HeroesRO

[Sarin]

If nothing can be presented by the admins or gms of this server within 48 hrs of this post, there is nothing more to debate with and i would want to forward this motion into te server reports section for further review and requests that the server be de-listed in RMS or be served with punishment in accordance to RMS rules.

There's nothing in RMS ToS that regards punishment for in-server stuff. If there is enough proof, the server/GM might be included in Hall of Shame, but that's it. For delisting, there has to be some violation of rules regarding abuse of review system or such.

For HoS listing, you should open appropriate thread. And serve us more proof.

[-Ish]

@^ thank you for the quick response. we shall provide more proof as requested. Just a quick question, does an admin asking players to write reviews to cover the negative reviews a violation? If so, i have them captured too. We might present more screenshots and a video or two about the gm pets that we're talking about. Like a sin-x doing 2k+ damage on a prof wearing cranial and Poopoo hat-like headgear and having ecoat active. do note the sinx can spam 4k+ grimtooth and never misses a high flee character. and this all happend on a server that claims that mvp cards are disabled. a video will be posted in the next few hours. please give us some time to upload it.

EDIT:

added a screenshot. please refer to the chatbox yellow messages. ill add more as soon as my guildmates send them to me or ill ask them to post what they have gotten.

[deadly2003]

So if you want to challenge me then ill do it. ALL ANSWERS ARE BASED FROM -ISH POSTS

from your first post

Would ban someone for bug abuse and lifts up the ban just because he is afraid of losing all his players (or his friends should i say?).
He would also ban someone without proof if the player is not one of his friends. And he wouldn't ban any of his friends even with enough proof.

Yup I'm afraid of losing my players. Why Would I ban all those who cheated when I can just wipe every ZENY for the sake of the server? I never ban a player without enough proof. FCKING-CHAMP is one of the players whom I caught abusing the BUG and I have many more so if I BAN them all, then my server will be like a new server with estimated 20 players max with Autotrade. Regarding the LAG how can I answer you about the lag if I don't even know why you're lagging? I Reset the server to be fresh and you're still lagging and I'm hosting in axwebsolution. So if you're lagging then it's your problem.

The GM also customized mechanics of the game to give favor to his friends.. One of which was reducing body relocation range from 15? cells to 10 so we can't reloc-dodge anymore in PvP. Also, the server claims that MVPs and MINI MVPs are disabled (cards). Well, yes the drop was disabled but the items (i mean cards) do still work if you have them..

yup i customize my SERVER bec it is my server. I reduced the range of BODY RELOC from 15-12 so you guys can't ABUSE the bug. If you said a while ago that I am biased with my friends which you claim FCKING-CHAMP as my friend which is not true because i dont even know him at all and not banning him. Then why didn't I ban you for abusing the RELOC BUG? Didn't yourealize that?

Basically, there's no economy. Zeny has value, but only to buy items in the Mall like normal items, elus, and oris. The rest of the items which are actually the ones you will need pvp-wise, can only be obtained by VOTING or DONATING. you can also obtain some by joining buggy events. That is if you're lucky to win with the bugs.

How can you say that a server has no economy when zeny has a value? Then give me a screenshot that my event are bugs. Ur just lazy to join the event that's why you're complaining. And in the first place, it is written in my site http://www.heroesro.com/home.html that there's a mall in my server. From the start, you should always read the info of the server before playing.

All i can say is that, this is the very 1st server where i saw an admin allowing certain players use cheat programs like WPE and RPE. Please do
note that he even actually advised the player to be careful so they wont get caught!

I never saw them and caught them using WPE, there's just a players who said that they [indians] used WPE in my server so thats what I told them. Plus, I banned 3 of them and SSJ4 created an account again to play in my server bec he said that he cant find a better server than my server. you can ask him for that. He founded ZidRO then came back apologizing to me


Regarding the GM Trashtalk, Why would i RESPECT you if you keep on saying things like BOBOGM[STUPIDGM] and many flaming words? I dont need proofs in RMS to prove it. I'm an admin and why would an admin print screen to have a proof? If an admin banned a player in his/her server, does the admin needs to upload its screenshot to be able to ban that player? hell no! admins dont need screenshot. you directly said bad words infront of me and that is enough for me to ban you and your friends. Also, one of your friends CHALLENGED me 1 on 1. I said, "Sure, then i gave my home address." Such act must be given a proper sanction.
If I'm a stupid GM and can't handle a SERVER, then why is my server alive and going good? why does my player keeps on donating to the server? why does my player keeps on supporting me? my players...NOT including you and your friends.
And if what you're saying is true, why didnt they help you in this topic when you spam this link in my server? all those who reply in this topic are those in your guild
and friend of yours.

