biochemist best build 99dex99int20+agi / 80+dex99int50+agi

[vlemzgwapo]

Hi guys, just wanna know how true that 185/190 aspd AD, is better than no cast AD with low aspd lets say about 181.

btw, this guide i have read on other forum.

you better not listen to them cause 99int/dex build sux  too many points used for reaching 99 dex... for what? instant cast ad? with so low aspd? it sux
heres my build imo

do you calculation with only buffs and strings?
Cast Time
0.11s w/o strings its 0.24sec (so why 99 dex^^)
Motion Delay (ASPD Based) This is important cause delay is what you face mostly
0.511s
thats equips i already have it isnt unreachable...
also you want to switch clip(1) with smokie, and feather beret for reduction 

[Fruit Pie~]

I hope to god you have an Orc Hero card, unless you really enjoy watching WoE (or this is a PVP build).

Delay is kind of moot if you do some dancing (if you move right after casting, it cancels the motion and you can cast again), but WoE is a laggy environment and in PVP it's not really needed - why are you not one or two-shotting people!? If you can't or won't do the AD dance, consider the AGI version, DPS will probably be higher that way. Otherwise, just go for the 99 INT 99 DEX version. Myself, lacking MVP cards, I'd go INT VIT and rely on Strings for cast time and dancing for delay. With an Orc Hero I'd likely just go INT AGI and absolutely hope nothing hits me (except enemy AD, that is).

[Triper]

You don't need an Orc hero card, valk armor+stala card(s)+ dark bacilum gives you all the anti-stun needed.

And this type of builds are called glass cannon build where you depend of a Devo Paladin and bragi to survive and kill at GvGs. The reduces that the creator uses are, most of the time, to make the dmg being potable to the Paladin and, even without that, for pvp it works fine, not a big problem there since if something is really high in terms of burst dmg it will kill you anyway[yeah, asura/sb edp link] and if doesn't, it will either die to ad or hom or coma plants in most of the cases.

TBH, dancing is only that good with low aspd or with skills like Bowling Bash/DS where you can cancel the animation because is not a fixed delay but rather aspd based, I don't see a need for high aspd chars since any decent bragi takes care of it.

The good thing in this "glass cannon" type of builds is that AD will never kill you so you can focus on what is matters in GvGs.

VIT builds are only viable for pure SPP creators since a pure SPP Creator can go 97/100 vit[I personally prefer the 100 for the non-curse], 150 dex, 190 aspd and SPP Spam > AD DPS.

[vlemzgwapo]

guys thx for some info that your sharing to me, btw here my stats & equip and im still not satisfied with it, although i'm doing a good dmg with those player who has semi-high / high vitality.


left side with 183 aspd 95 dex (Correction)
rigth side ( im planning to change the stats additional +1int, instead of +1 agi )

and BTW i forgot to mention , im playing a low-rate non-renewal ragnarok.

possible question: why dont stick on 100% resist stun? answer: if i stick to 100% stun, i will die in 1 SonicBlow. And also using valk armor 50% stun resist (for me) is good enough to resist some stun, cuz i can kill them b4 they caught me by 2nd sonicblow or even they make 2 sonicblow on me with stun i can still survive it, and i do change my equip depends on a situation. (this is about the RIGHT>> equipment/stats set up on my screenshot) btw filir's pinion gives -2 delay and aspd.

[Nano]

possible question: why dont stick on 100% resist stun? answer: if i stick to 100% stun, i will die in 1 SonicBlow. And also using valk armor 50% stun resist (for me) is good enough to resist some stun, cuz i can kill them b4 they caught me by 2nd sonicblow or even they make 2 sonicblow on me with stun i can still survive it, and i do change my equip depends on a situation. (this is about the RIGHT>> equipment/stats set up on my screenshot) btw filir's pinion gives -2 delay and aspd.

Well, guilds in your server must suck for not having dazzle spammers. If it is that easy to evade stun, then those woes are ez pz. Reroll sinx, faceroll them noobs.

[Fruit Pie~]

Well, guilds in your server must suck for not having dazzle spammers. If it is that easy to evade stun, then those woes are ez pz. Reroll sinx, faceroll them noobs.

Not even "them noobs" could possibly die to Sonic Blow in WoE.

Ctrl-click DPS is right out.

EDIT : Though to be fair, if everyone does have low VIT...

[nile]

I'd just like to set things straight in-case anyone reads this thread in future. 80 base dex is way too low for AD creo and doesn't work. When you have the aspd song, your aspd should be 190 with zerk pot with 25 base agi even without agi up and bless, meaning you're wasting all that agi which you could put into dex for 0.01s cast time.

With bless, no cecils, dagger, 50 dex bragi, no riff, +10 foods:
Cast Time   0.02s
Motion Delay (ASPD Based)   0.611s
=0.613

Cast Time   0.09s
Motion Delay (ASPD Based)   0.54s
=0.549

Okay, so it is higher DPS, but it would have to be a large difference to even be considered. This difference is irrelevant because you still have ~0.29s per AD vs ~0.21s optimally.

3s/0.29s = 10.34 ADs
3s/0.21s = 14.28 ADs

This is a gigantic difference which actually would be noticeable and is actually the entire point of this character - to produce massive single target DPS. Having a higher DPS without riff is not good because the speed you throw one single bomb once dispelled is almost entirely irrelevant. You'll be interrupted FAR more anyway which would negate from the benefits of this build.

There is no reason to assume that if you have bragi, you should not be getting riff.

[Astraeos]

You want 149 dex, you can make up the ASPD pretty easily with % mods. There's no reason your Clown shouldn't have Bragi, Sunset and Apples up all the time in WoE. You need to be wearing an Evil Druid (+1 INT) as well, you don't need the STR might as well fill in that INT stat and the rest in AGI if you think your DEX is sufficient.

You should always be calculating with a high INT Bragi, because you aren't going to kill anyone without Bragi anyways.