Quote from: Gulielmus on Mar 22, 2024, 09:47 PMI'm also curious as you, why s/he is still here.
Quote from: ghrim987 on Mar 22, 2024, 06:59 PMOh, I remember you now.
You were the person who quit the server because the main chat was locked behind level 50 and made a big deal about it, even after Charlie explained the reasoning behind it.. didn't it turn out to be an oversight? And I believe it got fixed already? Afaik it was a leftover "security bandaid" for spam bots and toxic people when the server had an incredibly high playerpeak.
I am sorry you had such a traumatic experience on the server but I don't quite understand how people find it in their willpower to return posting in this topic to spread negativity after they have already long quit...
Quote from: FelioneYou also seem to have all the answers to what the people in this community want, so perhaps you have something valuable to say regarding this unfortunate incident which happens to be poor management, poor social skills, lack of community understanding and the benefit it has, and most importantly, communication with said community.
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Why? because they are PART of the community, they are not the overlords, and they treat everyone equally, including any suck ups, which most recently Muh exhibited. Events are plentiful and actually engage everyone, making it almost pointless to level, when you can just do events all your ro life if that is the choice you decide to make. Their updates involve suggestions and are always within reason, making the experience ENJOYABLE, not something they ENvISION their server should be, but rather, what makes the PLAYERS happy.
Quote from: Felione on Mar 22, 2024, 12:35 PMSo, if it's okay to be pissed off at someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, then it's okay to be angry at an admin who refuses to accept they're wrong and continues communicating their mistakes as a solution? or does the admin hold some sort of seniority over the player, and players having opinions is just counter productive?
Quote from: Felione on Mar 22, 2024, 12:35 PMAs for your post about Orn, his combative stance was his choice to shut down the server and hurt his playerbase because of a few bad actors. This coincides with alfheim, where they muted the server till midgame, once again, because of a few bad actors. There is nothing combative about these two.
Quote from: Felione on Mar 21, 2024, 11:09 PMTake Return to Morroc for example: He literally hated his community for wanting things changed or asking for exp events. That is not an example of someone who wants to handle a community, but rather, get praise from what little support he can. I have my opinion on why he really closed things up, but I'm almost certain he is not telling us everything, or rather, conveniently skewing it.
Quote from: Felione on Mar 22, 2024, 12:35 PMthen it's okay to be angry at an admin who refuses to accept they're wrong and continues communicating their mistakes as a solution? or does the admin hold some sort of seniority over the player
I know I'm being annoying, but you're defending one end of the spectrum. You just mentioned that people should be more productive, but it's also okay to be pissed off.
QuoteAs for your post about Orn, his combative stance was his choice to shut down the server and hurt his playerbase because of a few bad actors. This coincides with alfheim, where they muted the server till midgame, once again, because of a few bad actors. There is nothing combative about these two.
QuoteTake Return to Morroc for example: He literally hated his community for wanting things changed or asking for exp events.
QuoteOrn took everything far too personally, and his problem was his view of HIS project, and those who disagreed with that view, were told to leave. Fortunately, this is a fair choice: Why stay where you're not welcome? or rather, why stay when the boss refuses to listen? Regardless, once those few who disagreed left, he then turned that anger unto his community, just poking at anyone who had an opinion which differed from his. You were not allowed to have an opinion, or you would be ridiculed, because he just couldn't handle an opinion.
Quote from: Blinzer on Mar 22, 2024, 12:07 AMI didn't read what was in pages ago, if I have to be honest with you.
Yeahhh, no. Sorry.
Also, you highly underestimate how irresponsible and how much extra work it is to have players whine about every little thing as an admin. It is completely understandable for a human being to get pissed off at someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, even if it's not necessarily the best or most reasonable reaction to have.
Quote from: Metan on Mar 22, 2024, 10:39 AMYou can't be a nice guy in this environment for long, else you'll eventually get forced down in the food chain. OathRO is an unfortunate, but telling example of this: mired in such a cesspool, even a nice and reasonable man will go bonkers in ways that are unpredictable and rather harming, precisely because he's been overly indulgent. You could argue that he (Orn) exaggerated in his stance, and I wouldn't be one to argue about this only because I wasn't there to see it; but it is hard to attack the way he handled things in itself because it was a defense mechanism that may have been only too necessary, and he did it for free, for Heaven's sake.