have mastered the ability with the help of devices to decode time. I know amazing. Okay all jokes aside I just have an app that makes a ping noise every 2 minutes and 20 seconds and I press a button. This player really took this over the deep end. I didn't see this coming at all.

I was not sure if you would come explain yourself  /swt. I overheard a game master mention always on top windows in-game and I've done it myself in the past so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

Quote from: valhallaknight on Sep 08, 2015, 10:33 PM
It's 20sec AFTER the song buff is over watch the video again and you will notice a pattern. Are you not feeding your homun to not notice what's happening around you? Not to mention checking if you're OVERWEIGHT because that creator has been there for hours. I'm sure at some point you had to move your items to your cart. But seeing that you're not around at that time proves it otherwise. The said player even told the GMs that he was been DBd frequently and just doesn't give a f*** anymore which is BS. No ONE DBd him before this was the one and only time he was DBd /smh

You only submitted about 13 minutes of video. You don't need to feed a homunculus for quite sometime. I've forgot to feed my homunculus countless times while mindlessly farming with a show on.

Are you saying their macro decided to randomly change from 2~min to 20 seconds? Why on earth would that happen? It's much more likely he decided to press the hotkey early.

I really don't believe this is enough proof to get them banned and it seems they implemented a rule for these situations.

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 10:42 PM
I find that funny, since I have never been DBed before, and no one I have known that often AFK's at les been DBed, or dbed others. However your guildmate who I shall not mention has been griefing others by intimidating multiple times, even after we kill the corresponding monster that was warped.

Um, you must not play very much. I've seen this happen many times and had to @request about it.

Cazerack

13 minutes yes, however would you have preferred we recorded for a couple of hours? Because, we most certainly should have since, you refuse to accept the truth. OR you do and choose, to keep defending it. Like one of your guildmates said when asked if he would leave if he remained banned as result of being in the wrong "I would leave, regardless of him being right or wring because we are friends." I really do wish the GM's of said server were able to post a log for you, however sadly there isn't.

At this point we dont' care if he gets banned or not, we just simply want some other's view. However you keep bringing in guildmates to defend yourself. Further proves you are hiding something. We want outsider view, not someone from the same guild that has gotten a mutual relationship of getting leeched for exp.

If you truly find nothing at wrong, you and your guildmates would quit posting here and just let a unbiased person to post their view.

Also on further review of your post tang, I did not mean that the macro changes from 2 mins to 20 secs, however the interval for a assassin cross cast, to when it ends was in a 20 second interval. So considering that assasin cross lasts 120 secs the macro is activating every 2 mins and 20 secs

Tang

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 10:49 PM
13 minutes yes, however would you have preferred we recorded for a couple of hours? Because, we most certainly should have since, you refuse to accept the truth. OR you do and choose, to keep defending it. Like one of your guildmates said when asked if he would leave if he remained banned as result of being in the wrong "I would leave, regardless of him being right or wring because we are friends." I really do wish the GM's of said server were able to post a log for you, however sadly there isn't.

At this point we dont' care if he gets banned or not, we just simply want some other's view. However you keep bringing in guildmates to defend yourself. Further proves you are hiding something. We want outsider view, not someone from the same guild that has gotten a mutual relationship of getting leeched for exp

Refuse to accept the truth? Who are you to decide what the truth is? As explained above, there are situations that could lead to this without using any 3rd party tools.

I am not in any guild, I don't give a s*** about any of the guilds. I am simply a player that supports the server and I heard about this topic in #main.

Edit: this topic should be closed. It's a childish s*** flinging contest. They've implemented a new rule to deal with this, what do you want?

Cazerack

We never mentioned the server in question, so why would you bother about posting it here then. And if that really is the case, who are you in the game? If you claimed to have been in this server for a long time not in a guild, and has been dbed I most certainly would have seen you at some point. As for the statement about the truth I was out of line there, however I really don't see a reason for you to try to defend something that is about a anonymous server

valhallaknight

Quote from: Tang on Sep 08, 2015, 10:54 PM
Refuse to accept the truth? Who are you to decide what the truth is? As explained above, there are situations that could lead to this without using any 3rd party tools.

I am not in any guild, I don't give a s*** about any of the guilds. I am simply a player that supports the server and I heard about this topic in #main.

Edit: this topic should be closed. It's a childish s*** flinging contest. They've implemented a new rule to deal with this, what do you want?

