Beware of rbhosting, web hosting for RO

Started by Shix, Mar 28, 2010, 05:25 PM

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Shix

Basically Starlite RO has been down for about 4 days now due to the web hosting financial problems.

(I won't even begin as to how this post in this SS just screams SCAM)
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capture-4.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/1Capture-1.png

Moving aside from that here comes the problem.

He went in the forums mini chat box and a player asked him a simple question. This is what happened,

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capture-3.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capt1ure.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1apture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1ture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1pture-1.png

Heres the good parts,

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Captu1re.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/1Capture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Cap3ture.png

About 2 minutes later we're greeted with this on the site,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Captur3.png

Heres a player stating this happens frequently with the web hoster,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca3pture.png

Some player opinions,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1aptu1re.png
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1apture2.png

Also they have a policy where if the server is down for 4 days, you'll be granted a free month of service.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1pture.png

Yet, if you try to access the page your greeted with,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/fdfdf.jpg

Seems like they are trying to cover it up, they also labeled that chat as, "support abuse",
> (e). Support Abuse. Any abuse of our support resources will result in a One Hundred ($100) dollar fee, and will result in account suspension. Please treat our staff in a respectful manner. This includes using foul language towards our staff members, bumping tickets, submitting more than one ticket for the same problem, or anything that may be deemed abusive by staff members.
http://rbhosting.org/tos.php

A random $100 fee for someone asking a simple question, but I do not yet know if the server owner was charged. (I will update if she is)

Another weird thing is this site he hosts, http://www.pimpanime.com/staff.php

Read how he sold it to himself lol.
QuoteJoshua is the CMO of Delta Services LLC the company that owns PimpAnime. He has been working on PimpAnime since March of 2009 and originally started as the Forums Manager. He owned the site for a small bit of time in 2009 then sold it to the company.

Jhina is clearly one of the owners of DSLLC/rbhosting. (He calls himself the "CMO")
http://rbhosting.org/about.php
QuoteRBhosting is owned by Delta Services LLC
Head on over to DSLLC, http://deltaservllc.com/page.php?2
QuoteDelta Services LLC is owned and operated by Joshua Hina and Kevin Bauer

Tom~

I guess Gorthex was right. "You get what you pay for". :|

In any case, there are no valid excuses for treating users like s***, even less if you're not the owner of the provided service. And wow, suspending the webhost account just because he got pissed at a player? Brilliant.

Good job, Shix. Thanks for providing such a detailed report :)

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

Kenkon

As you can see, the "CMO" Jhina, has already broken many of their own ToS rules.

It states "7. Disclaimer.

Delta Services LLC is under no duty, and does not by this AUP undertake a duty, to monitor or police our customers"

but you see, they've already gone and monitored in that forum.

My point is :

1.They've broken their own ToS
2.They've threatened players of this server
3.This guy is so immature for "having a bad day".

GorthexTiger

Quote from: Shix on Mar 28, 2010, 05:25 PM
Basically Starlite RO has been down for about 4 days now due to the web hosting financial problems.

(I won't even begin as to how this post in this SS just screams SCAM)
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capture-4.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/1Capture-1.png

Moving aside from that here comes the problem.

He went in the forums mini chat box and a player asked him a simple question. This is what happened,

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capture-3.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Capt1ure.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1apture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1ture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1pture-1.png

Heres the good parts,

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Captu1re.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/1Capture.png

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Cap3ture.png

About 2 minutes later we're greeted with this on the site,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Captur3.png

Heres a player stating this happens frequently with the web hoster,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca3pture.png

Some player opinions,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1aptu1re.png
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/C1apture2.png

Also they have a policy where if the server is down for 4 days, you'll be granted a free month of service.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/Ca1pture.png

Yet, if you try to access the page your greeted with,
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n272/sphaloman/fdfdf.jpg

Seems like they are trying to cover it up, they also labeled that chat as, "support abuse",
> (e). Support Abuse. Any abuse of our support resources will result in a One Hundred ($100) dollar fee, and will result in account suspension. Please treat our staff in a respectful manner. This includes using foul language towards our staff members, bumping tickets, submitting more than one ticket for the same problem, or anything that may be deemed abusive by staff members.
http://rbhosting.org/tos.php

A random $100 fee for someone asking a simple question, but I do not yet know if the server owner was charged. (I will update if she is)

Another weird thing is this site he hosts, http://www.pimpanime.com/staff.php

Read how he sold it to himself lol.
QuoteJoshua is the CMO of Delta Services LLC the company that owns PimpAnime. He has been working on PimpAnime since March of 2009 and originally started as the Forums Manager. He owned the site for a small bit of time in 2009 then sold it to the company.

