Hello Ragnarok Community,
This is a warning to new/current players that are interested in looking to join/play a fresh mid-rate server. /omg Do NOT join a mid-rate server called AbraRO released March 25, 2017 Don't be fooled by the reviews. The new players that joined that server don't know the history. Here is why...
1. The GM of AbraRO mid-rate server GM Abra aka GM Brook, abandoned his previous fresh low-rate server called AspenRO. This is unheard of and absolutely unacceptable. Here is the link to his previous low-rate server opened not too long ago early this year. http://aspen-ro.com/ (http://aspen-ro.com/) The GM immediately deactivated his low-rate site after I posted this review.
2. Greedy GM that likes to make money off the players
3. GM Abra aka GM Brook, also is not active (He says he is, but is bunch of lies) and does not reply to the player's @request messages, in forums and messages.
Your money/time invested will be wasted if you join AbraRO. You have been warned. /x
/? Are you on drugs? We are being claimed of many other servers so yeah another one. You haven't been on our server, we updated every day go check the forums, we reply faster than a mood swing. /no1
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Whoever you are..stop trying to give out false/scam information out to innocent people, it ain't working. I'm assuming you're GM Abra aka GM Brook. I give you this much, you got the ballz to promote your server by posting a link to your mid rate server site after abandoning your previous low rate server. Are you on drugs? /heh What a typical childish uneducated response by a 3 year old. You might want to re-check yourself and ask that question to yourself in the mirror, you clearly don't know anything period. Have you played on AspenRO? Yea, that is what I thought. If you did, you would know what I'm talking about. Oh and if you happen to be GM Brook hiding behind that comp and trying to defend your server by responding gtfo, cause you clearly know what you did was wrong and disappointed all the players on your previous fresh low rate server AspenRO by leaving. Abandoning your previous fresh low rate server and leaving all the players behind that worked hard leveling/donated money to help run your server and you run off and make a new server? Wtf man, really gtfo.
So....GM Abra aka GM Brook decides to shut down his low rate server site after I post this. Odd isn't? Stop your b**** and admit what you did was wrong.
Here is the link to his low rate server site which he opened not too long ago: http://aspen-ro.com/ (http://aspen-ro.com/)
Let's see if you got anything to say to this you coward.
(http://i.imgur.com/mNR8S1S.jpg)
Easy enough to check.
It's not definitive evidence and could be a coincidence of course, but eh.
There you go. Enough said. Don't be fooled by the reviews. GM Abra = GM Brook.
Fake azz busta is what he is.
Gee. I wonder who could be behind this server. It has the same files of the ONCE I've played before.....
Spoiler
Case
Once
Talis
We don't owe any explanation to you, we are more focus on server's update :) /no1 try the server today :) http://www.abra-ro.com (http://www.abra-ro.com) See it yourself and see if this person's all talk is true about us being inactive and no updates :) read changelog http://www.abra-ro.com/forum (http://www.abra-ro.com/forum) IP posted above? A lot of RO servers uses the same company of hosting domain. That's a Domain IP lol not server's IP. If you have the same domain company you'll have the same IP, maybe learn more? #YouNeverStrikeMyNerves :)
PS: This would be my very last reply to this and if more post :)
Without sharing data on my end which has the whole story, I'll just look around and point out some public information.
These formatting and images do look similar isn't it? I hope they won't get a new edit date after my post.
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/abraro-l-fresh-9970-midrate (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/abraro-l-fresh-9970-midrate!-l-march-25-2017/)!-l-march-25-2017/
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/aspen-server-10105-9970-trans-l-february-2017 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/aspen-server-10105-9970-trans-l-february-2017!/)!/
I was looking into this and the server already has too many red flags. Sad, but Ben is correct.
If you also click on the server forum links that yC has provided, you can also see that both
Abracadabra/GM Brook are the same person because their forum status ranks are the same "Morroc Trader".
The rank is based on the number of posts they made in the forum, not related to anything.
I mean at least cancel your hosting plan and buy a new separate one if you're trying to hide the fact that it's the same team.
I enjoy trainwrecks like these:
forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/aspen-server-10105-9970-trans-l-february-2017!
forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/abraro-l-fresh-9970-midrate!-l-march-25-2017
The exclamation marks ruin the URL embed in RMS so just copy paste them.
And lastly, really? Unheard of? So many servers do this sort of thing it's hilarious. It's a big part of why the RO community gets such a bad reputation.
Check the Hall of Shame. Most people documented in there opened a new server every couple of months.
