Looking for a good class to BG: wizard? Leveling/Equips/ stats? (I'm a beginner)

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fluidin

no edp sb is not poison. u talked abt sinxs using earth conv right. look at the prop table. earth does 100% dmg to earth
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Triper

Good sinxs use earth or wind verters, even sometimes holy from their priest friends. SB by default is neutral except if they use elemental katars or verters.
If you want to tank them is dustiness/hode and pasana/dokebi/ed/bathory/argiope or an angeling all in a swap in time as soon as you see them.

Sandman vs earth = 100% from earth atks, is stupid but is how it works =P Aside from using it to tank jt and hide/cloak on a sin/rogue class char, it's an super useless card[yes, dokebi sucks a bit on there since 1 HD can mean KO for the sin/rogue class char].

Argiope can be cool for a team of hw+hp vs bad sinx while other stuff happen since they use poison element and argiope is a ed that makes heal be able to be used on you, it kinda works like the missing link from the bathory since each one complete them.
Here is a random quote from a guide that probably should help you:
QuoteArgiope Card: Poison Element, with this you get missing damage from people with Enchant Poison on like bad Sinx doing SB or SBK Undead and Shadow will do only half damage. Heal and all the other stuff works fine as a you had a non-elemental card on.

Bathory Card: Dark Element, with this you get miss damage from Undead element attacks and zero from Shadow. You will only get half damage from Poison attacks and 25% from Ghost so in the end it kinda works like a Evil Druid but without the Anti-Stone Curse and Anti-Frozen Effect but you can be healed!!

Evil Druid Card: Undead Element, with this you get 0 damage from Undead attacks and miss from Poison and Shadow. You will be Anti-Frozen and Anti-Provoked and Anti-Aspersio but "divine" skills like Resurrection and Magnus Exorcismus and Yggdrasil Leafs can kill you, the Resurrection things can one shot[or give big dmg in the case of ME] you when they work.
Or the tl; dr version:

Leamee

Thanks a lot for this info. So basically argiope would be better than sandman since sandman apparently sucks, though I don't think that wearing argiope is that good of an idea like you said. I don't know, since usually sin x es don't go near me because my strategy is to stay back near champs to hide asu or occupy them while they try to ruwach me to help my team kill the other players (a wasted asura on me is one less kill for the other team which is always good).
I'll probably end up getting another assaulter plate and putting a peco peco card in it, as I don't care much for freeze or stone curse resist. As long as I hide as soon as I see SG or something like that, I should be fine. I can always put ED, too.

fluidin

ed marc is enough.

switch between garments instead if u have to :/ dustiness and hode comes to mind
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Leamee

I dropped dustiness yesterday so I can try to use it but it's a gamble as I have to predict the katar's element (it could be anything but water really). So you don't think peco peco would be any good? Right now my vit is quite low so I can't tank the better asuras but I'm about to get better gear like Gpipe. Don't think that will be enough though since 2% of 26k is 500 maybe.

Triper

That's why I said "It can be" not that you would use it since more stuff to swap = more problems to act fast.

10% of something like 6000 is 600, that won't make you survive something like an asura, even if someone melee you with a luna kaligo after an asura, there are better options to use. For me a Peco Peco is just a pvm card. For asura is safety wall+quag and start to toy the champ/monk from there.
For sinxs you can always try the thing I suggest - Break their weapons with swordbreaker using quag+hd+magic crasher+safety wall yourself, if they're not using a bg weapon or something that doesn't break it's a pwned until the end of that round of bg or at least 1 less thing to worry or go pasana+dustiness and see what how it goes because if you can hide you can also safety wall yourself.

2% of something can be not much but with a lot of other gears in it can be the difference from alive to dead ofc if there are things like the pencil for +2 dex in where you play maybe I would try to get one instead of that. Faster cast is always a win on a HW.

Leamee

The pencil thing is +5 hit or something but yeah there's the combo. We also have robo eyes but it's a biatch to make (200 metal fragments, I managed to drop 7 yesterday so I'll buy them 100K/u if I have to, I have the money but not 7 hours to waste on a stupid middle headgear).
QuoteFor me a Peco Peco is just a pvm card. For asura is safety wall+quag and start to toy the champ/monk from there.
Thanks, I'm starting to understand why. If I put peco peco on (be it on my LK or on my Wizz) I'll end up with basically no def against all the status ailments which means death 99% of the time.
I won't be able to get swordbreaker sadly enough, but I can try to use something like metaling or marina (FS is actually worse than breakage here because it lasts 2 min, whereas breakage may not last as we have @repairall on our serv, we can't use it ourselves but when we die in BG it triggers the @repairall command which means that you have to break people's weaps over and over again).

Quote2% of something can be not much but with a lot of other gears in it can be the difference from alive to dead ofc if there are things like the pencil for +2 dex in where you play maybe I would try to get one instead of that. Faster cast is always a win on a HW.
I can see how it can make a difference now, thanks. Before I didn't understand but 2% of 26K is 520 is quite a lot and the average asura on our serv is 20K so that's 400. I'm not saying it will save me like you said but it can help on an HW too for other things like non-linked SB or magic attacks.

fluidin

peco2 is for devo pallies in woe. thats it rly. and even then they have to switch
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Leamee

Lol, that's why the devo pallies freeze all the time in BG. I know that guy doesn't have GR since there are like 5 on our serv, one on a Sin X that's a friend, one on a prof that's a major pain in the butt (not confirmed though but come on, he couldn't tank 5 people and asuras if he didn't have it).

Triper

Actually Profs have a sorte of easy mode to tank asuras since with a bg set+fb+energy coat+sp full+raydric+ck+thara = full tankage mode

Leamee

Yeah, health conversion right? And energy coat is a b**** too. I don't think the guy bothers with CK to be honest, but I think he even made Gpipe which is overkill if you ask me when you can tank people like that.