Jhina is clearly one of the owners of DSLLC/rbhosting. (He calls himself the "CMO")
http://rbhosting.org/about.php
QuoteRBhosting is owned by Delta Services LLC
Head on over to DSLLC, http://deltaservllc.com/page.php?2
QuoteDelta Services LLC is owned and operated by Joshua Hina and Kevin Bauer


Depending on how you paid for it, I'd report it to Paypal (if you were fortunate enough to to have paid with them).

Lastly, see if you can talk to them about fixing it. If they refuse to fix it, find out where they are located (as far as business wise) and report them to the Better Business Bereau, as well as the Fair Trade Commission. More than likely, he's not a registered business, and if he is, or has claimed himself to be a registrar (used for purchasing .com names) then his personal info hanging around somewhere. Use it and call the IRS...they're scrapping for taxes and I'm sure an audit will be hell.
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Temjin

Please burn this sorry excuse for a "hoster". Burn him good.

Brilliant report, and best of luck. Sad to see that immature attitudes of people in power extends beyond RO in some respects.

The Rape

I fabulously declare "RBHosting" has been raped by Shix
Good Job, Good Stuff, Good Raping

Chiu

Quote from: The Rape on Mar 29, 2010, 01:38 AM
I fabulously declare "RBHosting" has been raped by Shix
Good Job, Good Stuff, Good Raping


exactly wat i want to say

Temjin

Notice how Delta Services LLC's link in the report is now mysteriously "server not found".


Yukino

Apparently, they're remaking their website... Can't get to my support tickets and such anymore. Their services were good until the whole server came down and that they needed to switch IP to save money (they had like... 2 places and needed to get rid of one). I liked how they were helpful with the support tickets, but this incident was very badly dealt with by the hoster. They still couldn't change my server's time for like more than a month as well ><. Been waiting for the change for such a long time. Guess we have to find somewhere else now that they changed their whole website -don't want to join their "newly" made forums-. It had its pros and cons, but we are just too shocked with this incident.
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Shix

Quote from: Temjin on Mar 29, 2010, 11:26 AM
Notice how Delta Services LLC's link in the report is now mysteriously "server not found".



I just love how rbhosting.com now links to > http://deltatf.org/index.htm

DarkDevine

The new website is beautiful, I love it plain
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Yukino

Lol XD. They managed to fix their network, and our server is up again. They are also finally working on fixing the server time and offered to give us free services and extra ram and disk space as compensation. I believe that they won't visit as often as well, so I'm okay with them for now. Good thing that things are fixed again at least -no need to find a new hoster; too much work-.
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Fade

#12
I thought rbhosting.org sounded familiar. I wasn't entirely sure if it was them but, i remember in 2008 someone from rbhosting had a email and was telling people to try out there installer which lol deletes a file in the windows folder and logs you out and won't boot after bios. Course I don't have proof but I know it had rbhosting.

it was this lol from my old msn. [email protected]

Yukino

It's probably not them since their domain is rbhosting.org and rbhosting.com was taken already long before they made rbhosting.org XD. I think they started in 2008 though... so hm o-o. May be a coincidence or...? They don't offer installers though XD. I had to download programs from Google in order to access my files.
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jhina

Hello,

I know this topic is a few months old however it still needs addressed so I will address it. We're not here to scam anyone. That post was put up as additional help to the server since they CAN ONLY take PayPal donations. As soon as the money is sent it would be credited to the customers account however that's all I can say for the security of the customers accounts. As for us helping; that is not "policing" policing customers is us ensuring that the AUP is not violated by customers. That is there so in the event a customer does something bad and we do not find out about it until later we are not liable for it. Read any TOS; they are designed to defend the company they are made for. Also when our staff help out clients they are offering their FREE TIME NOT COMPANY TIME. If the company were offering that service to the client the client would be required to pay tech fees for services rendered. As for rbhosting.com no that is not owned by us. As for deltatf.org that is a site that I own personally and has nothing to do with the company; look up its whois records. I put a site up there in the event that things do go down someone can still reach us; this is why our client panel was moved there. Finally I want to say a few things as I have worked for FranTech and SystemINPlace. Neither of them offer decent support. Plus Francisco Dais hates me and still thinks I owe him money; for what I have no idea. If people have issues with how things are done or if they have support concerns you do have the option of contacting my business partner. He is in charge of the network in addition to legal issues. Kevin can be reached by emailing kevin (at) rbhosting.org and last but not least here are phone numbers to reach our technicians. This is my cell phone 1 (503) 867-1586 and this is one of our technicians phones 1 (757) 344-7841. In the future please don't assume a legitimate business is evil and trying to steal money; ask questions in the future rather then just assuming. It makes both sides look bad; have a good day.