We already know that the server is bad news /ok
Whelp, I spent 3 days there and thought it was good. But then they implemented AHKs because of "demands" from WoE players and that was sort of a red flag for me. Now this. @.@
Yes, well I played on all these servers and frankly I don't care if it is Yrvine/Brook or whoever is behind it. Let me be clear on each one of these including Abra I found real entertainment. They were running a much closer emulator to pre-renewal as the custom Rathena one, which is based mainly on Renewal and have barely knowledge about pre-renewal. They even did change some core functions which ethical wasn't correct. You stay away with your dirty fingers changing a game already finished. It is no problem to give a server owner a choice but you just don't change core functions.
Rathena is an unethical emulator concerning Pre-Renewal, if I can avoid it, I will for sure.
If he tries again after this one I will probably be on his server again just because it is so much closer to pre-renewal and so much more fun to play. No hard delays, no renewal boosted t MVP's. Whatever he runs it is far superior above Rathena if it comes to Pre-Renewal.
Is he there for the bucks only? No, I don't think so. If I hire someone to do a job for me I pay average 80$ an hour. Something Streetlife losers can't even imagine. Don't play a game if you don't have $. Search a job develop yourself IRL first. OR just be grateful you may play some for free. A server does cost money, developing cost time. Time is money. This guy deserved any penny I gave him, though we have arguments about it. I am sure he has interest to balance things but he made himself a prisoner of the current 3tpartyusers WOE scene with their ridiculous demands. He shouldn't. I would pay his server for 3 years to get rid of those crap players who pretend they are the competitive WOE scene but in fact most of them are a lazy bunch of cheaters who would be smashed all over the place in a real WOE without support of 3thpartytools or bots. No real WOE player would see a challenge in them, they are just cheaters. Say, I use AHK. I say you are a cheater and nothing else, just a lazy lousy cheater, with no skills at all because you are afraid of a real fight without hiding behind your programs. Win or loose isn't important, giving each other entertainment that is where it is about, you don't need 3thpartyprograms for it. That is only for cheaters, it always was. There is no 2k17 pre-renewal, it stopped long time before that.
Possible he is milking this group mainly but they deserve it all. I had to leave because of allowing a 3thparty environment on the server. Openkore or AHK it doesn't matter much. They are all bots and cheaters by default. I would prefer Openkore above them even. PvM they sucked big deal except some hard workers, who should consider not to play on a server with those cheaters anyway. They are a virus scaring every legit player away and mainly responsible for killing Ro.
Server owner like this make other pvt server reputation gone bad..i hope others will know about this so they wont ve cheated
Quote from: Styx on Apr 20, 2017, 05:36 PM
Is he there for the bucks only? No, I don't think so.
lmao weren't you the same guy who said something similar for Yrvine's previous servers? (Case, Talis, Once) (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_bxwwlz0_1.png)
Quote from: Styx on Apr 20, 2017, 05:36 PM
This guy deserved any penny I gave him.
Hello. I must disagree. Yrvine's modus has always been "do enough work until I make a profit then ignore the server". Once the donations slows down, he stops putting in effort whether it's to attract more players through updates or to keep his current ones happy. What he does though, is to hold "double donation point" sales usually a month or two before the server lease expires.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 20, 2017, 05:36 PM
Is he there for the bucks only?
Yes, yes he is.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 20, 2017, 05:36 PM
I would pay his server for 3 years to get rid of those crap players
But then he would be your slave insted the "fake woe players'" that you hate so much, judging from your post.
Quote from: yC on Apr 02, 2017, 11:25 AM
Without sharing data on my end which has the whole story, I'll just look around and point out some public information.
These formatting and images do look similar isn't it? I hope they won't get a new edit date after my post.
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/abraro-l-fresh-9970-midrate (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/abraro-l-fresh-9970-midrate!-l-march-25-2017/)!-l-march-25-2017/
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/aspen-server-10105-9970-trans-l-february-2017 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/aspen-server-10105-9970-trans-l-february-2017!/)!/
Well noticed /no1
Quote from: TheRealProverbs on Apr 20, 2017, 11:45 PM
Hello. I must disagree. Yrvine's modus has always been "do enough work until I make a profit then ignore the server". Once the donations slows down, he stops putting in effort whether it's to attract more players through updates or to keep his current ones happy. What he does though, is to hold "double donation point" sales usually a month or two before the server lease expires.
You don't decide for me, you took drugs lately? This is my own right to make this choice and, I am aware of the pattern though but he offers something not many servers do offer, majority just run the Renewal based one with all problems coming next. Same thing happens there also, they shut down after a few months, there isn't much difference here really.