Yes you have a point there but as stated by Cazerack, the bard is showing a PERFECT pattern almost as if it's automatically using it. Given that you're watching a video then clicking your alch again you can't be serious on having a 20sec interval EVERY TIME you use the skill, I call this BS.

Cazerack from his previous post: "You have a valid point about playing a video, however if you were to watch the time frames on the 2nd video, it is every 20 secs. At time frame 3:07 it stops playing and at 3:27 it plays again and 5:27 it stops and at 5:47 it plays again
on the first video 0:34 to 0:54, and 2:54 to 3:14 most definitely in 20 sec interval"

rizzen

Quote from: valhallaknight on Sep 08, 2015, 11:02 PM
Yes you have a point there but as stated by Cazerack, the bard is showing a PERFECT pattern almost as if it's automatically using it. Given that you're watching a video then clicking your alch again you can't be serious on having a 20sec interval EVERY TIME you use the skill, I call this BS.

Cazerack from his previous post: "You have a valid point about playing a video, however if you were to watch the time frames on the 2nd video, it is every 20 secs. At time frame 3:07 it stops playing and at 3:27 it plays again and 5:27 it stops and at 5:47 it plays again
on the first video 0:34 to 0:54, and 2:54 to 3:14 most definitely in 20 sec interval"

Have you looked at a clock recently? Turns out, it's really good at what it does.

Tang

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 10:59 PM
We never mentioned the server in question, so why would you bother about posting it here then. And if that really is the case, who are you in the game? If you claimed to have been in this server for a long time not in a guild, and has been dbed I most certainly would have seen you at some point

As I mentioned, I heard about this topic ingame. My in-game character is Tang, I also have a biochemist named Biochem and a few other alt characters. I have been around since the launch of the server but I'm not very active in the community.

I've argued with the player in question and I honestly think he is an a****** but I don't agree with people getting butthurt and trying to start drama over such petty issues.

Quote from: valhallaknight on Sep 08, 2015, 11:02 PM
Yes you have a point there but as stated by Cazerack, the bard is showing a PERFECT pattern almost as if it's automatically using it. Given that you're watching a video then clicking your alch again you can't be serious on having a 20sec interval EVERY TIME you use the skill, I call this BS.

Cazerack from his previous post: "You have a valid point about playing a video, however if you were to watch the time frames on the 2nd video, it is every 20 secs. At time frame 3:07 it stops playing and at 3:27 it plays again and 5:27 it stops and at 5:47 it plays again
on the first video 0:34 to 0:54, and 2:54 to 3:14 most definitely in 20 sec interval"

Have you ever used a timer app for homunculus farming? They generally have seconds and I will keep focus on my RO window with a video player and the timer always on top, and the second it resets the timer I press the hotkey.


Cazerack

Clock is valid, however, I highly doubt someone would have timing down like clockwork for a few hours. If, you truly believe he is not in the wrong you guys would stop posting by now, but you still havn't and I have been asking for nonbiased replies, however all I am getting are people associated with the person in the video

Cazerack

Quote from: Tang on Sep 08, 2015, 11:08 PM
Have you ever used a timer app for homunculus farming? They generally have seconds and I will keep focus on my RO window with a video player and the timer always on top, and the second it resets the timer I press the hotkey.

now if you are focusing on RO window, with a video player. You most certainly would have noticed getting killed, however if you do say about full screen watching video and pressing a skill. Your timing to reactivate a skill would not always be so precise, but it's happening like clockwork

Tang

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 11:11 PM
Clock is valid, however, I highly doubt someone would have timing down like clockwork for a few hours. If, you truly believe he is not in the wrong you guys would stop posting by now, but you still havn't and I have been asking for nonbiased replies, however all I am getting are people associated with the person in the video

ROFL, have you ever actually farmed sharp leaves? I've spent entire days farming leaves in the past, you have no choice but to have the timing down like clock work, otherwise you wont be getting loot.

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 11:14 PM
now if you are focusing on RO window, with a video player. You most certainly would have noticed getting killed, however if you do say about full screen watching video and pressing a skill. Your timing to reactivate a skill would not always be so precise, but it's happening like clockwork

Do you not know what 'always on top' mode is? Here is a clue; it's always on top, you're able to focus other windows while your media player is still on top.

I'm done with this topic. I have no relations with the player in question but I do support the server and it's mind blowing that people can be so childish. Your lack of experience in homunculus leveling is painful.

