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Offline awesooomeHW

My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« on: May 05, 2011, 12:57 PM »
Please check my HW build and equip. What can i do else?
My english is quite weak, I know.

Level: 98
S. Rate: about 100/100/100? I don't remember.
WOE
Stats: (food +3 int, +5 dex, bless, agi)
STR: 20+13
AGI: 1+21
VIT: 15+5
INT: 99+38
DEX: 96+44
LUK: 1+3

EQ:
Ulles +8, Maya Purple
D robe +5, Marc (enchanted +2dex)
Warlock Battle Wand
Orlean Plate +8, GTB
D Manteau, Aliot
Variants
2x Orlean Gloves, Zeroms

MATK (AMPLI): 933+1623

Switch EQ:
Book of Charms +8, Thana Despero
Wool Scarf +7, Salamander
OTHER s***

Pure MATK:
Stats: (food +3 int, +5 dex, bless, agi)
STR: 20+13
AGI: 1+21
VIT: 15+5
INT: 99+51
DEX: 96+34
LUK: 1+3

EQ:
Ulles, Isillia
Silk Robe, Einthwein Crothen (enchanted +3int)
Warlock Battle Wand
Book of Charms +8, Thana Despero
D Manteau, Aliot
Variants
2x Spirtual Rings

MATK (AMPLI): 1191+1983

I want to:
- Create Book of Charms +10 with Thana Despero card.
- Buy D Boots with Amon Ra card (I'll lost 10% HP [GF] but I can survive with 5,5k HP; +1 all stats)
- Put another Einthwein Crothen (I'm lucker) to D Robe +3int
- Buy and put ESL to Ulles

What can I do to be better? I can't drop MVPs because drop chance is: 0.2%, Amon and ESL are s*** for some players, so they want to sell it.
My English isn't perfect, I hope you know what I mean.
Posted on: May 04, 2011, 12:20 am
Anyone?

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Offline Mushu

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 05:34 PM »
Your build for WoE isn't that great.. The best would be:

+5 D. Bash
Robo Eyes
Rainbow Scarf/G. Pipe
W. Battle Wand
+8 Valk Shield w/ GTB
+8 Valk Shield w/ Flame Skull
BG Warlock's Armor GR
BG Warlock's Armor marc/ED
BG Garment, Nox
BG shoes, G. Ferus/Amon Ra
Zerom Orleans's Glove
Zerom Orleans's Glove

Your pure matk build is kind of pointless as you will get status affected instantly and destroyed. If you want high matk, get mind breaker. If your server is trash, your gear might work but if the top guilds have any skill they will have at least 1-2 gypsies spamming scream to stun everyone. Your stats should be /dex+ 98, /int+ 98, /str+ 30, in that order. Also if your server has slotted midgear, DEFINETLY get Orc Hero card, put it in mid and roll your high matk build. If you are going to do that get Diablos Shoes instead of variants, if you combo the shoes with the manteua it is far superior to variants.

Offline awesooomeHW

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 07:47 AM »
I can't get cards like: GR, another GTB or Amon (I want, but for now I can't). WOE is quite small, only 2 guilds, opposite guild doesn't have gypsies so I don't use D Baci. My mid headgear is custom glasses (+1 dex, +1 int, hp/sp and combo with D Set; better than Robo) and I can't get G. Pipe or Rainbow - lower headgear is empty. BG is dead so I have only WBW. Pure MATK is just switch and I use it on PvP/PK only. I don't use one kind of EQ I'm still switching. NO SLOTED FLU/SUNS. I'll buy D Boots but I want with AR so I'm waiting. +8 EQ? For what? DEF?

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 10:10 AM »
You know what, fine. If you think you can survive with absolutely no def and vit then go for it. I doubt you OS people so I'm trying to knock some sense into yourself. Do you seriously think gypsies are your only problem? What about stun arrow Sin Xes with sonic acceleration (though you'd get OSed with that build) or status bow sniper? (Stun again). Oh, and that nice bleeding status? Unless you want to waste yet another piece of eq and get ungoliant card. PS if you're a goos player you should survive almost anything 1 vs 1 with SW but then you also need anti DH stuff. People are trying to Help you. You double posted to bump your topic so now at least be grateful. Whatever...

Offline awesooomeHW

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 11:41 AM »
I know about status. I KNOW. But it's not my problem because PLAYERS don't use it, no gypsies, sinx use sleep arrows (if they use...), status sniper? No way, it's small server (about 100 players) and many people want be a killers (many champs, sinx, creos). U think that I'm stupid because i don't worry about def and statuses. You are wrong. I want to know what about. I saw builds INT/DEX=LUK, someone says that LUK gives MATK so I'm interested.

Offline fluidin

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 11:49 AM »
no luk does not give matk unless its a custom feature only on ur server
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Offline Triper

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 12:07 PM »
I can tank 1 Sonic Blow from salas at thors with my HW with 46 def and assumpt using full reduces for that place, if i get 40 I die, def sucks right? ;)

I srs don't understand you. You want an Amon RA and then you don't care about def? The players on the server you play must suck a lot if they can't kill you running with 5.5k hp using no reduces.