Post #2 from -ish

on this thread, the player was merely asking you why a guildmate was also banned for his actions.. then you cursed him? how un-ethical can you be?

First, He disrespecetd me when I banned him for USING WPE when dropping mass items in prontera map. Dropping 10 flowers at the same time with 1 piece each
and created a CHRACTER NAMES in the screenshot below. LOOK at the IP's which makes it his Account too.
http://www.heroesro.com/images/tekaban.png

Regarding why I ban Iautum,bad3p,-Ish,crestball, disenchant, Tekaban and Yuma and many more is because you're all like a family that helps and defends
one another when 1 GOT BANNED. Addition to that, you and your friends surely will complain again and will trashtalk me for doing what I did in Tekaban and
Yuma's account. Friends WILL ALWAYS DEFEND its friend even in bad situations.

About the WPE, I answered that in my older post and if you want to read it, just look for it.

MVP CARDS + MP,GR,AR and DEVILING CARDS ARE ALL DISABLED. NO SCRIPT AND I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU AS PROOF. I dont care if they got mvp cards before I announced
that i'll be removing it because I'm 100% sure that I disabled all MVP + those 4 miniboss cards in my server. So, even if they have one, it wont work.

As you said it's a GLITCH. Based from the dictionary, it is stated that
glitch   
[glich]  Show IPA
Slang .
–noun
1.
a defect or malfunction in a machine or plan.
2.
Computers . any error, malfunction, or problem. Compare bug1 ( def. 5 ) .
3.
a brief or sudden interruption or surge in voltage in an electric circuit.

Why would I allow SUCH ERRORS or DEFECT in my server when I can fix it through reducing the body reloc range? with a range of 12, it is not that bad and can
reloc in a long range. SO WHY DO YOU KEEP ON COMPLAINING ON SUCH THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE BALANCE FOR THE SAKE OF THE SERVER?


YUP, Not all caps in writing means shouting. But from the way you talk to me, other people also told you to "speak nicely on the GM. HE IS A GM NOT A PLAYER."
From that word comming from the other players who is playing in my server also felt that way. so i think i dont need to elaborate that.

[bad3p]

lol epic answers...

ill just react on those few other comments you said..

*lol be nice on the gm? if you look up my screenshot im asking nicely.
"why is it your wipping all the zeny" and you answered back "if you dont like it here, you may leave"
so tell me is that a respectful answer? LOL. your kidding.. your a joke..

*about the relocation thing... if thats a bug,glitch or whatever you wanna call it, why dont Ragnarok devs[developers] team remove it or fix it. dont you think?

*about the WPE issue.. you never saw them.. right.. how bout us whom you ban did you saw us use WPE?

*and by the way, about that SuperBebe issue.. how come a GM plays and kills people in PVP?

* about those people who got ban from WipeOut guild.. not everyone trashtalk you.. infact the author himself didnt trashtalk you... you ban him because we wrote a review bout your server..




Posted on: Nov 15, 2010, 08:11 pmthis is the conversation, GM is being so nice to me.. someone pls translate it




gm said he is happy for banning us.. i wonder why..



He ban everyone in the guild. just like what he said..


saying that we are useless, insipid, and stupid because we didnt donate

[deadly2003]

Just to answer your reply even though you're not the one I'm talking with.

why do you keep on posting a screenshot that only shows the bad side of the GM? why don't you upload the WHOLE conversation until it reaches that point? upload it so people can review it. Screenshots that only shows the point where the GM said this and that is not a valid proof. SHOW THE WHOLE CONVERSATION!

Look at your screenshots....You keep on scrolling only to the point where it shows the bad side of the GM. what kind of proof is that?








NOTE: Please check all your screenshots before posting.