Note to moderation: Can you please move this topic into the rant section? It's become ridiculous.

Cazerack

Quote from: Tang on Sep 08, 2015, 11:18 PM
ROFL, have you ever actually farmed sharp leaves? I've spent entire days farming leaves in the past, you have no choice but to have the timing down like clock work, otherwise you wont be getting loot.

Do you not know what 'always on top' mode is? Here is a clue; it's always on top, you're able to focus other windows while your media player is still on top.

I'm done with this topic. I have no relations with the player in question but I do support the server and it's mind blowing that people can be so childish. Your lack of experience in homunculus leveling is painful.

Tang your reaction is hilarious, almost exactly like Nomar whenever things don't go his way, I have farmed sharp leafs and I know what always on top mode is, you are quick to always assume that one doesn't, like for example assuming that we were saying a macro was changing from 2 mins to 20 secs. Quit being a hissy fit and just go please. Also again i will mention WE NEVER MENTIONED THE SERVER IN QUESTION SO WHY WOULD YOU BOTHER COMING HERE TO ARGUE IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

Nomar

#24
I wasn't gonna reply but I feel the need to address somethings. Tang I have never had a bad discussion with anybody on the server that I can recall. If I did and you were one of the few, that's some bad luck. Heck I help a ton of people who ask for advice. So I'm not sure how we could have ever had a bad discussion. On the topic at hand. I wish you could test my timing precision lol. I've been MMOing for a long time and people use timers for a lot of things. Responding robotically has become somewhat natural for me.

On a final note. I have no idea what these fools were expecting to happen. They seem to think they were gonna get a permaban on a player for a first time offense and have a nuke dropped on their home. It seems rule changes and suspensions(which was what was initially going to happen) just aren't enough for them. They need a plaque and statue built in their honor as well. I mean when the person you tried to have banned ends up instituting some positive rule changes, while you continue to whine. That's just sad. We'll just keep playing the violin behind you.

Cazerack

Quote from: Nomar on Sep 08, 2015, 11:27 PM
On a final note. I have no idea what these fools were expecting to happen. They seem to think they were gonna get a permaban on a player for a first time offense and have a nuke dropped on their home. It seems rule changes and suspensions(which was what was initially going to happen) just aren't enough for them.
And... the mask falls down, good job messing up with your facade of being not in the wrong, you just admitted to having done a first time offense. Way to lose consistency in your story. I am done, confession there.

rizzen

Quote from: Cazerack on Sep 08, 2015, 11:43 PM
And... the mask falls down, good job messing up with your facade of being not in the wrong, you just admitted to having done a first time offense. Way to lose consistency in your story. I am done, confession there.

You somehow managed to find a confession in that post? What drugs have you been taking?

Names

Disclaimer: I do not know either the defending party or the accusing party.

From what I understand: A player dual clienting is farming at les instant respawn spot with a biochemist and its homunculus. To farm faster, he uses a bard with Impressive riff on. This bard uses the skill precisely every 2 minutes 20 seconds. The homunculus is fed once in a while, which is understandable.
According to the defending party, this player is watching videos on VLC with always on top settings on, and a timer, while keeping the focus on the RO window. This way, he can hit the riff key every 2 minutes 20 seconds according to his timer's beep. This makes him competitive in getting kills on Les when multiple alchemists are present and if he's the only one, he just farms faster. Cool.

By the way I noticed that Tang seemed to misunderstand the defending parties posts on purpose to spread doubt in the accusations.

So the guy has four windows open. RO client 1 for biochemist. RO client 2 for bard. Timer. VLC. VLC is always on top. But he sees the timer. He doesn't see RO client 2 according to the testimony but it has focus. It is hidden by the VLC always on top. He doesn't see RO client 1 either. Further evidence that he doesn't see neither is he doesn't notice he was dead.
Let's say he doesn't see the timer. The timer goes beep every 2 minutes 20 seconds. His finger is ready. He immediately presses the hotkey. Wait there's a joke in the show im laughing out loud I'll be one second late! No. What the f*** the guy just got beheaded my finger's not ready! No. The finger is always ready. The finger waits precisely 20 seconds to regenerate SP. He never waits 19 seconds, the beep hasn't sounded yet. He never waits 21 seconds, or else he'll miss precious sharp leaves.