To me your concept of DEF is the same as someone having 99% of anti-stun - You won't stun for lot true fact but if you're doing something and it get interrupted and your team that depended on you fail because of that you will be the one to be blamed because you failed on your station when everybody was doing their roles aka you are now the s*** member of the group to blame always and to not trust at 100% :)

Offline Gene

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 01:57 PM »
I know about status. I KNOW. But it's not my problem because PLAYERS don't use it, no gypsies, sinx use sleep arrows (if they use...), status sniper? No way, it's small server (about 100 players) and many people want be a killers (many champs, sinx, creos). U think that I'm stupid because i don't worry about def and statuses. You are wrong. I want to know what about. I saw builds INT/DEX=LUK, someone says that LUK gives MATK so I'm interested.

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+8 EQ? For what? DEF?

No def. No status resist. Low hp. No demi human resists.
Your server is doing it wrong.

And obviously you'd get 1 hit spiral by a cardo LK without resists.

Or get killed by soul breaker too damn easy on PVP.



« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 01:58 PM by Gene »
"Let justice be done, though the heavens fall."

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 02:12 PM »
I'd say we should give up guys. Obviously he doesn't give a damn about playing RO sensibly.
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And obviously you'd get 1 hit spiral by a cardo LK without resists.
And if I ever find out what server you're playing (you're not telling us lol) I'll be more than happy to be the LK that OSes you.
Or the Sin X that SBs you and I won't even have to use converters because you'd fall in 2 or 3 REGULAR SBs /gg/

Lol I'm wrong. You just made my day dude. 2 people backed up what I said. 99% stun resist might not be enough but that's more or less what I have on my Sin X and I never get stunned (I do get killed my other things though).
Failing 1 time out of 100 is bad, but gee failing all the time like you with no vit, no def and NO resist must be hard.

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I can tank 1 Sonic Blow from salas at thors with my HW with 46 def and assumpt using full reduces for that place, if i get 40 I die, def sucks right? Wink
Oh yeah it must seriously suck. If I put the whole BG set on my LK (but that's DH resist) I can tank asura (any asura) and if I take off say, feather beret, I die. Wow yeah def and resistance suck. Or not.


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someone says that LUK gives MATK
This guy doesn't even know the basic principles of the game or the difference between renewal and non-renewal. Someone kill me. Anyone? Gene?

Offline Malarija

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2011, 05:07 PM »
wow you're all offensive on da boy and you all quite fail aswell

sure, you should have 100% stun proof but not neccesary if there's really no gypsies and there's perma lp under you (you die anyways if you don't have it)

he should be devoed 24/7 anyways so no need for redux if the devo can pot (a lil redux doesn't hurt tho, makes pallys life easier)

i'd just change that 15 vit to agi or str, 15 vit won't save ya from anything and it just makes you get more dmg from ad and more dmg for your devo


(oh and i loled irl for the oneshot lk with cardo in woe)

« Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 06:17 AM by Malarija »

Offline Gene

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 11:30 AM »
I know about status. I KNOW. But it's not my problem because PLAYERS don't use it, no gypsies, sinx use sleep arrows (if they use...), status sniper? No way, it's small server (about 100 players) and many people want be a killers (many champs, sinx, creos). U think that I'm stupid because i don't worry about def and statuses. You are wrong. I want to know what about. I saw builds INT/DEX=LUK, someone says that LUK gives MATK so I'm interested.

Quote from: Malarija
he should be devoed 24/7 anyways so no need for redux if the devo can pot (a lil redux doesn't hurt tho, makes pallys life easier)

Nope.

Quote from: Malarija
(oh and i loled irl for the oneshot lk with cardo in woe)

Quote from: Gene
And obviously you'd get 1 hit spiral by a cardo LK without resists.

Or get killed by soul breaker too damn easy on PVP.
^Read Topic. It says PvP/WoE

Fail indeed.






« Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 11:34 AM by Gene »
"Let justice be done, though the heavens fall."

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 11:40 AM »
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Fail indeed.
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Yeah. PVP/WOE. PVP = not necessarily the same reducs.
SP with cardo and converter? = OS or 2shot if the guy's lucky. Period.
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(many champs, sinx, creos)
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Champ = FO = OS
Sin X= EDP SB w/o converter, or a couple of SBs (non EDP) = OS
Creator = will kill you with its homunc if he needs to. You won't be immune to AD either.

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devoed 24/7
Hm yeah. The paladin would have to be pretty tough. I got devoed by a paladin because he wanted me to go grim a bunch of people and we both died. The paladin sucked but I had over 10K HP AND some def and vit.
And status immunity. Now if the paladin can't pot that's not my fault but the team was all messy anyway.

PS I got devoed because I don't fall each time I walk (in cloak usually). You don't devo people who suck too much, that's a rule. Usually a paladin devoes 2 or 3 people at a time and the wizard who's got no def, no vit and no status immunity is useless and therefore not worth wasting ygg berries over.

