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Offline Leamee

Hey guys,

I plan on making an SL and that's mainly why I wanted the shields as SLs can't equip Orle Serv (etc) but I also thought that it could help my HP out a great deal as batho+ valk shield is a great combo for damage reduction.
I might also get odin's blessing if I ever plan on taking care of my Knight again but that's another story.
Again, I only do PvM and will use the shields on my HP and SL so cards like Alice aren't exactly an option.
No, I don't want to attempt +5, it's a ridiculous idea given that I managed to buy these shields for a good price but that I won't be able to get more of them for a long time, unless I'm willing to pay a lot of money as this was a one-time sale.
Cards that I have:
1st shield candidate:Thara
2nd shield candidate:Hodremlin (-15% everything)

Cards that I'd like to have:
3rd shield candidate for HP: Khalitzburg

Basically that's why I wanted to get 3 of them instead of one. I might drop stone buckler + other elemental damage reducing cards but right now for PvM purposes (Abbey, Anywhere, Chivalry, Kiel 1) these cards seem to be a good choice.

IMO Valk shield is THE best shield for an SL as SL is kind of a melee-magic char. I had a valk shield once on an SL (don't even know if I had put a card in it at the time) and I just loved it. I know that the def isn't great but heck, damage reduction matters a lot to me, and -20% shadow for HP is a blessing.

So please post suggestions!
« Last Edit: Jun 09, 2011, 05:25 PM by yC »

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Online Sarin

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 15, 2011, 06:09 PM »
If you don't mind switching and can get these...Executioner, Mysteltainn, Ogretooth. Three cards, and they give you 25% reductions against all monsters in RO, since each give +25% resist against certain size.

Offline Leamee

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 15, 2011, 06:31 PM »
While these cards would be perfect, since I'm on a lowish rate (0.35% drop card) I don't think I'll be able to get them.
Do you know of any other cards that would be good for HP/SL?

I can very easily solo all the mini-boss swords + bloody knight without pots with my WS, but I'd have to be really lucky to drop a card as these monsters are camped and 1 out of 266 isn't much let's be honest.
That said few people go to gefenia because the map is just a nightmare for any non-melee chars, and since it's one of my "let's drop some good stuff" places, I may just get the card one day.
I'm talking months, not days or weeks, though.


Online Sarin

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 15, 2011, 06:34 PM »
I'd probably go for Hodremlin, Alice and Thara then. Hodremlin as general purpose, Alice when facing boss monsters, and thara for PvP.

Offline Leamee

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 15, 2011, 07:08 PM »
You're right, I'll probably keep hodremlin. While it's not such a wonderful card - jack-of-all-trades and master of none - it's worth 8M in our serv and I was lucky enough to drop it very quickly while leveling in rachel dungeon (had a hard time dropping vanberk though, got hodremlin first, then gremlin, then isilla, and was forced to buy my first vanberk but dropped the second one - go figure).

However, as I stated in the first post, I don't PvP/WoE, so I'm still not sure about thara. I do kill a lot of demi-humans though, so I guess that putting thara in one of the valks isn't going to hurt. Do you think it'd be worth it solely for Kiel 1 and GH Chiv? There's absolutely no way I'm joining a guild though.

My HP will be all vulnerable if I don't get khalitzburg and that worries me a little bit. She's sort of retired but as I need an insane amount of tidal shoes (about 65-70 for 4 guaranteed +7 with my luck as I have 4 cards that you can put in shoes) I'll have to farm in abbey. I could do it with my WS but I'd lose tons of money and my HP is only level 97 so it makes sense to use her instead of a maxed-out char.