Lastly, if you want I[GM JESTER] or my SERVER[HeroesRO] to be part of the Hall of Shame in RMS, I DARE YOU Crestballs, autumn07, Bad3p, hantzsiy3, Ariba, and -ISH OR ANY PLAYER in the guild "WIPEOUT" to post a COMPLETE SCREENSHOT of ALL CONVERSATIONS FROM BEGINNING UNTIL THE END OF ALL THOSE SCREENSHOTS YOU'VE POSTED. If you can do that, then that's the only time an admin of RMS can review or judge if what you're saying it true or not. I think I've said enough.

[bad3p]

1. i scroll it. for the reason people spams..


2. thats the bottom line of the conversation . were just summarizing it..

3. why dont you post your own screen shots[and show your goodside just like your saying]
.. the proofs of cheating.. etc.. and all the accusation your throwing to us..

4. lastly, you didnt answer a single question i asked

[eyeshield]

Who were the people who were spamming?
Oh yeah, you and your friends.

And how do we know if you summarized correctly?

Let's say you're in class, and you were caught cheating. A few minutes pass by and the teacher said a few bad things about you, and you happened to record what she said. You could make up a whole new story and say the bottom line is that the teacher hated you.

So please show the complete conversation.

[bad3p]

who the heck are you now? lol.. if you have the complete conversation like your saying..
why not post it instead of saying useless sentence here.. lmfao

anyway.. what did jester gave to you? oh well that deserve a brinhild.. lOOOOOOOl

[deadly2003]

1. i scroll it. for the reason people spams..


2. thats the bottom line of the conversation . were just summarizing it..

3. why dont you post your own screen shots[and show your goodside just like your saying]
.. the proofs of cheating.. etc.. and all the accusation your throwing to us..

4. lastly, you didnt answer a single question i asked

1st, if you're telling the people and want them to know the truth. Show all your proofs with all the conversation.
2nd, as I said a while ago, Admins don't need a screenshot to prove something especially when banning a player because you did those VIOLATIONS in front of me, Not at the back. If what you did is from the back, then that's the time i need a screenshot to prove.
3rd, I don't need to put my goodside screenies. You're guild is the one who created this thread. So PROVE your thread by showing all COMPLETE CONVERSATION of those screenshots that you've posted.

CAN'T POST IT? THEN WHAT'S THE USE OF THIS THREAD? Just to annoy me? hahaha shame on you especially to the one who DARE and CREATED this thread.

[bad3p]

Point of view..

- we are not haters.. actually we love the server.. thats why we played there for almost a month.
we just dont like how the gm handle things.. it is incorrect, unprofessional,  immature and the way
he talk is offensive.. as you can see in those screenshots.


- why not post your "Whole story" or "COMPLETE conversation" your saying.. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL..
show us proof ... and show people we are wrong.. and you are right..

- if you will read the whole thread. you can see some few people who hated the management of this server..
that means, its not just us..

- thanks to rms.. for moving this thread to the server discussion..
Posted on: Nov 15, 2010, 10:56 pm

1. i scroll it. for the reason people spams..


2. thats the bottom line of the conversation . were just summarizing it..

3. why dont you post your own screen shots[and show your goodside just like your saying]
.. the proofs of cheating.. etc.. and all the accusation your throwing to us..

4. lastly, you didnt answer a single question i asked

1st, if you're telling the people and want them to know the truth. Show all your proofs with all the conversation.
2nd, as I said a while ago, Admins don't need a screenshot to prove something especially when banning a player because you did those VIOLATIONS in front of me, Not at the back. If what you did is from the back, then that's the time i need a screenshot to prove.
3rd, I don't need to put my goodside screenies. You're guild is the one who created this thread. So PROVE your thread by showing all COMPLETE CONVERSATION of those screenshots that you've posted.

CAN'T POST IT? THEN WHAT'S THE USE OF THIS THREAD? Just to annoy me? hahaha shame on you especially to the one who DARE and CREATED this thread.

whats the point of annoying.. and why would we care for you? LOL.. who the heck are you.. lmao.
thats not our intention . LOL..

why not think.. why would we post the WHOLE STORY as you said.. if we already did post the WHOLE STORY..
its been shown on the screenshot.. thats the WHOLE STORY.. and the WHOLE TRUTH ..
proofs dont lie..

Now, if you have another story.. why not share to us..

[eyeshield]

GM gave me nothing.
I'm just a player from the HeroesRO server.
And I like playing on it.

