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Title: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: juntann on Apr 16, 2012, 11:34 AM
what is the best equips and stat build for spamming AD .

i already have 2 kiel , sprint set , and i have 82+28 dex . but still i see someone spams AD faster than mine .

also beelzebub card is disabled in our server
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Triper on Apr 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
A pure dps build is made based on a something +/- like this:

So the objective is to get ^ or the nearest possible.

Based on what you describe, you've low dex.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: juntann on Apr 16, 2012, 12:09 PM
thanks again triper /no1

but is it possible to get:
190aspd
149dex
max INT at the same time?
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Triper on Apr 16, 2012, 03:55 PM
Based just on gear probably not, with some other chars giving you buffs yeah, not that hard but since you're using 2 kiels and sprint set your problem must just be low dex[low aspd to cut the animation a bit can be the case too] since that's like having an ok bragi.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: fluidin on Apr 19, 2012, 08:28 AM
dex too low.

get 149. 150 is not better

just get as high int as you can. int is not going to make that huge of a difference in your dps


i'm guessing you're not planning to pvp with that though? if you're on a server where u can get 2 kiel cards, i'm pretty sure u can see gr/dr everywhere
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Attax on May 06, 2012, 09:52 AM
25agi 99dex 99int
Holy Marcher Hat with Stalactic Golem Card
Sunglasses with Stalactic Golem Card
Four Leaf Clover in Mount (or other lower headgear)
Valkyrian Armor with Marc Card
Valkyrian Shield with Horn Card
Proxy with Noxious Card
Diabolus Boots with Matyr Card
Elemental Sword with Cecil Damon Cards
2x. Orlean Gloves with 2x. Zerom Cards

^ WoE Build. with all foods and buffs you will be having 190 aspd and 149 dex, have fun.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Triper on May 06, 2012, 02:23 PM
You forgot to add a smokie access for swap.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Attax on May 07, 2012, 08:43 AM
I'm not sure if you need it for WoE:SE. I'm not using it at all and I'm fine ;)
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Triper on May 07, 2012, 12:27 PM
I like to have it just in case of misclick or to try to fix some position lag that sometimes happen.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Attax on May 07, 2012, 07:51 PM
Then yeah, orlean glove with smokie card is good vs noob champs  /wah
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: fluidin on May 08, 2012, 02:33 AM
its not just for champs. if u misclick and walk out into MS/dispel range you're pretty screwed. so a hide acc gives u the chance to make it back alive

also switch ur nox around with a jakk nyd if under heavy MS fire
Title: Re: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Thoth on May 08, 2012, 04:55 PM
Quote from: Triper on Apr 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
  • 149 dex[some say that 150 is better but I prefer 149 for easier chaining of the spam]
y you no use ahk? :o

I did some serious tests ADing cades on RMS awhile back. these results hold true for most case time skills, assuming 190 max atkspd.
if 149dex, 188atkspd has the same spamrate as 190. this requires 78% delay reduction since AD is 1 second delay.
if 150dex, 190atkspd gives a significant damage boost.  this requires 80% delay reduction.
120int bragi is usually enough for most skills up to 3 second delay, 130int bragi is enough for everything.

get yourself a vanilmirth. get my AI. eat a speed pot and call homun to have an ultra super fast moving vanilmirth. when champs approach you, hit and run as it hitlocks them. with this you should never lose to champ 1v1. the vanil will also be able to spam a rain of death in bragi.
don't know about those wierded out highrates though.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Triper on May 08, 2012, 07:03 PM
Because I'm not a fan of that. Game becomes too easy. You can just put everything in macros and wait the game do most of the stuff for you.
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: fluidin on May 09, 2012, 10:57 AM
some servers have managed to block AHK now, anyway


good champs just snap snap snap speedpot asura you anyway. i doubt the vanil will ever be able to catch him. or cloak speedpot asura. or... whatever. speedpot asura in the hands of a good player is just really difficult to escape from.
Title: Re: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Thoth on May 09, 2012, 05:11 PM
Quote from: Triper on May 08, 2012, 07:03 PM
Because I'm not a fan of that. Game becomes too easy. You can just put everything in macros and wait the game do most of the stuff for you not get carpal tunnel before age 40.
Quote from: fluidin on May 09, 2012, 10:57 AM
some servers pretend to have managed to block AHK now, anyway
fixed for you guys.

if the champ snaps, he has a delay before asura. its long enough for the speedpot vanil to reach him and start hitlocking again. he can still snap to safety probably. 1v1 the champ just isnt gonna win by rushing. if you want to beat a chemist that is doing this, your best bet is surprise cloak asura or get someone else to distract the vanil. my AI prioritizes nearby champions, so thats usually 2 champs. if you kill the vanil, nothing like lvl 5 homun resurrection spam. and although homuns won't keep movespeed after rest/resummon, they do after resurrection. neat huh?
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: fluidin on May 10, 2012, 12:17 AM

If there are ways to bypass anti-ahk protection, im not sure.... Hmm. I played on a server that had such a thing, and i
managed to get it working again by adding some sleep delay.

However it wasnt optimal at all, since my fingers were still faster. Anw, there is a certain trick to snap that i dont think youre aware of. There is a certain timing between snaps that if done right allows u to asura with no delay aft snap. It was a 0.2 and 2 sec (2 timings) respectively. I can vouch for this as i have done it personally. Relics was the one that revealed this btw, iirc
Title: Re: best equips and build for spamming AD
Post by: Thoth on May 10, 2012, 04:59 PM
pretty sure that doublesnap was bugfixed at some point. at least, I didnt have a problem with it.