Regards,

Joshua Hina
RBHosting, a Division of Delta Services LLC.
Office: 1 (971) 220 - 9696
Emergency Issues/Domain Registration Support: domains (at) deltatf.org
General Support: support (at) rbhosting.org
Joshua Hina - Mobile: 1 (503) 875-1899
CEO, Delta Internet and Media Services LLC.

undercover

love how you ignored the chat box part  ;)

Yukino

The chatbox incident was bad and wasn't repeated anymore ><.
As for their services, they are better now and more stable. They still have fast ticket response times after the switch. They continue to offer great customer support for us.
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TonkaTough

#17
Don't fall for JHina's BS.

These guys are bad news.  

Aside from not being the most likable of bunch they have no idea what they're doing.
Quote from: Joshua HinaWell NS records won't update properly so I set up four since things are being stupid and complicated. Things should be back up now provided that the IPs don't decide to stop working... this really is starting to become a pain with all the technical issues this sites been having recently. Sorry everyone.

Joshua Hina
Delta Services LLC.
As seen on their site; http://pimpanime.com

Anyone who knows anything about servers knows that IPs simply don't 'decide' to stop working, it is entirely the fault of the administrator, especially if that administrator happens to also be a rep of a 'hosting company'.  

This DNS problem has been going on for a long time now, if they can't fix their DNS, how can they keep yours working?  You may not even know it's broken as it depends on location.

You can run a DNS check here - http://dnscheck.iis.se/

---

I became acquainted with JHina when I discovered his site had stolen some of my JavaScript code, and had a copyright notice claiming it as their own.

I confronted him, and he tried to pass the blame off on someone else, blocking me.  Not much later, a 'friend' of JHina's adds me on MSN and harasses me over the issue.

Quote
Ben       How well do you know copyright law?
Derek        Hold on a second
Ben       This is very relavent to argument of "they stole my code"
Derek        I've dabbled in it.
Derek       I know since 1989 as long as you can prove you wrote it, it's copyrighted.
Derek       You don't even need a disclaimer.
Ben       Not really, It has to be post marked
Ben        post marking is the only official dating not done by a notary
Derek        You really think you'll be able to prove you didn't steal my code.
Ben        Of course I can prove I didn't steal it. I can also prove that PimpAnime Administration, Moderators, and the Company hosting it, has not stolen that code
Derek        You claim it as yours.
Ben        No
Derek        Yes, you do.
Ben        Where did I say that it was mine?
Derek        You as a site, of course.
Ben        I have said before that I have nothing to do with the site
Derek        Then why are you contesting?
Ben        Because you are being in my opinion a douchbag
Derek        It's spelt douchebag, and please stop harassing me, your hurting my feelings.
Ben        Oh I'm hurting your feelings now. Ok what is it like living your life in this continual abyss of self pity, that you have to make things up to get attention
Derek        In fact you've been harassing me quite often duiring this chat.
Ben        All you have shown is that you are a whiny brat who can copy generic code
Derek        Generic huh.
Derek       It's actually unique.
Ben        Yes Generic.
Ben        Your code is nothing specific
Derek        Try finding someone else who creates a element cache.
Ben        those file paths are just that file paths
Derek        Really.
Derek        All the internet, find another element cache.
Ben        You don't have anything such as that listed in the code you copied to me
Derek        I do.
Derek        Thats what eles stands for.
Ben        eles is not there
Derek        var eles=[''];
Ben        <script type="text/javascript" src="../../files/scripts/video_change.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="../../../files/scripts/video_change.js"></script>  
Ben        Do you see eles anywhere there
Ben        No you do not
Derek        It's a reference to the code in another location.
Ben         Thank you and take your pity party away. You disgust me with how you are trying to sink.
Ben         Stand up and be a f*** man
Ben         Accept that you have nothing there and they owe you nothing
Ben         I know you run Several over boards and you should just deal with those
Ben        Admit your sister is a slut
*ben blocks/unblocks*
Ben        http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/efficientjs.shtml
Ben        Read that douchebag
*ben blocks/unblocks*
Derek        Really, unblock more.
Derek        Thats image caching, completely different.
Ben        So have you figured it out yet
Ben        You can't prove its yours
*ben blocks/unblocks*
Derek        More snide remarks?
Ben        Also this is Canada b**** no DMCA
Derek        Canada signed the copyright act in 1989, every country did except a few in the middle east.
Ben        FAILURE. HUMILIATING FAILURE. WHATS IT LIKE BEING A HUGE DOUCHEBAG LIKE YOU? DO YOU LIKE MY CAPS LOCK COOL MOMENT?
Ben        Goodbye fail-kid. Try to actually make something your own. No one respects those like you who try to say  
Ben        "I made that now give it back"
Derek        Did I say that?
Derek        No, I just want your site to stop claiming it as your own.
Ben       Yes you tried in essence by all your b**** and whining
Derek        I did not.
Ben        Anything they paid for is their property
Ben        They paid the developer to make it and he did
Derek        I've just been treated with such miscontempt
Ben        If you have a problem go to him
Ben        You aren't even worthy of being treated like a person
Derek        I suppose you don't know copyright laws either.
Ben         I know more abou them than you will ever know
Derek        PimpAnime is held responsible, not your employee, it's your job to go after him.
Derek        And I suppose Delta Services LLC will be held responsible in this case.
Ben        Sorry but here again, you are wrong
Ben        This was the act of an independant contractor
Ben        Take note of the contractor status
Ben        The guy doesn't work and never worked as an employee
Ben        He was a contractor hired to do a job and he did
Derek        Just contact me of you have any questions.
*derek blocks*