Quote from: rizzen on Sep 08, 2015, 11:05 PM
Have you looked at a clock recently? Turns out, it's really good at what it does.
Exactly. You got it right mr rizzen. His actions are on a clock.
Have you ever looked at a human recently? Turns out, it's really bad at what it does.

I semi-afk farm while watching my boy Artour's stream quite often. Here's how I proceed:
- I open twitch in popout, have it fill 80% of my screen from the left side.
- I resize the RO client to the smallest possible. I'm not home right now but it's something like 600x490. I put this screen on the right edge of my screen. (Yes I only have one monitor)
- I turn on quickcast (/q1) and have teleport skill (creamy card) in it.
- I watch my boy artour while teleporting once in a while.

Now all of this on paper seems so easy and plausible right?
Wrong.
I f*** suck at it. I forget my homun, his hunger drops to 0. I teleport halfway through a monster because I was watching RTZ too much. I miss action in-game because I switched my attention to RO for 10 seconds.
What I'm saying is a busy human can't be on point with those beeps as good as you think.

In 2015 it's so easy to use a macro on a timer. Just admit that's what he was doing, ground the guy and move on.

On a final note, I can't check through youtube but the OP should validate this information through his initial video recordings. Are the milliseconds at which the songs start always the same?

Detective Names at your service

blackwaltz

I have no idea if he used a macro or not but we're talking about 1 button? I mean seriously this thread makes it seem like it's not possible for a human being to click that one button on a set interval with a timer... What? I know there are quite a lot of macro abusers around in any server but just because it's easy to macro doesn't mean this guy wasn't legit.

I've personally been accused quite a few times and can honestly say I never in my life used a macro, it's not that hard to get the timing right. I play ro quite often with a lot of alts on a seperate laptop just hitting right mouse button to activate the skill I need. And as for not responding to PM's the dude probably gets quite a lot of PM's if his method is really effective (not sure what the point is here, never played your server). I was in a similar situation and there can really be a flow of PM's, some people just want to farm and do something else rather then just prove some random people they ain't botting/macroing. (btw I'm sure you know a homun doesn't need to be fed that often neither does he need to put s*** in his cart every 10min)

From reading this I got the vibe you just desperately want to be right and see the guy get banned even if he would be innocent.

valhallaknight

#29
Quote from: blackwaltz on Sep 09, 2015, 11:04 AM
I have no idea if he used a macro or not but we're talking about 1 button? I mean seriously this thread makes it seem like it's not possible for a human being to click that one button on a set interval with a timer... What? I know there are quite a lot of macro abusers around in any server but just because it's easy to macro doesn't mean this guy wasn't legit.

I've personally been accused quite a few times and can honestly say I never in my life used a macro, it's not that hard to get the timing right. I play ro quite often with a lot of alts on a seperate laptop just hitting right mouse button to activate the skill I need. And as for not responding to PM's the dude probably gets quite a lot of PM's if his method is really effective (not sure what the point is here, never played your server). I was in a similar situation and there can really be a flow of PM's, some people just want to farm and do something else rather then just prove some random people they ain't botting/macroing. (btw I'm sure you know a homun doesn't need to be fed that often neither does he need to put s*** in his cart every 10min)

From reading this I got the vibe you just desperately want to be right and see the guy get banned even if he would be innocent.

Yeah he sure is innocent and please ALL of us can do this s***. Even I can time this so perfectly like a freaking robot. I can time a key so perfectly that it's making a loop, neat huh?  /heh

Assassin Cross of Sunset [Song / Dance] (Skill ID# 320, iRO Name: Impressive Riff)
Stay Duration: 120 sec
Effect Duration: 20 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqIKP7nsLc : (0:34 aoe riff ends) -20sec interval- (0:54 bard uses riff) -120sec interval- (2:54 aoe riff ends) -20sec interval- (3:14 bard uses riff) then (4:25 bard dies to Dullahan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGys1jonnTg: (0:11 bard was ressurected using a yggdrasil leaf) (1:07 bard uses riff) -120sec interval- (3:07 aoe riff ends) -20sec interval- (3:27 bard uses riff) -120sec interval- (5:27 aoe riff ends) -20sec interval- (5:47 bard uses riff) -120sec interval- (7:47 aoe riff ends) -20sec interval- (8:07 bard uses riff) ~

Edit: Note that this continued on for more than 30mins AFTER he was resurrected (standing there like an idiot using his riff when his homun is clearly dead) and is still showing the loop, so yeah he's really good at what he's doing. /no1