Haircolor Palette Face Smudging !!11

[Abversen]

Sounds pretty amazing, right? This is what happens on my server when I go into a haircolor beyond the default selection:



I'm sure many of you are familiar with it and I know of several servers off the top of my head that fixed the issue. I scoured the eAthena boards and though I found many topics regarding the issue, nobody really presented a working solution.

So what's going on? What's the secret to removing smudginess on the face? (spare me face cream jokes qq)

[Final]

Sounds pretty amazing, right? This is what happens on my server when I go into a haircolor beyond the default selection:



I'm sure many of you are familiar with it and I know of several servers off the top of my head that fixed the issue. I scoured the eAthena boards and though I found many topics regarding the issue, nobody really presented a working solution.

So what's going on? What's the secret to removing smudginess on the face? (spare me face cream jokes qq)

Why would you care? Stop zooming in so much, problem solved~

[Abversen]

That's a bit nonsensical, isn't it? Considering you don't have to zoom in to see the problem and that it varies from hairstyle to hairstyle, some look a lot worse.

[Final]

That's a bit nonsensical, isn't it? Considering you don't have to zoom in to see the problem and that it varies from hairstyle to hairstyle, some look a lot worse.

Personally, I've never noticed it in my life.  Also, And this is a pretty big fact but : It is a fictional game and not real life, It's data..and at that, a game.  So who cares if your face looks smudged?  Is that what you focus on in the game?  If it is..You need to find a different game lol

[Abversen]

That's a bit nonsensical, isn't it? Considering you don't have to zoom in to see the problem and that it varies from hairstyle to hairstyle, some look a lot worse.

Personally, I've never noticed it in my life.  Also, And this is a pretty big fact but : It is a fictional game and not real life, It's data..and at that, a game.  So who cares if your face looks smudged?  Is that what you focus on in the game?  If it is..You need to find a different game lol

Obvious troll is obvious. Just sayin'.

[Final]

That's a bit nonsensical, isn't it? Considering you don't have to zoom in to see the problem and that it varies from hairstyle to hairstyle, some look a lot worse.

Personally, I've never noticed it in my life.  Also, And this is a pretty big fact but : It is a fictional game and not real life, It's data..and at that, a game.  So who cares if your face looks smudged?  Is that what you focus on in the game?  If it is..You need to find a different game lol

Obvious troll is obvious. Just sayin'.

Obvious moron, is more obvious.

[Kissa]

I don't see what makes that trolling...it's true, a little smudge on your chars face isn't that huge of a deal. Sure maybe it isn't amazingly pleasing to the eye but than is any aspect of RO amazingly pleasing to the eye? It's not like the graphics on RO are meant to look like the graphics on, say, a game like Aion. If your chars face looking smudged bothers you that much than use one of the default hairstyles/colors.

[Abversen]

Not sure how you missed the trolling, it's pretty blatant. Asking for support in the support section then this person jumping in "not sure why u care lol if u care so much maybe u should quit".

>Implying I'm stressing out over this and not just wanting to know how to fix it.

Silly me thinking this section was for SUPPORT though.

[Kissa]

Well as far as I know if you yourself are just a player you can't do anything about it. If you are the server owner perhaps there's some way to script a fix for it, but I'm honestly not sure and I'm just making an assumption. I've played on servers where this happened and it was never a big deal with anyone.

[Abversen]

I hear it's more sprite related but from what I've tried, nothing has really worked. I realize it's not going to make or break the server in any way and anyone who'd actually not join over it would be someone I probably didn't want to begin with, but it doesn't change the fact that I'd prefer to have it fixed. I'm hoping some people who've dealt with this problem before and managed to fix it will see this topic and touch up on the issue, at least post how they went about fixing it.

[Kissa]

Ya I get what you're saying, guess I've just yet to come across someone who cared enough to try to fix it lol.

[LemonCrosswalk]

It happens quite often with custom hairstyles as well. I always assumed it was the Dev's attempt to make a mouth/lips on a character.

[Abversen]

It happens quite often with custom hairstyles as well. I always assumed it was the Dev's attempt to make a mouth/lips on a character.

Which is what makes me think it's sprite related. If I knew how to edit the sprites I'd just fix it myself, really.

[Final]

It happens quite often with custom hairstyles as well. I always assumed it was the Dev's attempt to make a mouth/lips on a character.

Which is what makes me think it's sprite related. If I knew how to edit the sprites I'd just fix it myself, really.

First, before you come here thinking you can accuse me of being a troll, do two things...first look up the definition of troll, no one knows what one is (I think it's those guys under the bridge), and second, look at your question and realize how stupid it is.  If your a player, then go talk to your admin, and if your the admin...learn how to run a server.  Oh and,  if you wanted real help...how about go somewhere where they offer it~ aka eA.