The only reason they're treating you with any civility, Yukino, is because you are advertising them on this site.  Please stop.

---

Also, I should mention this.  RBhosting is apparently just a re-seller.  They don't manage the servers, which would make sense as why would you get rid of a box unless you were paying for it.  

http://www.whoishostingthis.com/pimpanime.com
http://www.whoishostingthis.com/rbhosting.org

http://whois.domaintools.com/pimpanime.com (click server stats)
http://whois.domaintools.com/rbhosting.org (click server stats)

Real host - http://kevhosting.com

Apparently they are nothing but liars and scam artists.




Yukino

#18
Well, it's up to me who I choose to get hosting from, so you shouldn't stop me anyways. Also, I advertised them in the recruitment section before, but it's deleted anyways, so you shouldn't have much to say, especially to me. I was advertising because I was quite content with their services. They offer better custom support (or at least they try). They help with forum setup and even website setup which other hosting companies don't do. I don't know about the copying of codes and such, but personally, from a customer's perspective, they are pretty nice still even after all the complications they faced. I didn't advertise them before--I bought the server hosting service from them first. AFTER 2 months, I decided to post about their services thinking that others would benefit as well. They offer cheap prices and such (just server hosting for us). I don't mind the "DNS problems" since they are resolved for us now. Sorry if you have troubles with him--I personally don't. So, don't go saying things about me with relations to them badly. Seeing how you are like this, are you from eAthena? I can choose who to advertise and whatnot; you can't stop me from doing so. Anyways, I already stopped advertising them (I was giving my opinions in this thread). If you are personally against him, go take it up on MsN or something. Don't drag me into this.
Edit: Furthermore, the company treated me nicely BEFORE I advertised them out to help others who are searching for a hoster. You need to get that concept straight. Also, they have partnerships with that website with the VPS and such--I already know about this o-o. They don't sell the things for a higher price than those offered by that website as well. Thank you for your concern though.
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TonkaTough

#19
You de-karma because what?  Your biased?  Seems likely.

I provided evidence to suspicious activity. I showed the owner did not only lie(about having his own boxes), but also made a statement no experienced web host would say. I showed they blatantly do not care about stealing code because they're in Canada, as if that means anything.  And I asked you to stop advertising them.  Why be defensive over stopping a potential scam unless you have a personal stake?  Why advertise them constantly if you don't have a personal stake?

It's not as if they're a great host, you just admitted to DNS problems.  And as of this morning, their flagship site, pimpanime, does have DNS problems, and has for weeks.  Do you even know if your problems are resolved, have you checked?  I provided a tool.

