Acid Demo

[soki]

Do cards that has "auto cast ____ skills, status, or effects when attacking"

work on Acid Demo or does it only work on Acid Terror?

some of the cards are listed below

Non-MVP                     MVP
Garm Baby                    Lord of Death
Metalling                      Valkyrie Randgris
Thanatos Maero            Stormy Knight
Violy
Wikibine Tres
Wind Ghost



Edit: Also i READ SOMEWHERE that AD are able to by pass Raydric
if they use Endow or Elemetal weapon (non-forge) and if it's true
then AD w/ ele can by pass Devi as well?

I know AD's dmg is base on INT so i just want to know does it matter
whether you get your INT on 10s(ex. 90, 100, 110) or
any odd number works? (ex. 92, 108, 124)

Does ASPD lower the cast delay of AD? If it does so would a few agi
and a +10MG[dop] will do the trick? to reduce some of it's cast delay
and Kiel isn't an option the damn card is donation only and it doesn't
drop in game and cannot be traded nor vend.. server is lvl 99 cap...

[Lucia Blanche]

I have played biochemist for a long time, so, here it goes:

It does not work with those cards. In fact, I don't think it works with Acid Terror either.
AD is always neutral, so no, endows won't work.
The formula is:
(0.7 * Target's VIT * Creator's INT^2) / (Target's VIT + Creator's INT).
So, it doesn't HAVE to be increments of 10.
AD is a relatively spammable skill when you have high DEX. I don't think it matters with AD.



/dork

[soki]

It does not work with those cards. In fact, I don't think it works with Acid Terror either.

It's either most people that posted it are lying, only works on their server, or you have not tried it
so here i quote some of them so you can check it out

Some creators usses acid teror...
w/ 4 stormy knight cards??
which can frost the oppenent and kill them w/ one blow..using acid demo..

Tagging ghostring allows the creator to freeze you (4x SK in a main gauche + acid terror, IMBA and overpowered)

Best way to kill a GR user on a 'Highrate', use a x4 Stormy Kight Main Gauche and use Acid Terror till he's frozen, then AD him.

any idea on how can i increase my AD damage from those who wears GR/DEVi??

I suggest a garm + garm baby combo, SK cards too. Or use pest card and cards that enables auto guard(saves your a** from 1 hit)

if you need confirmations for the quotes here is the links
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,4925.0.html
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,9138.0.html

I can find more and quote it but that's too much so i'm sure this is more than
enough

Well that's why it's a bit complicated people say yes and some say no...
I'd try it out on my server but getting those cards are too damn expensive
and there's no card remover so i really don't want to waste zeny
if it doesnt work

AD is always neutral, so no, endows won't work.

yea i know AD is always neautral it's just i read it here somewhere that in can by pass
raydric so i had to re-confirm it here's the link
http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,1649.0.html
it's the 4th down and if you guys are too lazy to click it i also quoted it here it is

Bypasses:
-Defending Aura
-Guard
-Flee & DEF
-Raydric Card if the user's weapon is non-forged elemental or endowed.
*credit to ragnawiki

See same w/ this one i'd try it out as well but i rather not
waste the zeny to buy the equipment if it wont work as well

[bleu]

Bypasses:
-Defending Aura
-Guard
-Flee & DEF
-Raydric Card if the user's weapon is non-forged elemental or endowed.
*credit to ragnawiki

The above is true if and only if you are playing on an AEGIS or official RO server. However, if you are playing on an eAthena server, this does not hold true. eA developers have stated repeatedly over the years that the ability of Acid Demonstration to bypass Raydric/Deviling/etc with a mere Bazerald (fire dagger) is a known bug on AEGIS. A bug which eAthena will not emulate. As to when and if ever Gravity will fix the bug is anyone's guesses.  

490,9,8,1,0,0x40,0,10,1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10,yes,0,0,0,misc,0,   CR_ACIDDEMONSTRATION,Acid Demonstration

// 05 element (0- neutral, 1- water, 2- earth, 3- fire, 4- wind, 5- poison,
//             6- holy, 7- dark, 8- ghost, 9- undead, -1- use weapon element)

Extracted from eA Script (Revision 13940)

I'd try it out on my server but getting those cards are too damn expensive
and there's no card remover so i really don't want to waste zeny
if it doesnt work

You could test them on RMS Test Server for free.