He just offers a better emulator, that's worth something even if it is just for a few months.
Quote from: TheRealProverbs on Apr 20, 2017, 11:45 PM
Yes, yes he is.
I take notice you say that but it is just a statement with lack of proof. I have quite some experience with Pservers around and he is more active then average and does respond.
Most just don't do that even.
Quote from: TheRealProverbs on Apr 20, 2017, 11:45 PM
But then he would be your slave insted the "fake woe players'" that you hate so much, judging from your post.
I don't have slaves, I don't want them and I don't hate those players. It is all between your own ears really.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
He just offers a better emulator, that's worth something even if it is just for a few months.
Yrvine uses the same towns, same features, the same donation items (which tend to keep getting better every month) from his previous servers. He proceeds to build his server for a couple months, even pretends to hire a couple in game staff (which he is lowkey multi-clienting ) and finally when people realize the grand scheme of things and stop donating, he randomly abandons the server and waits for it to completely die, before he completely shuts the server and starts the entire process again, with a new server name. Yet y'all out here on a yearly basis trying to preach him lmfao
You're the perfect example of a cancerous 'from-time' RO player. Not only are you used to the constant series of unfortunate events from yrvine servers but for some ludicrous reason, you like it. With that being said, you have a wild thought process. A thought process which includes you thinking that other players would like to play such a server for some godforsaken reason, but I can assure you that you're highly mistaken fam. So I suggest you stop giving potential players the wrong idea about a server, which based on previous incidents, is destined to fail and fall.
(http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/vzkq30L.png)
actually, i played on abra for a couple of days since my brother happened to be playing ro and i decided to join him for fun. it's definitely not the bad everyone is making it out to be, but it's definitely not what i would consider good either. it's just your basic server with the basic features which incite and centralize pvp and the lategame mvp strats, nothing out of the ordinary. the donation currency is actually pretty easy to get by playing and it looks like there wasn't even much work put into the donation aspect of the server, so to say the guy is doing it for money is either calling him dumb or being wrong
yeah, the gm is a lamer, i can tell from a mile away with my two interactions with him. what you people fail to understand after 10 years though is that it doesn't matter. if you want to talk about a server you deal in facts about the server, not hearsay like a bunch of amateur politicians. "this person is bad therefore everything this person does is bad" is a logical fallacy and implies intention always lines up with action, which is almost never the case.
Quote from: Kris on Apr 21, 2017, 08:52 PM
Yrvine uses the same towns, same features, the same donation items (which tend to keep getting better every month) from his previous servers. He proceeds to build his server for a couple months, even pretends to hire a couple in game staff (which he is lowkey multi-clienting ) and finally when people realize the grand scheme of things and stop donating, he randomly abandons the server and waits for it to completely die, before he completely shuts the server and starts the entire process again, with a new server name. Yet y'all out here on a yearly basis trying to preach him lmfao
You're the perfect example of a cancerous 'from-time' RO player. Not only are you used to the constant series of unfortunate events from yrvine servers but for some ludicrous reason, you like it. With that being said, you have a wild thought process. A thought process which includes you thinking that other players would like to play such a server for some godforsaken reason, but I can assure you that you're highly mistaken fam. So I suggest you stop giving potential players the wrong idea about a server, which based on previous incidents, is destined to fail and fall.
(http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/vzkq30L.png)
Did you never notice the difference in emulators around Kris, or is it that it due you using 3thpartyprograms that you don't notice the difference anymore?
Suppose it is the same person behind all those servers, they didn't die faster as any other around.
The only thing that matters for me if he gives me entertainment and he did. That is the only reason I would donate for anyway. Spending time having a good time.
On all these servers I was aware the guy behind it was working pretty hard to keep it going, that's my experience. His servers mostly went down due the demands of the population.
He didn't want AHK but he gave permission because a demanding "majority" on the forum wants it. That is the only mistake he makes, he want success with pop on short terms and should go for the long term. There are more players around that don't like to play with or against 3thpartyprograms then the relative small amount that is trying to put pressure on any server where they land.
Then last but not least, donating is a choice you don't have to donate at all and certainly not on this server as poster above stated already. I got a reasonable amount of coins through PvM mainly because AHK users are lazy and mostly trying to generate zeny with abuse and preferable AFK. I think I have gathered around 80 coins which still are in stock.