Second, if it's sprite related..it isn't difficult to edit if you have the time/care.

That is all.

[Green]

Oh, shush, Final.
If people didn't care about a sprite, we wouldn't be playing the game, or changing their hair, and palettes and headgears and all in the first place. Infact, why even have graphics then?
Back to text based MMORPGs for you.
Shoo.

[Final]

Oh, shush, Final.
If people didn't care about a sprite, we wouldn't be playing the game, or changing their hair, and palettes and headgears and all in the first place. Infact, why even have graphics then?
Back to text based MMORPGs for you.
Shoo.

text based...good idea!

Green your opinion, as mine, is beyond biased.  Before you shush me, think about it =]

[Green]

I simply went to the opposite extreme of your's, Final.

[SMF]

First, before you come here thinking you can accuse me of being a troll, do two things...first look up the definition of troll, no one knows what one is (I think it's those guys under the bridge), and second, look at your question and realize how stupid it is.  If your a player, then go talk to your admin, and if your the admin...learn how to run a server.  Oh and,  if you wanted real help...how about go somewhere where they offer it~ aka eA.

Second, if it's sprite related..it isn't difficult to edit if you have the time/care.

That is all.

100% troll. Some people just like looking, I think what they call "smexy" ? Having their character look nice and I can understand how that dark spot on his pixel face would bother him enough to want to fix it. As nerdy as it is its just the way it is, stop being an "e-troll" final.

[Abversen]

First, before you come here thinking you can accuse me of being a troll, do two things...first look up the definition of troll, no one knows what one is (I think it's those guys under the bridge), and second, look at your question and realize how stupid it is.  If your a player, then go talk to your admin, and if your the admin...learn how to run a server.  Oh and,  if you wanted real help...how about go somewhere where they offer it~ aka eA.

Second, if it's sprite related..it isn't difficult to edit if you have the time/care.

That is all.

Hahaha. A problem with palettes = I'm a clueless admin. Cool story bro, please tell me another.


@Serenity: That sounds about right, I'll look into it.

[Final]

First, before you come here thinking you can accuse me of being a troll, do two things...first look up the definition of troll, no one knows what one is (I think it's those guys under the bridge), and second, look at your question and realize how stupid it is.  If your a player, then go talk to your admin, and if your the admin...learn how to run a server.  Oh and,  if you wanted real help...how about go somewhere where they offer it~ aka eA.

Second, if it's sprite related..it isn't difficult to edit if you have the time/care.

That is all.

Hahaha. A problem with palettes = I'm a clueless admin. Cool story bro, please tell me another.


@Serenity: That sounds about right, I'll look into it.

Woa you are an admin? LOL I didn't think you'd seriously be one.  Since you asked for a story...There was was a...Blah...Now that would be a troll post guise!  To bad it isn't..sigh..

ANYWAYS, If it wasn't clearrrrr..This is RMS..RateMyServer..Now..who deals with..server..ish..things?  If you knew that..you might not be a clueless admin~  (Btw, this is a time for you to answer)

Troll time:

SMF, WHO THE f*** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TALK TO ME!?  I AM THE ALMIGHTY!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK TO ME AT ALL, NOW BOW DOWN TO YOUR MASTER!!! *Is zeel*

[Abversen]

Woa you are an admin? LOL I didn't think you'd seriously be one.  Since you asked for a story...There was was a...Blah...Now that would be a troll post guise!  To bad it isn't..sigh..

ANYWAYS, If it wasn't clearrrrr..This is RMS..RateMyServer..Now..who deals with..server..ish..things?  If you knew that..you might not be a clueless admin~  (Btw, this is a time for you to answer)

Troll time:

SMF, WHO THE f*** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TALK TO ME!?  I AM THE ALMIGHTY!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK TO ME AT ALL, NOW BOW DOWN TO YOUR MASTER!!! *Is zeel*

According to your logic, this entire section of the forum shouldn't exist. So, like I said. Cool story, bro. If you have any more, I'm all ears.

[Final]

Woa you are an admin? LOL I didn't think you'd seriously be one.  Since you asked for a story...There was was a...Blah...Now that would be a troll post guise!  To bad it isn't..sigh..

ANYWAYS, If it wasn't clearrrrr..This is RMS..RateMyServer..Now..who deals with..server..ish..things?  If you knew that..you might not be a clueless admin~  (Btw, this is a time for you to answer)

Troll time:

SMF, WHO THE f*** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TALK TO ME!?  I AM THE ALMIGHTY!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK TO ME AT ALL, NOW BOW DOWN TO YOUR MASTER!!! *Is zeel*

According to your logic, this entire section of the forum shouldn't exist. So, like I said. Cool story, bro. If you have any more, I'm all ears.

