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Offline billyboebob

SN questions
« on: Dec 08, 2008, 03:51 pm »
okay well i just started up again like 5 days ago and i'm playing a low rate server so i can't really test much.

but i was wondering what slot super novice goes in for cards...like when it has bonuses for first jobs. since super novice has mostly all first job skills would it or could it count as all those slots? or do you need to have a skill from that job to count? if so would only one work for you to be counted for?

i haven't started my super novice yet so there is no rush in finding an answer.

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Offline Orange

Re: SN questions
« Reply #1 on: Dec 08, 2008, 05:18 pm »
Could you post what type of SN you are? Caster?

Most go for either + HP things, such as pupa, + flee things such as whisper and/or +dex/int things(for caster SN's) such as drops and isilla
:3

Offline billyboebob

Re: SN questions
« Reply #2 on: Dec 08, 2008, 05:47 pm »
yeah i will be caster no doubt.
but i was wanting to know if the cards that give bonuses for like mages if they will give for SN since they have mage's skills.

Offline Orange

Re: SN questions
« Reply #3 on: Dec 08, 2008, 07:00 pm »
No... Mage bonuses apply to mages etc...
:3

Offline billyboebob

Re: SN questions
« Reply #4 on: Dec 08, 2008, 07:03 pm »
do you have hardcore evidence to back it up.
i.e. do you have a super novice and have tried to gain a job bonus (mage,etc)

Offline bleu

Re: SN questions
« Reply #5 on: Dec 08, 2008, 08:46 pm »
No... Mage bonuses apply to mages etc...

This is correct. For example:


Aliot card
{ if(BaseClass==Job_Swordman||BaseClass==Job_Merchant||BaseClass==Job_Thief) { bonus bStr,2; bonus bMaxHPrate,5; } if(BaseClass==Job_Mage||BaseClass==Job_Archer||BaseClass==Job_Acolyte) { bonus bInt,2; bonus bMaxSPrate,5; } },{},{}


Quve card - part of the Super Novice/Novice card combo
{ if(BaseJob==Job_Novice||BaseJob==Job_SuperNovice) bonus3 bAutoSpellWhenHit,"AL_INCAGI",1,100; if(isequipped(4193)) { bonus bMaxHP,300; bonus bMaxSP,60; } },{},{}


Just observe the scripts. If Super Novices were meant to benefit from an Aliot card, it would specifically include "|BaseJob==Job_SuperNovice|" as shown in the script of Quve card.

Offline Poki

Re: SN questions
« Reply #6 on: Dec 08, 2008, 08:52 pm »
Bleu basically just presented this hardcore evidence straight up.  :)

Offline Orange

Re: SN questions
« Reply #7 on: Dec 08, 2008, 10:02 pm »
do you have hardcore evidence to back it up.
i.e. do you have a super novice and have tried to gain a job bonus (mage,etc)
A supernovice is not a mage. That is sufficient evidence.
:3

Offline billyboebob

Re: SN questions
« Reply #8 on: Dec 09, 2008, 02:06 am »
yeah thanks bleu and i know this is true it was more of finding just a hidden addition that gravity doesn't really tell anyone about. orange seems to be positive that it is not but yet seeing that a super novice and a mage don't have the same skills other than super novice having all the other first class skills they can be just about the same character. if you don't see it that way i'm sorry i don't think i could explain it in much of a different way for you to understand.

Offline Littlechan

Re: SN questions
« Reply #9 on: Dec 09, 2008, 04:38 am »
yeah thanks bleu and i know this is true it was more of finding just a hidden addition that gravity doesn't really tell anyone about. orange seems to be positive that it is not but yet seeing that a super novice and a mage don't have the same skills other than super novice having all the other first class skills they can be just about the same character. if you don't see it that way i'm sorry i don't think i could explain it in much of a different way for you to understand.

no they can't :)

different max job level

different bonus status / job level

and different strategies to play! :P


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Offline Guest

Re: SN questions
« Reply #10 on: Dec 09, 2008, 09:37 am »
xD poor super novices

as for the novie secrets as i call them, most haven't been coded by eA so a lot of them are missing / not working properly X.x