I didn't leave because of him, I did leave because I don't like to play with a bunch of 3thpartyusers who are able to come with new cheats almost every day and certainly I wouldn't donate to keep their server up. No server ever survived that community for more then 6 months.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 20, 2017, 05:36 PM
They were running a much closer emulator to pre-renewal as the custom Rathena one, which is based mainly on Renewal and have barely knowledge about pre-renewal. They even did change some core functions which ethical wasn't correct. You stay away with your dirty fingers changing a game already finished. It is no problem to give a server owner a choice but you just don't change core functions.
Rathena is an unethical emulator concerning Pre-Renewal, if I can avoid it, I will for sure.
If he tries again after this one I will probably be on his server again just because it is so much closer to pre-renewal and so much more fun to play. No hard delays, no renewal boosted t MVP's. Whatever he runs it is far superior above Rathena if it comes to Pre-Renewal.
I feel like I should clarify a few things for you. That rAthena is a closer emulator to pre-re than the Hercules emulator. The original game did have hard delays, adelay was something implemented later. Lastly, if you continue participating in these servers they'll continue to occur with the same results. So if
you personally enjoy playing on a server for a longer period of time and
you enjoy a slow growing community, then why on Earth would you continue supporting them? For sake of disagreeing with a few people on an RMS forum thread? Or are you simply stubborn and so ill informed that you cannot find a better server or find some other game to play until one that fits your ideal description of a good server to open up?
Oh yea one more thing, I've seen you in other server forums arguing/debating with Kris(this would be the 3rd location). When are you going to learn that you should never feed the trolls?
Quote from: Bottles on Apr 22, 2017, 03:02 PM
I feel like I should clarify a few things for you. That rAthena is a closer emulator to pre-re than the Hercules emulator. The original game did have hard delays, adelay was something implemented later. Lastly, if you continue participating in these servers they'll continue to occur with the same results. So if you personally enjoy playing on a server for a longer period of time and you enjoy a slow growing community, then why on Earth would you continue supporting them? For sake of disagreeing with a few people on an RMS forum thread? Or are you simply stubborn and so ill informed that you cannot find a better server or find some other game to play until one that fits your ideal description of a good server to open up?
Oh yea one more thing, I've seen you in other server forums arguing/debating with Kris(this would be the 3rd location). When are you going to learn that you should never feed the trolls?
I don't agree with that at all. rAthena is based on Renewal, they made a possibility to get backwards to pre-renewal but it is still based on Renewal. Their knowledge is mainly there, on Renewal. The early versions were closer to pre-renewal till they decided to tweak some core functions because they believe Gravity forgot to do them. That's where the unethical choice comes in. They didn't give an option with their view on it, they just changed it. Hercules is a different story their developers don't mess around that much with core functions and stay much closer to original pre-renewal which isn't iRO-Classic btw. If I play a server I will know in day if it is closer to pre-renewal or just a standard latest rAthena version, which will have hard delays and those hard delays are very different from the ones you are referring to.
It's my choice to support whoever I want to support for my own reasons. I don't need other opinions to make up my mind. I know what I am doing and why. If someone runs a nice server with good settings, why the hell would I mind to throw in a few bucks and maybe it stays up some longer. I pay for my own entertainment only not yours. Certainly I hope he will try again after the current so called competitive WOE scene have blown up another server. He just runs a better emulator and if you don't recognize it, you don't know pre-renewal as it should be.
Well Kris, I don't know him personal and don't agree with all he says but I take him serious enough to take notice of what he says and consider it. I don't see him as a troll.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 22, 2017, 04:51 PM
I don't see him as a troll.
Is this trolling?
Tbh feeling over server which claims ingame 500 players but it barely reaches 40 real people can never be really pleasant i guess ..
Quote from: Styx on Apr 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
I take notice you say that but it is just a statement with lack of proof. I have quite some experience with Pservers around and he is more active then average and does respond.
Most just don't do that even.
How am I supposed to have proof if the servers of his are down already? It's not even worth to compile all the proof from all his past servers. A simple RMS forum search would do. There's a reason why just the term and hint of "yrvine" on a server makes a lot of people wary.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
I don't have slaves, I don't want them and I don't hate those players. It is all between your own ears really.
You took my statement out of context so I'm gonna assume you're not thinking straight.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
You don't decide for me, you took drugs lately? This is my own right to make this choice and
I never imposed any ideas on you nor did I touch upon what you can do or not. When did I ever tell you to do something? Again, context was lost from your blind anger and ego.
You just can't handle people disagreeing with you that's why you go all toxic and defensive even when there is 0 reason to.
Have fun in yrvine's server.
for 3 months
lol
I tell something from my own experience.
If you consider this as toxic and defensive it just tells something about your own approach and how you handle things.
instead of cutting out phrases to respond on, if you don't agree just give your own view based on your own personal experience.