Offline Triper

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2011, 10:07 AM »
Sorry but one thing is devoting something that I can pot and make the hw cast unstoppable. Another is to devo so he don't die to every single hit lool.
I would refuse to devo him if I was in his server because of no reduces, not even to stun.

Devo is to make good players kill people without problems like die easy because of low hp, cast can be stopped and we want it to not do that, etc.

All I see is someone with a gtb and nothing more aka "I has gtb. Me good now. Feel ma powa!"
GTB is ok vs magic dmg and some other nasty stuff but then physical will kill him, it's like he doesn't even care about physical/range dmg because he thinks he can't tank that since no thara/horn posted in his build of gears to swap.

Having good reduces and still good dmg and having a pala that can pot stuff easy makes a good team that can clean everything and not a "I'm hearing da pala pot like there is no tomorrow LAWL".

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2011, 10:50 AM »
Sorry but triper has a point. The guild that's about to recruit me wants me to lower my def, get dark bashri and resist cards (AD almost OSes me with 14k hp). If I don't do that chances are I'll stay guildless but the people in the guild all agree on one thing: I listen to advice and do what I can to get better and not hamper the group's progression. Just thought I'd say that because the personality of your fellow guild members and their willingness to take orders is as important, if not more, as their starting build/equips. His biggest problem is the fact that he's somewhat narrow-minded. Like you said he has GTB and thinks he's good. Oh and not having smokie card should be punishable by death :p Seriously though it'd make his life easier. Classes who can't detect should at least be able to hide, otherwise they're sitting ducks.

Offline leokimah

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2011, 11:03 AM »
Hard def is useless in competitive GvG's since every major skill everyone uses now ignores it. AD, FA, Asura etc.. Go ahead and waste your time +10ing stuff.

If he gets away with not being molested by status then i guess your server is severely lacking on skill level.

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2011, 03:08 PM »
And full of beginner players, to be polite.
Hard def is always better than no hard def (against SG, etc) but yeah it's not a priority.
My new guild just gave me Dboots and VA and will also give me Dark Bashir and they told me to lower my vit and switch with Valky shield and thara.
Didn't get further instructions but basically that's the kind of equipment you should wear (or FB or whatever).
If your guild doesn't have that or if you can't get it yourself there's something wrong.
Status immunity FTW

Offline leokimah

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 03:55 PM »
I'm talking about hard def not mdef. The only mdef you should really have is from gears like valkyrie shield and various BG equipments.
I agree with you though it's better than nothing but it's definitely not necessary. I'm a perfectionist and +5 my equips instead of +4  :D

VA on a HW ?___?. Horn is better than thara in GvG's btw. Unless the server you currently play has some custom mechanics going on.

« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 03:59 PM by leokimah »

Offline Leamee

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2011, 08:08 PM »
My main is a Sin X, my GM is an HW, and I don't know what armor he has.
And I don't agree when it comes to horn.
Let me explain why. So let's say I'm a grimtooth Sin X. I'll probably get OSed by most things but 5% from horn won't make a big difference. Let's say I have a 5% chance of surviving another Sin X's EDP SB.
If I wear thara (switch not main since I need a katar, duh) I'm safe, most likely.
If I wear horn I'm dead.
However it depends on the class. I'd say if you're long range wear horn as you have no HP and will get OSed by anything.
If you're DD (Sin X LK Paladin non-ranged) go for thara.
And I think thara is the safest choice but again depends on your class.

Offline leokimah

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2011, 08:26 PM »
You can carry both. You just need to switch when needed.

The server i play SinX's, WS and LK's do not exist in WoE cause they are useless.
It's all about long range GvG's for 2 hours.

Offline Mushu

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2011, 11:42 PM »
You can carry both. You just need to switch when needed.

The server i play SinX's, WS and LK's do not exist in WoE cause they are useless.
It's all about long range GvG's for 2 hours.

This right here applies to most bigger servers... SinXs just fall over after 1 sb (if they can get that in before getting revealed), WS don't even get to melee range before they die, LK can only spiral (which does crap damage)

Offline Ganondorf

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2011, 08:28 PM »
The only reason for you to get LUK as a High Wizard is if you're playing a Renewal server or you're being a troll on a pre-Renewal server.

If there aren't any Gypsies roaming around in your WoE scene then you MIGHT get away with a build like that, but even then, if you're not on a leash during the whole WoE and your enemy finds out that you're a glass cannon, you can guarantee that the Earthern Bows, Stun Arrows, Poison Arrows, Silences and all the statuses of the rainbow will be coming for you.  Having at least 40+ VIT and a Stalactic Golem Card and a Marduk Card if possible is a better idea in my opinion.  After all, what's the point in having the ability to nuke your enemies if you're dead before you're done casting, right?

Offline Ace

Re: My PvP/WoE High Wizard.
« Reply #21 on: Jul 19, 2011, 02:21 AM »
@Topicstarter

Those are not bad stats you got there.

If you have skills then you can own everyone ^^