DNS is what allows people to connect to your site without typing numbers instead of letters into the URL bar.  Going by experience, it's likely they have 20% of people not being able to connect to their site at any given time, loosely based on location, changing constantly.  Unless you have content people are desperate to have, that will kill any site within a month, as decreased activity leads to further decreased activity.  You don't provide instant gratification, people leave, and never come back.


Yukino

#20
It's not like I'm biased about your proofs; it's more like how you directed something at me because I am supporting what I think about their services FOR my server. I don't really know about the copying of coding and such, but what I know is that they offer great services to me still regardless of the DNS problems. Sure, I cared about the DNS problems, but they don't have any more problems with regards to my server at least. I don't care about the DNS problems with their anime website--so don't even bring it up with me. Anyways, people de-karmed me a lot regardless of what I said in other threads, so why would you really care if you are de-karmaed? Are you going to use RMS that much or is it just for this purpose?

You did provide evidence which doesn't really have anything to do with me. I said I stopped advertising them if you DIDN'T bother to read my post carefully. I just typed what I feel about their services as of now. They're still a good hoster to me, and that's enough as a customer. They are a great host in terms of customer services--they reply quickly to my tickets and would help install things for me. Other hosters don't offer that (I'm just saying the truth). Don't judge what I say as the truths to be advertisements. How would you know about their DNS problems in such detail? You PERSONALLY have something against them (your proof as well), so if you are so bothered, take it up with him on MsN. Don't drag me into YOUR personal business with the company. I'm just talking about the HOSTING services, not the company in general. Please get that concept straight AS WELL. This thread was mostly about the chatbox incident, and you happen to bring up the topic again with regards to legal things. As I said, in this thread, I listed my opinions about them. I didn't advertise about them--I just said they still continue to offer great services TO ME. Why is it so hard these days to have people read comments properly? You're the biased one. Just don't talk about the company legal things with me. Go email him or something if you're so against him. Once again, shall I say, I didn't advertise them for a while. The thread has been deleted (and that was a few weeks ago as well). You really need to understand some situations here. Regardless of the DNS settings, I am content as they try their hardest to fix things in the end and compensate for what was lost for us. If people don't want their services, fine. It's not like I'm forcing them to use it. I just talked about what I feel about the hosting service. If it gets worse, then I'll switch services. Until then, I'm still sticking with them. They're the ones who made it possible for my server to start and stay alive.
Edit: Of course I know the problem is solved. If it wasn't, players would complain/report in the technical bugs section. The server is up and running. Regardless of DNS problems, it never affected me. It only affected some people in the US before (and only some parts of the US). It's all been fixed now as we have confirmed with players (like what? A month ago? <_<). If it wasn't fixed, we wouldn't still be with them -sigh-. Don't have to state the obvious, right?
You can prove the scam/whatever, but you're dragging ME into this. So of course, I would reply. It's my choice to do what I want--I do it within the guidelines of this forum as well. So, you can't say anything else about it, sorry. Not to be mean or anything, but I would like to stand up for myself and my opinions. Thanks.
Oh, one more thing to add: Their services have the same pricing as the other websites they work with, so how could they scam anything? They don't earn anything extra, so that's that. Furthermore, what scripts did they take from you? If it's about the anime site, that has NO relevance to this issue. We're talking about hosting services, especially about RO hosting. I doubt he could take scripts... with regards to HOSTING. So, what else do you have to say that pertains to RO hosting? If nothing else, then your comments can prove something on another thread but not this one. It has nothing to do with me. Once again, I emphasize my question... whether your proofs have to do with hosting scripts or just the anime website scripts. That shouldn't affect the quality of hosting at all, would it? It's a whole other website and... genre of hosting might I say. Keep RO things to RO threads please.
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TonkaTough

#21
I care for the sake of determining if anything you say can be trusted to any extent.  I made that clear didn't I, "personal stake".

QuoteYou did provide evidence which doesn't really have anything to do with me.
Relevancy

  • Someone who can't fix their own dns problems can't fix yours.
  • Someone who can't fix dns problems likely can't keep your server up if something goes wrong.
  • Someone who doesn't care about stealing code may steal yours, and they have full access to your server-side source.

QuoteTheir services have the same pricing as the other websites they work with, so how could they scam anything
Multiple users on a single account, lower quality.  Google 'Reselling' and 'Overselling'.  Special deals. Etc.