If I had screenshots I would've already posted them by now. But I don't.
But it still doesn't change the fact the you are summarizing a false account.

[Sarin]

Okay guys, stop. Now you're just throwing sh*t at each other without anything constructive. First, I'd like to ask someone who speaks tagalog or whatever that language is to translate for majority, so we can actually decide.

I've become a bit morbidly interested in this thread, something like watching a terrible traffic accident in news.

[crestballs]

Look, he is so pissed off, he used all caps fonts. Now he's the one who are not following RMS rules. Ignorant.


The ones you stated above are not proofs that will convince the whole world of RO Gaming.
This are just fraud statements to defend your side.


It also came out from your mouth.. "all your screen shots are bad side of the gm" agreed.

You suggested to remove this thread from the RMS moderators, they are not dumb like you to give you a favor.
You banned us for posting a negative review. And you and your friends in-game hate us. Coz we roll them in pvp 24/7.
Even one of your co-gm's transferred to our guild, and now he is joining us from our new server. Shame on you.


Lastly , I agree to the author of this thread. Upload all your proofs that will put this topic into trash.
Sadly you don't have any.

You

[Sarin]

Now, I find it interesting that there are already two accounts that were apparently created just to stand at deadly2003's side in this thread.

Just stating the facts.

[deadly2003]

Point of view..

- we are not haters.. actually we love the server.. thats why we played there for almost a month.
we just dont like how the gm handle things.. it is incorrect, unprofessional,  immature and the way
he talk is offensive.. as you can see in those screenshots.


- why not post your "Whole story" or "COMPLETE conversation" your saying.. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL..
show us proof ... and show people we are wrong.. and you are right..

- if you will read the whole thread. you can see some few people who hated the management of this server..
that means, its not just us..

- thanks to rms.. for moving this thread to the server discussion..
Posted on: Nov 15, 2010, 10:56 pm

1. i scroll it. for the reason people spams..


2. thats the bottom line of the conversation . were just summarizing it..

3. why dont you post your own screen shots[and show your goodside just like your saying]
.. the proofs of cheating.. etc.. and all the accusation your throwing to us..

4. lastly, you didnt answer a single question i asked

1st, if you're telling the people and want them to know the truth. Show all your proofs with all the conversation.
2nd, as I said a while ago, Admins don't need a screenshot to prove something especially when banning a player because you did those VIOLATIONS in front of me, Not at the back. If what you did is from the back, then that's the time i need a screenshot to prove.
3rd, I don't need to put my goodside screenies. You're guild is the one who created this thread. So PROVE your thread by showing all COMPLETE CONVERSATION of those screenshots that you've posted.

CAN'T POST IT? THEN WHAT'S THE USE OF THIS THREAD? Just to annoy me? hahaha shame on you especially to the one who DARE and CREATED this thread.

whats the point of annoying.. and why would we care for you? LOL.. who the heck are you.. lmao.
thats not our intention . LOL..

why not think.. why would we post the WHOLE STORY as you said.. if we already did post the WHOLE STORY..
its been shown on the screenshot.. thats the WHOLE STORY.. and the WHOLE TRUTH ..
proofs dont lie..

Now, if you have another story.. why not share to us..

WAHAHAHAHA  so now your angry with eyeshield because he defended me? oh come on baby!! please don't act like a child.

from your reply you said that

we are not haters.. actually we love the server.. thats why we played there for almost a month.

then check this out baby. I'll just REPEAT what you've said.

we are not haters.. actually we love the server.. thats why we played there for almost a month.

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=10710&itv=6&url_sname=Heroes%20of%20Ragnarok&page_num=1

YOUR FRIENDS REVIEW or should i say THE CREATOR OF THIS THREAD which says:

It is the 2nd worst server i have ever played on over my 7 years now of RO gaming life. The ADMIN/GM is corrupt. The ADMIN/GM is not fair, biased, and knows nothing about being a true ADMIN/GM. Would ban someone for bug abuse and lifts up the ban just because he is afraid of losing all his players (or his friends should i say?). He would also ban someone without proof if the player is not one of his friends. Follow full review on --> http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,17182.0.html

now, how can you say that you GUYS loved my server when your FRIENDS review contradicts what you've said?

poor little boy...you're loosing your point....