[Relics]

Do cards that has "auto cast ____ skills, status, or effects when attacking"

work on Acid Demo or does it only work on Acid Terror?

some of the cards are listed below

Non-MVP                     MVP
Garm Baby                    Lord of Death
Metalling                      Valkyrie Randgris
Thanatos Maero            Stormy Knight
Violy
Wikibine Tres
Wind Ghost

I know AD's dmg is base on INT so i just want to know does it matter
whether you get your INT on 10s(ex. 90, 100, 110) or
any odd number works? (ex. 92, 108, 124)

Does ASPD lower the cast delay of AD? If it does so would a few agi
and a +10MG[dop] will do the trick? to reduce some of it's cast delay
and Kiel isn't an option the damn card is donation only and it doesn't
drop in game and cannot be traded nor vend.. server is lvl 99 cap...

Do cards that has "auto cast ____ skills, status, or effects when attacking"
On the test server, which runs eAthena if you didn't know yet, acid terror carries statuses, acid demo does not.
Auto cast cards only work with non-skill attacks afaik, maybe excluding a few like sacrifice.

I know AD's dmg is base on INT so i just want to know does it matter..
The formula for AD is (0.7 * Target's VIT * Creator's INT^2) / (Target's VIT + Creator's INT).
So logically no, any number will do.. and there's no 'bonus' if you hit a certain even number or something.

Does ASPD lower the cast delay of AD?
This is weird to explain, if you have NO aftercast reductions at all then AGI won't do anything, and I tested 167 ASPD <> 195 ASPD.
It becomes very notable if you're bragi'd, at that point AGI helps a lot in speeding up throwing acids.

But to answer your question, no it does not. AGI does not reduce cast delay.. it only reduces animation delay.

[soki]

The above is true if and only if you are playing on an AEGIS or official RO server. However, if you are playing on an eAthena server, this does not hold true. eA developers have stated repeatedly over the years that the ability of Acid Demonstration to bypass Raydric/Deviling/etc with a mere Bazerald (fire dagger) is a known bug on AEGIS. A bug which eAthena will not emulate. As to when and if ever Gravity will fix the bug is anyone's guesses.  

490,9,8,1,0,0x40,0,10,1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10,yes,0,0,0,misc,0,   CR_ACIDDEMONSTRATION,Acid Demonstration
// 05 element (0- neutral, 1- water, 2- earth, 3- fire, 4- wind, 5- poison,
//             6- holy, 7- dark, 8- ghost, 9- undead, -1- use weapon element)

Extracted from eA Script (Revision 13940)

i don't really keep up w/ the news eA dev. i just play em for fun but that's cool
well that explains everthing regarding that so it doesnt work on eAthena cool thanks for
clearing that up ^^

Acid terror carries statuses, acid demo does not.
Auto cast cards only work with non-skill attacks afaik.

Hmm ok if i understand it correctly so that means w/ the card SK that

Add a 2% chance of auto casting Level 2 Storm Gust on the enemy when attacking.
Has 20% chance of Freezing an enemy when attacking.

So only the CHANCE of Freezing will work? since that's the status
and the SG part is Auto Cast so that wont work

So any card that has "chance of auto" will not work? even if it's a status
such as Lord of Death?
Add a 0.1% chance of auto casting 'Coma' on an enemy.
Add a 5% chance of auto casting 'Stun, Curse, Silence, Poison or External Bleeding' on the enemy when attacking.

LoD's effect are all status but since it "chance of auto cast"
it will not work right? becase just like you stated before

Auto cast cards only work with non-skill attacks afaik.

So only cards that would work on AT are

SK
Familiar                   Plankton                    Metaller
Hell Poodle              Ragged Zombie            Skeleton    
Magnolia                 Requiem                     Snake  
Marina                    Savage Bebe              Zenorc        

All these card that i listed above are all status inflicting
cards that doesn't auto cast it but instead like SK it's by chance
well at least from my understanding if most of those card don't
work dang that's a whole lot more complicated than i thought
and if it is lol i'll just stick w/ SK ^^                               

[Relics]

If you look at the scripts.. take stormy knight for example

{ bonus3 bAutoSpell,"WZ_STORMGUST",2,20; bonus2 bAddEff,Eff_Freeze,2000; },{},{}

if this part is in it bonus2 bAddEff,Eff_ then it works with acid terror..
Stormgust doesn't work because it has bonus3 bAutoSpell before it.

This is what i tested on the test server, I don't know if it's different for the server you play on.


what confuses me is how this weapon:
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?iname=Doom+slayer&page=item_db&isearch=Search&itype=-1
Doom slayer has the script bonus2 bAddEff,Eff_Stun,3000
the description says: Causes Stun effect to enemies by 30% chance when receiving damage.
but it still works with acid terror.
Mind blown..