QuoteOnce again, shall I say, I didn't advertise them for a while.
Your posts come up in google under RBHosting therefore, you are advertising them.


QuoteThey are a great host in terms of customer services
Them giving you simple help with your site does not constitute good hosting. As for helping you install, see Fantastico.

Regardless, I directed one sentence at you.  This isn't about you.  Yet, you make it personal.  

Therefore one can only assume you have a personal stake in this 'hosting company'.


Coincidently, a contact of mine happened to design their website.
Quote5/6/2010  4:03:39 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  lol, did you own zurech.com
5/6/2010  4:52:02 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  yea
5/6/2010  4:52:06 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  Why?
5/6/2010  4:52:07 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  lol
5/6/2010  4:52:08 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  Small world
5/6/2010  4:52:19 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  You designed the site for these faggots? - http://rbhosting.org
5/6/2010  4:52:34 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  Yea
5/6/2010  4:52:51 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  For free Lolz trying out Photoshop CS4
5/6/2010  4:52:56 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  when i first got it
5/6/2010  4:53:03 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  Thats why it's s***
5/6/2010  4:53:11 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  These guys are just scam artists
5/6/2010  4:53:14 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  You get what you pay for
5/6/2010  4:53:19 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  and in this instance it was free
5/6/2010  4:53:24 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  I know they are
5/6/2010  4:53:38 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  They fail at hosting
5/6/2010  4:53:43 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  and everything
5/6/2010  4:53:48 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  even business
5/6/2010  4:54:07 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  Mind if I post this log?
5/6/2010  4:54:18 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  Post it where?
5/6/2010  4:54:20 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,14232.0.html
5/6/2010  4:54:42 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  They stole some of my code and treated my like s*** over it.
5/6/2010  4:56:12 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  You know how i met them  
5/6/2010  4:56:47 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  When i owned anime-network.co.nr
5/6/2010  4:56:57 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  he offered me free .com with hosting
5/6/2010  4:57:11 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  i took the option and it was s***
5/6/2010  4:57:17 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  His first business failed
5/6/2010  4:57:23 PM  Zurech Design (Mo)  Derek  and now he started another one
5/6/2010  4:57:28 PM  Derek  Zurech Design (Mo)  Thats really interesting

Yukino

#22
Well, if it's a personal stake, you can take it elsewhere. It isn't really about RO in general. Go bash on another forum that deals with... hosting or anime website or whatever.
Your evidence doesn't have much to do with me because they fixed the DNS problems already as I have already said. The server is already up and running for a while. Hence, this renders your first two points useless. As for stealing code, I don't know much about it, but they wouldn't steal my code. If they did, I doubt they would want them in the first place. Furthermore, they don't host their own RO server anymore.
Lower quality? I don't mind seeing how the server is fine. Furthermore, that's not really scamming. It's for the same price AND they help me set up things. They continue to assist me a lot, so that can make up for the lost quality. There's not much loss in quality--no more lag I believe.
My posts came up in google probably because of this thread? Have you ever thought of that? What other posts came up? Care to give the links? Also, I said I DIDN'T ADVERTISE THEM FOR A WHILE... (echo) FOR A WHILE (echo x 1337 times). As I said, why do you care what I advertise in the first place? You place no restrictions over what I can do. Furthermore, I was never scammed as a customer--they helped me more than any other hosting companies can. For a cheaper price as well.

What YOU CONSIDER to be simple help is GREAT help towards me. Don't drive YOUR personal opinions at me--I'm stating MINE and what I think about them. I NEVER had experience hosting a server, website, or forum. Hence, I do appreciate their help. They even TAKE the time to explain each step. Same with editing Control Panels when I first started to use them.