Yes but you see, If you were smart..and knew a little bit..you could easily go to..oh..I dont know..www.eathena.ws ...and like..ask a bigger collection of Devs..rather than a population of players and Admins.  If you must see a more specific location..here's an example! http://www.eathena.ws/board/index.php?s=dc4ece8d04f72f3c410d5a38c76cdf73&showforum=103  That..might..help..I really do not know apparently..

Looks like someone should learn some manners before he does speak.

[Abversen]

Yes, you are clearly correct. This support section should probably be gotten rid of. Why don't you suggest it then? And please, don't talk to me about being "smart", lol...

Anyway, aiming to get this topic cleaned up and ridden of all this absurdity, so bbhf was fun making you look like an imbecile.

[Final]

Yes, you are clearly correct. This support section should probably be gotten rid of. Why don't you suggest it then? And please, don't talk to me about being "smart", lol...

Anyway, aiming to get this topic cleaned up and ridden of all this absurdity, so bbhf was fun making you look like an imbecile.

Vote, Who other than me or him think I'm an Imbecile? Thank you for your time~

Who said this support section was bad?  I said it wasn't perfect for your question.  Now had you'd have been born with an ounce of wit and intelligence, This might have gone differently.  If I were to suggest anything, It would have been..oh s***..I did suggest it..Hey did I say to go to eA?  Oh..I did...Nevermind.
Now, Here's what is funny...You think you've made me look like an imbecile?  I don't see that..do you?  Or are you just saying that as defense because truly, you have nothing good to say now.  So in response, you've attempted to just..throw things at me.  Might do you good elsewhere, but here, It shall not do you anything but make you look like the aforementioned "Imbecile".

Done yet?

 Your posts were only aiming to derail.

This is a support section, I don't care about your opinion that people shouldn't zoom in so that they won't see a "blur", it's their request, so cope with it.

3 day warn, don't derail threads and if you don't feel like supporting someone in the support section, then consider not posting in this section at all.

[Relics]

From this point onward, no more derail attempts.
Any complaints, PM.

[GorthexTiger]

Don't quote me on this: but I think it has something to do with the .PAL of the hair files. I remember a while back when I was working at dRO, I was recreating sprites for alternate classes for a specific item: if a class other than the "good" class wore it: they immediately had to spam enter a ton of times to deal with the sprite error showing up.

As for editing sprites? I always heard rumors that you could do it rather easily in Photoshop.

[Abversen]

Don't quote me on this: but I think it has something to do with the .PAL of the hair files. I remember a while back when I was working at dRO, I was recreating sprites for alternate classes for a specific item: if a class other than the "good" class wore it: they immediately had to spam enter a ton of times to deal with the sprite error showing up.

As for editing sprites? I always heard rumors that you could do it rather easily in Photoshop.

Yeah I know what you're saying. I edit sprites in Photoshop a lot, I'm more or less curious to know if hairstyles have anything special to them, something I need to watch out for, but apparently not? Well only one way to find out, I suppose. And well, to test I took a .GRF from a server that I knew for absolute fact did not have this problem, tossed it into my test server environment, setup the data.ini to read it, and renamed my texture and sprite folders in my data folder. Regardless of all this, upon login the smudginess was still present. This absolutely baffled me because I know that very same .GRF of the server in question worked properly without the smudginess, I did some double checking with the data folder in said server as well as if any other .GRF's might be being read and I didn't find anything.

Obviously, something somewhere is conflicting somehow, and it's all a mess. Is it possible that the hairstyles in the actual data.grf are confliction with the ones in the custom .grf's somehow? Is there anyway to prioritize custom .GRF's so that this doesn't happen? As far as I knew it did this by default, but...yeah apparently not.

[GorthexTiger]

Is there anyway to prioritize custom .GRF's so that this doesn't happen? As far as I knew it did this by default, but...yeah apparently not.

If I recall, open your DATA.INI file, and rearrange the GRFs so that the custom one is last, and that should override any defaults. Again, don't hold me to that, I think that's just generic floating knowledge I have floating in my brain.

[Abversen]

Is there anyway to prioritize custom .GRF's so that this doesn't happen? As far as I knew it did this by default, but...yeah apparently not.

If I recall, open your DATA.INI file, and rearrange the GRFs so that the custom one is last, and that should override any defaults. Again, don't hold me to that, I think that's just generic floating knowledge I have floating in my brain.

yep, I always add it last.

[Flipsyde]

You think this is worse? Wait till you come across that one male hairstyle that makes your head bop or pop out like 3D, its hairstyle #36 in some servers