good class against champion 99/70

Started by vlemzgwapo, Mar 01, 2013, 01:45 AM

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vlemzgwapo

can someone tell me what class is the best against champ 99/70 pre -renewal..

any suggestions please, im annoyed that our server has a lot of champs in BG.. its kinda always 6vs6

Peanut

Sinx, Clown with SL (Tarot),Prof Dispel, Shield Chain Paladin(Reflect) ...

forholywar

it depends on what type the champ is. if the champ is an asura type, you can use Paladin Reflect Shield. i've seen many champ kill himself because asura-ing my reflect shield. or you can use Auto Guard for a chance to parry the asura. then you can just kill with Shield Chain or Matyr's Reckoning or continuous Bash

oh and you can use Ghostring Card too for less damage. i believe clown is one good class for champ counter.

Fruit Pie~

It's BG, usually that's under WoE rules, so any class with Safety Wall will completely disable Champions at the cost of making you vulnerable to Creators and Professors.

Unless you're dying to Throw Spirit Sphere too, which is another, much larger problem entirely.

Paladins are also fantastic against Champions, like people said. Don't go Martyr's Reckoning, though, that usually kills you faster than it kills your target. Also, do they have VIT? Of course they do, everyone does. Make a Creator, steamroll them. Especially effective with a Safety Wall caster by your side.

vlemzgwapo


Triper

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Any class has some sort of counter vs a Champ Asura some way or another even if some are better then others.

Smokie to hide dodge asura works with any char but you've to practice a lot to get used to use hide at the right moment, even more if you're not used to hide vs [good]champs with sight and speed pot since sight range > ruwach[sight also gives the advantage of not giving the "hit" effect that ruwach gives which can end into bug position your char. Sight also doesn't ruin lex aeterna] and speed pot makes everything happen too fast to sometimes react fast enough but isn't that bad to start practice vs ruwach to get the hang of it.
150 DEX champs are near impossible to dodge this way, you've to be really lucky to press Hide at the right time.

Reflect gear can work too but if it's any decent champ instead of a pvm player, it won't do any difference since most of WoE Champs have builds made to never do more dmg then the enough to kill and to not die from reflect.
Paladins may have some luck with this since they've reflect shield[you can end killing the champ and being alive, hardly but happens sometimes] but as I said, good champs won't do dmg to kill themselves unless it's needed to drop the pala to change the flow of the fight so it's a bit of "let's get a baddy with me if I drop". Auto-Guard [lv10 <3] is also amazingly annoying vs them too as said before by forholywar.

There are many more ways such as Spider Web, Dispell, Absorb Spirits, Safety Wall, Stone Curse, Wall of Fog, Status if the champ get them. Some work better, some not, some are just extra safety measures. It really depends on what you play and your play style but most of the chars have always 1-2 ways, at least, to counter them being it at least a Smokie or some stop "their cast" with a skill.

[edit: joke removed as requested since someone saw it offensive]

vlemzgwapo

thx for that info, im getting annoyed with BG not the conquest BG, cuz all of the champs decide to play on normal BG not the conquest one cuz they do have advantage on that BG.

henry24

I Always use a clown Freeze than tarrot card him a couple of times  /gg

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Lakre

I would use a paladin, preferably a shield build. Autoguard and high HP to survive asura, and pressure to take away SP. Shield charge against pnuema. Watch out for occult though.

SukiChii

If the champ is asura type, a OL armor might help.

Thoth

speedpot vanilmirth creator almost never dies to champ 1v1 (with my AI). the vanil will just hitlock him and you kite and keep your distance :P
don't forget to max homun resurrection, its gonna get killed alot

Astraeos

High Wizard (SW, JT spam)
Paladin (Guard, Shield Reflect, Pressure)
Scholar (Dispell spam, all that utility)
Biochemist (if they have high VIT, most have about 60~70)

mleo1

Ninja. Annoy him using cicada lol

SukiChii

Quote from: Astraeos on Mar 23, 2013, 12:17 PM
High Wizard (SW, JT spam)
Paladin (Guard, Shield Reflect, Pressure)
Scholar (Dispell spam, all that utility)
Biochemist (if they have high VIT, most have about 60~70)

HW is not a good choice if you're playing in a server were GTB isn't nerfed.

Strange

Quote from: SukiChii on Mar 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
HW is not a good choice if you're playing in a server were GTB isn't nerfed.
Why is hw useless he still can use sw and why not Prof Because dispell don't work. And Fights Never 1vs1 so if Champ use gtb he will die from sb or something else