You directed one sentence at me, but that would be personal of course. Why should YOU tell me to stop what I WAS doing/am doing. You're not the boss of me, and your proofs can be taken elsewhere since it has nothing to do with their RO hosting. If it's about their website content, it doesn't affect their hosting in the first place. Besides have two chats for proofs, you can prove more, but make another thread or something. Also, this is RMS forum for RO, not for some website taking content in which the website has NO RELEVANCE to RO. Capice? Fantastico is just about website hosting--not server hosting or RO control panel hosting. It doesn't explain about SVN Files as well. Same with some other programs/service that RBHosting offers. Once again, what you think is simple isn't the same for everyone else. You need to understand that <_<. -sigh- Not everybody is like you or knows computers that much. It's not that I don't deny the chatbox incident or anything, I still support that they offer great services FOR ME. I don't know about other people, but I said they offer good support FOR ME. Do I have a personal stake in the company? Not really, but you are pushing my buttons. I have my own opinions to defend, and you think I'm just a big liar. Of course I would be posting back and be like this. Other people would be like this as well (or at least some). It's because as a customer, I don't like how you degrade their HOSTING service in terms of the customer service they offer. They helped me greatly, and you think it's nothing. It's something to me. That's all that matters to me--so if you continue directing things at me, of course I would reply back. Think about that. Also, they changed the website design as well, so you can't say much about them anymore. Have fun with that. Once again, go chat with him over MsN or email. Don't bring whatever you're complaining about here for this is about RO and the chatbox incident, not some taken scripts for an anime website. You're just fueling more here since this also has to do with my server. It does have to do with me. My player started up this thread, and the issue has been resolved. You don't need to say anything more to this thread at all. Thank you.
Friends are special flowers that bloom from trust.

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TonkaTough

Sigh.  I asked you, and that's all I will say more to you.

Shinn

Guys I knew these guys a long time ago. Want to hear a story about them?

Read this.

This has to be their 8th hosting site I think. Every time something like this comes up about them, they take all the money they made and shuts down everything and just disappears and reappears after 1 month and remakes a new service. So this a warning to anyone who have their server with them..your server is doom I recommend backing up and leaving ASAP.

But on to the funny.

Guys they once wanted to sue me. Reason, Ben their tech/support and apparently god almighty who knows -everything- accused me of "crashing and burning their servers due to me tampering with their host files" Apparently a php script to check who is online on my RO server hosted on my VPS they gave me and me giving the script a new mysql user access account to do this "crashed and burnt" their servers. Thus as a result I was to be sued for I think he said "$10,000" damage.

My response "LOL..k" it has been almost 2? 3? years and I am still awaiting my 10,000$ court lawsuit summon from Ben, Kevin and Jhina.


Anyone who is hosting their server with them. Again I repeat this for your own good. DO NOT host your server with these clowns. They will most likely re-make their site with a new name to get rid of their bad rep from this thread again. So as a result they will simply wipe all server and take money and leave. Trust me.


Cheers.


cause after all the drama, I still slain em.


Need a site done? contact me.

Cyric

It looks like things are getting bleak for host providers where RO is concerned, as more and more of us build our own servers on which to host from. I know for us the whole VPS situation is a thing of the past. Great post!
From Alexander the grammarian; To refrain from fault-finding, and not in a reproachful way to chide those who uttered any barbarous or solecistic or strange-sounding expression; but dexterously to introduce the very expression which ought to have been used, and in the way of answer or giving confirmation, or joining in an inquiry about the thing itself, not about the word, or by some other fit suggestion.

Yukino

#26
At TonkaTough: Thank you for stopping. I didn't consider your sentence to be really a question--it was belittling me and what I had to say before. Thank you for your concern though.

At Shinn:
Thank you for your post. However, I've been with them for a few months already, and they're the ones who are willing to cut prices just for us when we are in trouble (but we never had to yet). I trust the hosting service that they offer still xD. Even if they decide to do so, I'm still grateful that they offered us the chance to start up a server for a price we can manage. Same with all the setups of everything we need and things outside of other hosting companies offer. It's sad that what you all said are true (if they are true o-o), but from my experience so far, they deserve more credit this time around. They even spend their spare time (not day job time) helping me with my issues, so hence, I appreciate what they have done for me. Perhaps, if you suggest so, other servers should be more aware, but as for me, I am fine with them still. What will happen will happen, so I'll just wait and see for the future. Besides, we can't get another hosting service anyways. This is all we can do/have. They fixed all our problems so far, so I have nothing to complain. I doubt they would let go of us just like that. Perhaps you all wouldn't put faith in them, but I would. What means so little to some people may mean a lot to me, and they were the first ones to offer a helping hand to let me have this new experience of starting a server. Once again, thank you to those who were concerned.
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jhina

#27
Lets stop here now;

