How is my vanil?

[draugadrottinn]

hey i got a vanil on LR server. he's lv 57 and got this stats:
HP:4937
SP:177
ATK:250
MATK:375
STR:72
AGI:58
VIT:65
INT:81+5
DEX:76
LUK:63

Does it good enough or should I delete it?

[Triper]

I would say that it's too low and bad on stats considering that they got 1000-1100 matk at 99 but wait until near 70 and see how it goes, you may get lucky like a friend of mine that was with near 300 matk at 60 and ended with an evolved vanil with 1300 matk at 99.

[draugadrottinn]

does it means that lv 70 the best lv to see if the vanil is good or not? it has low agi vit growth...

[Triper]

I dunno if it's but I use that as reference since hardly it will change to something that different.

And the agi depends on the use you want to do with him. If it's just pvm, it may suck to tank, if it's pvp it should be fine since the HP doesn't seem that bad but what you want it's the matk in the end so it's either good or bad.

[draugadrottinn]

well i'm gonna use him for pvm only. and it has a high dex growth, seems like useless...

[draugadrottinn]

Well now he's lv 70 with:
HP:6210
SP:220
ATK:331
MATK:500
STR:90
AGI:70
VIT:81
INT:95+5
DEX:91
LUK:73.
agi growth is pretty low, it has slow aspd and low flee :|
seems like its no promising for the flee rate o.O

[Triper]

I would remake him if you're playing a low-rate pre-renewal at this moment. He's too low in stats, you were unlucky with him

Also don't forget that flee isn't everything at pvm, if you're going for mvps, HP is also good so he can "eat" a bit more the skills of monsters that can't be dodged.

[draugadrottinn]

Yeah I'm playing at low rate pre renewal server. But for MVPs I'm gonna duo with my friend so my vanil won't be useful at all. I'm thinking to change into lif which got more promising than random vanil :S

[draugadrottinn]

Now I have a lif lv 20 with:
HP:1695
SP:157
ATK:82
MATK:128
STR:29
AGI:34
VIT:25
INT:47
DEX:40
LUK:23
seems like it doesn't good at all too :|
does it good enough or no?

[Triper]

It's too early to know since stat gain is plain random on pservers. You need to wait to at least lv 50 to see if it has a chance to be awesome at 99+evolved or not.

[draugadrottinn]

she str and agi growth is nice but sometimes her int growth didnt raise for some level til now :|

[Triper]

What I do with mines is - if INT not, at least, near 90 by lv 70, delete them. This also depends on the other factors like HP and ASPD. I've one with 1800 matk[with mc on and is a 99 evo lif] and +/- 12k HP that has just 174 aspd. That HP near 12k and the matk is pretty much the only reason for having it.

[draugadrottinn]

now my lif has this:
http://ww4.enjoy.ne.jp/~to4/hom/hom.html
somehow her int is pretty low. looks like she won't reach 110 atleast at 99 :|
does the alchemist stats affect the homunculus stats? 

[Triper]

You posted the url for the website, not for the stats. You've to upload a screenshot to somewhere for that.

Still, that website is more for official servers then really for pservers even if it's good to get a general idea of what is possible for your hom since we never know how the hom will be, stats are random at pservers.

All we can do is to +/- predict if it's possible or not if it will be good based on the fact that tons of players already got tons of homs 99 and evolved so players know +/- the average values of a good and a bad.

Vanils are good if they end with 1k+ matk.
Lifs are good with 120 or more int along high aspd[175 is already good enough, 180+ is just damn awesome; remember that aspd from hom > player].
Amistr is good with 10k+ hp and highest atk possible[it's possible to get 1k+].
Filir is good with 300+ flee and 180+ aspd[with all the buffs on].

This ^ is just to give an idea, there is always the personal preference and the like of the player, some hom can get some decent stats on other stuff and people enjoy that.

And no, alchemist stats don't affect the stat bonus you get at hom when they lv up.

[draugadrottinn]

well, now she's lv 46 with:
HP:3733
SP:337
ATK:150
MATK:180
STR:44
AGI:54
VIT:40
INT:59
DEX:59
LUK:45
doesn't different much with homun calc but seems like it would have same chance as the calc said

[Triper]

Well, for now may not be the best but still has agi and int > others[aside dex]. Worth to wait until 70 to see where that lif is going, you may get lucky with it.

[draugadrottinn]

Does she have enough int? Somehow I'm afraid this lif didnt get enough int soon and she got int under 120 :|

[Triper]

Too early to know that, just check if it's near 90 at lv70, if it's, there is an high chance of getting something good in the end. Evolution also takes his job on this. I already got +12 int from one at a lif[yes, i never though something that high would be possible too ...].

[draugadrottinn]

does mental change on pservers is different than official? I read the mental change skill description is different than the official one.

[Thoth]

a quick and easy formula. level +11 is avg stat. plus a little bit
avg at 99 is 118 base stats
the int looks good, the agi is terrible. agi is the 2nd most important stat, and should not be underestimated.
keep going and see what you get. if you hit 140 of a basestat thats really hard to get. 145 is probably the best you can ever hope for.
I would keep a vanil that hit 140 int if its other stats were good.

[draugadrottinn]

a quick and easy formula. level +11 is avg stat. plus a little bit
avg at 99 is 118 base stats
the int looks good, the agi is terrible. agi is the 2nd most important stat, and should not be underestimated.
keep going and see what you get. if you hit 140 of a basestat thats really hard to get. 145 is probably the best you can ever hope for.
I would keep a vanil that hit 140 int if its other stats were good.

well I changed my vanil with lif, seems like that vanil isn't good with low agi but average int. And I think lif is more promising for doing everything with creator as my only char