Alice would be nice for a full-geared melee char who wants to attempt thor, but I doubt that it'd be any good on an SL or HP. I thought about sending my WS to Thor but I'd rather gear my Sniper to drop there because a non-geared sniper with no resist cards can still kill one or two monsters without dying even with a weak DS, however a WS would need welding mask, the fire reduction skill, lucius armor (possibly slotted), raydric/pasana/jakk and alice to even stand a chance, and I doubt that even such a well-geared char could kill a kasa without a priest or a lot of potions. Plus WS cost a lot of money, and that's mainly why I only kill monsters that give a lot of $$$ for pleasure (AK etc) because CT-ing in abbey isn't exactly cost-effective.

By the way, you *can* take out a card out of an equipment in our serv and a GM told me that even if there was a warning message there was no chance of breaking a piece of equipment or losing a card, and I've never heard of someone who broke something. However, it *may* fail which means that you'll lose about 30K + a star crumb (the chances that it'll fail increase with the rarity of said equipment so valk shield would be a hard one).



Offline Belldandy

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 15, 2011, 08:09 PM »
I love Hodremlin :( MVP mobs hit you more than the MVP does sometimes, so if it has various sized mobs, Hodremlin is <3 since you don't have to swap instead of potting or w/e. Not to mention, pDodge element of it, though that's a bonus and not the piece de resistance.

It doesn't give 20% or 25%, but as a general card, it's very good.

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+1 Hodremlin <3

Offline mahawirasd

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 15, 2011, 08:42 PM »
1. hodremlin (goes without saying)
2. thara/khalitzburg
3. alice

the doomed sword cards are nice, but they are a bit hard to hunt... though if that's the case then alice should also be somewhat annoying to hunt unless your server has an endless well of OCAs...

if all your chars are trans anyway, i suggest getting a platinum shield for general undead resistance.

now thara works well for pvm/pvp/woe, but having a khalitz is also good because demons are more widespread than demihumans in RO... so if you're just about pvm, khalitz would be a better investment than thara most of the time...


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Offline Zereges

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 16, 2011, 12:03 AM »
Horn is also great for HP (75% LR reduction) and valk shield is best for it
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Offline Leamee

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 16, 2011, 06:55 AM »
If you're talking about Horn card, it says 35% LR damage reduction. It does seem like the kind of card one would like to put in a valk shield, but TU HPs do end up taking a lot of melee damage if their TU fail. I'm not 99 yet so my TU is a little bit shaky. That said, it's a great idea. Come to think of it, I should have bought 6 shields, I had the money for it but thought that 3 shields were enough. Oh well  :P

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now thara works well for pvm/pvp/woe, but having a khalitz is also good because demons are more widespread than demihumans in RO... so if you're just about pvm, khalitz would be a better investment than thara most of the time...
That's a hard one because I spend a lot of time in Glastheim (all levels, as even the mini-bosses are too darn easy to kill with the classes I play). Glastheim is essentially Demi-Human and or Demon, and Kiel 1 is Demi-Human and Demon too.

Platinum shield sounds really sweet but I bet that it costs a lot of money. Moreover, my SL couldn't equip it (SLs are one of the most neglected classes when it comes to equipment, they can't equip anything useful except valk shield, don't have the tidal+ wool combo and are thus stuck with awful things like shoes [1].)

Offline Nara

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 16, 2011, 04:52 PM »
A teddy card is pretty good to have. Alice is nice but I prefer putting Alice card on a stone buckler due to Alice is against boss monsters and most boss monster are large.

You may also consider getting cards for all the elemental types too. Its always useful to have a defense for them.

Offline Leamee

Re: Which cards should I put in 3 valk shields for PvM?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 16, 2011, 05:05 PM »
I bought a 4th valky shield.
Anyway, this will probably make it easier for you guys since I now have 4 shields to work with  :)
1st shield > hodremlin 100% sure
2nd shield > it's a toss-up between teddy bear and khalitzburg now.
3rd shield > I guess it will have to be thara
4th shield > big ? probably a super-duper sword card or something else that would take a while to drop. Otherwise something like dark shadow card or cornus card might work.

If I ever get alice I'll probably put the card in an overupped stone buckler (+6/+7 will do, I don't have that many elus).

Any other suggestions?