Benjamin Henderson or BenTheExo as some may know him on eAthena DOES NOT work or Delta Services LLC or RBHosting. He owns WorldHostNetworks and use to co-own Dreams Networking (check eAthena if you think I am wrong) with Andrew Moore. I had nothing to do with Dreams Networking until we acquired their company in December of 2009. Currently WorldHostNetworks resells VPs's from RBHosting; that is all he has to do with us. With regards to Derick saying what he said Tokyosama was the one who made that script or got it somewhere; look up the WHOIS and SITE records I WAS ONLY THE FORUMS ADMIN FOR PIMPANIME UNTIL LIKE AUGUST OF 2009 TAKE ANY OLD ISSUES YOU HAVE AND DIRECT THEM TO Tokyosama. (he is his FRIEND as is MOE the OWNER of Zurech; now lets think for a moment folks your friend would of course bash your competition because they are well your ALLY.) Now as for the DNS issues those have been resolved and I DO KNOW what I am talking about. If you would like I can give you a list of college references or rather talk to my Networking Instructor. Most of the users of pimpanime are not tech savy so in order for them to understand what is going on I make things simpler; they DO NOT understand TECHNOBABBLE! Last but not least I will speak about us supposedly being a "reseller" of KevHosting. We DO lease IPs and Servers (Not just VPS's; actual dedicated boxes) from them. We DO get our cPanel and DirectAdmin Licenses through them. However KevHosting's Data Center is NOT in Utah as Derick has said in the past; that is where their US legal agent is. They are actually located in Ontario, Canada and their Data Center Rack is based in Neteligent Hosting Services in Montreal. Now Shinn I emailed you after i saw the chat you had with one of our technicians; if you have issues with something Dreams networking did to you in the past feel free to email me or call our office and I will be happy to discuss this with you. Now people in the future please get your information straight before attacking a legitimate business because you want to grow your ego slightly (this is not the case with Shin as he has a legitimate issue). Oh and last but not least anyone who knows Ben Henderson knows how he is and generally speaking he is not great with customers.

Cheers,

Joshua Hina
Delta Services LLC.
1 (971) 220-9696
[email protected]

EDIT: Also if this is about Mwest Technologies that company died a long long time ago due to issues with VerityNet our provider back then. It was in quite a bit of debt and still is as a result the company ceased operations. Delta Services in an entirely separate organization and is NOT hosted with them. If anyone thinks I am wrong please go on web hosting talk and look up a post about VerityNet. I am generally speaking a decent person and will put my own money in to fix a situation but with the veritynet issue and them saying we owe like 1500 in fees (illegitimate fees to boot) I can't pay that; I am living off of Social Security and 10 hours a week at a fast food joint while going to college; good luck getting 1500 dollars out of me. Again none of this is really any of your business but whatever since everyone wants to assume that I am the evil scum of the world when I make next nothing yeah I guess I am scum because I can't invest thousands of dollars into backwater providers whom should not be operating anyway.

EDIT AGAIN; Would a moderator please lock this; the issue has been resolved and this is really making me, my staff and my business look bad because someone has something against us.
Joshua Hina - Mobile: 1 (503) 875-1899
CEO, Delta Internet and Media Services LLC.

Zarsheiy

Quote from: jhina on May 21, 2010, 05:23 PM
Lets stop here now

You're the one who necro'd the thread after it had been all but forgotten. Just saying.

LemonCrosswalk

Quote from: jhina on May 21, 2010, 05:23 PM
EDIT AGAIN; Would a moderator please lock this; the issue has been resolved and this is really making me, my staff and my business look bad because someone has something against us.
Sort of the point of this forum.

pureshotown

I also had RBHOSTING.ORG as free and paid hosting and they like to **** you around. I think they try to act more pro then they really are.

jhina

Hello,

This thread has not been updated in around a year however we are currently working on cleaning up any remains of a bad reputation we have had in the past. As a result I am asking anyone who has had a problem with us in the past and is willing to work out an agreement to fix those problems or if they want to offer up suggestions on how we can do better please do so. I will be checking this as will our new director of customer service. This comes as part of our campaign to better our image and return to the open hosting market. I will check this over once a day during business hours and respond to posts either in here or via PM. If you have any questions that are urgent or  you would like to speak to someone from our accounts team privately please go to rbhosting.org and file a ticket, email [email protected] or call us toll free at 1 (888) 401 - 0189.

Thanks for your attention and assistance in this matter,

Joshua Hina
Chief Management Officer
RBHosting.org
A division of Delta Services LLC (Delta Internet and Media Services LLC.)
Joshua Hina - Mobile: 1 (503) 875-1899
CEO, Delta Internet and Media Services LLC.