I already had my fun on this server and frankly I don't care if it is the person you think it is.
My interest is more in the emulator used, though he was and still is very active and does answer but maybe he doesn't like you and don't want to talk to you.
Quote from: kiwikac on Apr 22, 2017, 06:08 PM
Is this trolling?
Tbh feeling over server which claims ingame 500 players but it barely reaches 40 real people can never be really pleasant i guess ..
IDK, I didn't start about trolling. IDK about the numbers of players present either but yes he did allow botprograms so it's possible.
Though I hope he will have succes and keep them busy there for a very, very long time.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 22, 2017, 12:19 PM
His servers mostly went down due the demands of the population.
I don't know what rock you've been living under for the past 5 years (time frame of his previous 3 servers), but if that's the reason you think Yrvine's servers went down, you just lost all credibility.
Quote from: Styx on Apr 22, 2017, 12:19 PM
He didn't want AHK but he gave permission because a demanding "majority" on the forum wants it. That is the only mistake he makes.
this is out of topic i guess, but i would like to point that a server owner should not do all what the population says.
he must kinda think the pro's and con's before implementing anything or adding a new feature. because in this industry a single error can make the server die instantly.
that's all.
so i guess it was his mistake listening to the population.
no hate here. peace! :)
how are ya'll still ranting about yrvines servers? At this point, just donate some f*** money and play *****RO. At least your progress won't be lost.
If you want more, at least find a stable server to set up base and then branch out to other servers.
Also, if in 2k17 you still don't realize Yrvines servers are going to die within a few months, you're a lost cause to humanity. Well then again, it is the same retarded RO community that plays his servers again and again.
It's honestly sad to see RO in such a s*** state.
Quote from: spamboo on May 23, 2017, 05:49 PM
this is out of topic i guess, but i would like to point that a server owner should not do all what the population says.
he must kinda think the pro's and con's before implementing anything or adding a new feature. because in this industry a single error can make the server die instantly.
that's all.
so i guess it was his mistake listening to the population.
no hate here. peace! :)
You are all correct, though I understand his choice also and for that matter it doesn't matter if he makes an error, they will come back to him because he can deliver it. Keep in mind that 3pp players, are in basic depending players.
New update brings you Robo Eyes [1] (+1 dex) lmao :D :D :D spend some time here playing and farming and pvping, but after this update just npced all eq and quited... biggest bs... during woe player cap 690 people, after that people can't connect either getting DS ... half server runs with afk fake merchants... population aint such how it shows...
Quote from: Malfis on Jun 04, 2017, 06:54 AM
New update brings you Robo Eyes [1] (+1 dex) lmao :D :D :D
+3 all stat headgears coming soon in the next update (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/IMG_6868.png)
I thought this server died already.
It's dying. Gm is so inactive. There's only 1 guild WOEing. And I'm pretty sure the 600+ population only has more or less 60 active players
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/once-ro-2k16/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/once-ro-2k16/)
lol every one of yrvine's servers has fake venders on some fake map
y is this not common knowledge yet
I tried the server for a few hours, and asked about WoE and got a response that it was dead. 600+ players and not a single player bging, hrmmmm. I mean, if you wanna fake your population count, at least make it believable.
Last server update was at the beginning of June, the GM stopped giving a f***, and is waiting for the server to completely kick the bucket, while raking in those sweet sweet donation bucks.
just wanna say less than a month is not a long time between updates.
Quote from: Yuzo on Jun 25, 2017, 07:57 AM
just wanna say less than a month is not a long time between updates.
Unless they get spoiled by weekly updates.. (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv224/SoebyART/aubreywithdachicken.png)
how is yrvine still not inducted in the wall of shame (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/q7n7s7m.png)
QuoteWe are under a huge maintenance due to a security reasons. We will be back. Stay tuned for further announcements.
Heh, it has said that for what, one week now?
Quote from: Evin on Jun 30, 2017, 01:08 PM
Heh, it has said that for what, one week now?
Think the website and game server is still available though, just no the forum.
But there is also no notification or explanation from the server owner on facebook or other social medias regarding this issue.
Dunno though if he has some sort of information popping up when you log into the game.
Heard some people started leaving. The forum still not back up yet. Is there even a mid-rate that's still alive? :/
I played AbraRO for a while when it started, never seen a party for abbey 3 actually going, I don't think there's anything else needed to be said about the overall quality of the server.
As for running midrates, EstlandRO is still up, and has been for a few years I belive, it doesn't have too many people playing, but as usual summer came and new people have started appearing.