Different Questions on Different Jobs

Started by Patrick, Jul 08, 2008, 11:32 AM

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Patrick

Well I have a few questions:
Lord Knight
Does the Orlean's Gloves+Orlean's Plate reduce cast time of skills like bowling Bash?
How much dex in total do I need for a Spear LK?
What should I put in my accessories? (cards)
How do I raise my Bowling Bash(2Handed) and Spiral Perice? (tips/items/etc)
How do I reduce the huge delay of Spiral Perice without agi?

Gotta Update this thread if I have questions.

Sarin

So...

no
70+
definitely 2x ring [1] with mantis cards. Any LK with less than 130 str WITHOUT bless sucks.
BB-huge str, +10 tri bloody boned katana or executioner. Spiral-Hunting spear+hydra card. Don't forget weight of weapon matters much.
Expert rings, kiel cards.

Brainstorm

QuoteDoes the Orlean's Gloves+Orlean's Plate reduce cast time of skills like bowling Bash?
No because it has no delay. =)
BB delay is based on your attack speed.

Spiral Pierce delay can be reduced though.

Sarin

You kinda mistaken delay and cast time, brainy.

fluidin

I think it doesn't.

If your server has a resetter, just reset your DEX according to the enemies you are going to fight. If not, look at the majority of your server's players and decide if more of them have high flee than not. If it was me, however, I would have about 60-70 DEX. Those really high flee characters? Use a Gungnir to Spiral Pierce them.

What type of LK are you? If pure BB, which is what I'm assuming, see Sarin's post above. If pure frontline tanker/status inducer; you might want to consider Alligator cards especially if your server is AD Creator infested. LKs are...pretty vulnerable to AD.

BB - Overupgraded Exec. CK (only when Mass BB-ing with guild and tanking). Position yourself wisely for BB-ing. For Spiral Pierce, just remember weight of the spear is most important...

Poem of Bragi, and what Sarin mentioned.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Patrick

Sorry for this noob question what is CK?  :P
@ Everyone
I am making 2 Lord Knights
1 2Handed Pure Bowling Bash
and 1 1HandedSpear Pure Spiral Peirce

So let me get this straight:
For my BB LK
Overgraded Executioner
and high attack speed
120 str w/o Buffs
60-70 DEX

For my Spiral LK
High Dex 70~90
Hunting Spear with Hydra
Expert Rings w/ Alligator Cards
Lots of VIT
Can someone help me with my Spiral Perice Build? I am confused.


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Sarin

ASPD isn't so important for pure BB. Okay, it will increase your dps a bit, but you gotta spend too many points to agi for that...I prefer full vit. My personal stat build is 130 str, 60 dex, all that's left vit. Comfortably reaching over 24k hitpoints, I can tank pretty much anything except AD spam. Side note, you need +3, preferably +5 str food for that, but that's easy to get.

In case of spiral...I don't think those alligators are good...I'd prefer mantis cards instead, maximizing your str. One accessory with alligator is good tho for switching. You can use Orleans plate+glove too, spiral does have cast time, but not long.

But, I think Spiral sucks. Easily outpotted and countered, and spiral build can't take advantage of Frenzy, Parrying and Concentration.

Patrick

Why combat knife?
@Sarin
For the Spiral LK, I plan on getting 100 vit
I plan on tanking the damage till that player freezes with my sasquatch
Equip my Hunting Spear with Draniliar and Wind Endow
Easy 10~12k damage

fluidin

CK is for when there are many BB LKs in your guild, and you can take up the role of frontline tanker while BB-ing. It's for 1h BB LKs, though. With an extra 10% dmg reduction, together with your Cranial, you will become much harder to kill than 2h LKs, and if the enemy has decent def (like 50), you would actually be doing more damage with a CK than a +10 Double Bloody Boned Saber. Not sure about Mes.

Do note you will need Soul Link for 1h quicken.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Sarin

I really wanna see you get 100 vit AND enough str and dex for decent spiral. Kinda impossible on 99/70 server. And, Sasquatch? How many people on your server DON'T have marc/ED? More likely YOU will get frozen.

btw fluid...I kinda prefer 50% chance of parrying over 40% reduction. Besides, it's much more satisfying to parry asura than to survive it with some 5k left.

fluidin

It's a preference thing, I suppose. 2h has it's advantages, so does 1h. However, in a server I used to play in 2 years back, I recalled my spear knight able to switch to a 2h sword, activate parrying, and then switch back to spear and shield, with the parrying effect still intact.

I wonder if it still works now...

About the Asura, if it's in WoE, just use a Hide clip. hehe.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Patrick

@Sarin
Hmm maybe a Dark Frame whould do or a Pest Card which do you prefer?
@Fludin
Thanks for the CK suggestion
but its impossible to get -_-

Sarin

I'd advise you not to use status inducing armor cards unless you're fast enough to switch to ED when nescessary. And don't depend on it. People will quickly realize what you're up to and won't give you a chance to use it effectively.

Patrick

@Fludin
Sorry for not noticing about your last post. CK is a dagger not a sword. 1 Hand Quicken is for swords.