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Offline rubie123

What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« on: Oct 01, 2018, 05:26 AM »
What are your favorite Rates & Max Level /?
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Offline Playtester

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #1 on: Oct 09, 2018, 08:38 AM »
Base: 3x
Job: 3x
Drop: 10x Logarithmic

Offline Insomnia2000

Re: Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #2 on: Oct 09, 2018, 09:06 AM »
Base: 3x
Job: 3x
Drop: 10x Logarithmic
Seconding this as my favorite rates.

Base/Job: 3x
The difference between various monster's EXP rewards start to get out of hand the higher you go, so 3x is pretty ideal as to not cause some monsters to be vastly superior to others.

Drops: 10x for cards and equips, 1~3x for everything else. (Or just do Logarithmic like Playtester said)
Like EXP rewards, monster drops get too imbalanced the higher up you go. Monsters that already had drops at 90% will cap out in value while other mobs that had 1% drops will suddenly become massively more valuable to hunt comparatively.

Too high of rates removes a lot of balance between monsters imo.

Offline kassumi

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #3 on: Oct 16, 2018, 02:27 PM »
what is this "Logarithmic"?

Offline Trojal

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #4 on: Oct 17, 2018, 03:24 PM »
Logarithmic drops is an option in Hercules and rAthena you can enable for your drop rate formula.
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// Logarithmic drops scale drop rates in a non-linear fashion using the equation
// Droprate(x,y) = x * (5 - log(x)) ^ (ln(y) / ln(5))
// Where x is the original drop rate and y is the drop_rate modifier (the previously mentioned item_rate* variables)
// Use the following table for an idea of how the rate will affect drop rates when logarithmic drops are used:
// X: Original Drop Rate
// Y: Rate drop modifier (eg: item_rate_equip)
//  Y\X | 0.01 0.02  0.05  0.10  0.20  0.50  1.00  2.00  5.00 10.00 20.00
// -----+---------------------------------------------------------------
//   50 | 0.01 0.01  0.03  0.06  0.11  0.30  0.62  1.30  3.49  7.42 15.92
//  100 | 0.01 0.02  0.05  0.10  0.20  0.50  1.00  2.00  5.00 10.00 20.00
//  200 | 0.02 0.04  0.09  0.18  0.35  0.84  1.61  3.07  7.16 13.48 25.13
//  500 | 0.05 0.09  0.22  0.40  0.74  1.65  3.00  5.40 11.51 20.00 33.98
// 1000 | 0.10 0.18  0.40  0.73  1.30  2.76  4.82  8.28 16.47 26.96 42.69
// 2000 | 0.20 0.36  0.76  1.32  2.28  4.62  7.73 12.70 23.58 36.33 53.64
// 5000 | 0.50 0.86  1.73  2.91  4.81  9.11 14.45 22.34 37.90 53.91 72.53
//10000 | 1.00 1.67  3.25  5.28  8.44 15.24 23.19 34.26 54.57 72.67 91.13
//20000 | 2.00 3.26  6.09  9.59 14.83 25.49 37.21 52.55 77.70 97.95  100%
//50000 | 5.00 7.87 13.98 21.12 31.23 50.31 69.56 92.48  100%  100%  100%

Personally, I use an alternative logarithmic formula, which is just "extra chances at the item" so 5x drops on a 20% item would be 5 chances to get the item based on calculating probability. It works similar in effect, and it's not an arbitrary formula.
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// Droprate(x,y) = 1 - ((1 - x) ^ y)
Code: [Select]
// X: Original Drop Rate
// Y: Rate drop modifier (eg: item_rate_equip)
//  Y\X | 0.01 0.02  0.05  0.10  0.20  0.50  1.00  2.00  5.00 10.00 20.00
// -----+---------------------------------------------------------------
//   50 | 0.01 0.01  0.03  0.05  0.10  0.20  0.50  1.01  2.53  5.13 10.56
//  100 | 0.01 0.02  0.05  0.10  0.20  0.50  1.00  2.00  5.00 10.00 20.00
//  200 | 0.02 0.04  0.10  0.20  0.40  1.00  1.99  3.96  9.75 19.00 36.00
//  500 | 0.05 0.10  0.25  0.50  1.00  2.48  4.90  9.61 22.62 40.95 67.23
// 1000 | 0.10 0.20  0.50  1.00  1.98  4.89  9.56  18.29 40.13 65.13 89.26
// 2000 | 0.20 0.40  1.00  1.98  3.92  9.54 18.21 33.24 64.15 87.84 98.85
// 5000 | 0.50 1.00  2.47  4.88  9.53 22.17 39.50 63.58 92.31 99.48 100%
//10000 | 1.00 1.98  4.88  9.52 18.14 39.42 63.40 86.74 99.41 100% 100%
//20000 | 2.00 3.92  9.52 18.14 32.99 63.30 86.60 98.24 100% 100% 100%
//50000 | 5.00 9.52 22.12 39.36 63.25 91.84 99.34 100% 100% 100% 100%

And to relate to the topic, my favorite rates are anywhere from 3x - 10x exp and 1x - 5x drops. That way I can feel a sense of pride and accomplishment in my character(s).
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Offline roundbox

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 11, 2019, 01:10 PM »
99/70 super high rates, purely for PvP. But it seems like it doesn't exist these days after coming back from hiatus.

Offline Nishii

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2019, 06:32 AM »
Base: 25x
Job: 25x
Drop : 5x

Still having the authentic RO experience while not being bored by the slow progression.

Offline grubbykitty

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2019, 07:39 PM »
The first thing that shows up on rms after I come on here meownthz later............ this T_T

well, I hated grinding in ro and now come to just kill some cute monsters or just feel I like well, STALKER AND RO.... I always fell like im home when I play them.

So Mostly SHR where I dont actually have to level......

This time, I am composing a list of all mvps and gonna kill em all. ohko, or somesuch.

so Yeah those servers that let you deck out with +127 refiners and sticking 12 seyren windsor cards [10realistically as antistun and smthin orther cards are mandatory] , and buying everything on a mall or 20 bucks [zeny not irl moniezzz]

if I wanna play for the long haul........ welll playing alone with any irl frnds nop, used to play actual offical inro ages ago with irl guild etc etc..... now.... no .......

I'm literally typing this now.... instead of searching for shrs..... actually came here again so smthin else.

Offline Methedrine

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2019, 01:52 AM »
It depends on how often there are exp events, presence of things such as TIs and how easy it is to obtain manuals/bbg.
That being said, a good baseline is:
Base: 10~15x
Job: 10~15x
Drop: 5~15x

Renewal EXP penalty, no Drop penalty.

I find this to be the best balance between not destroying leveling progression but also not being overly boring and long.

Offline Naruto

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2019, 03:02 PM »
well i used to like 10x rates , try a few p servers trying to get rich early with the champs , watch unsellable diablous gear getting yelled.... then dead

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Offline Ataktos

Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 09:49 PM »
 Rates x1, Max lvl 500

Offline s6xens

Re: Re: What are your favorite Rates & Max Level?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2019, 03:08 AM »
Base: 25x
Job: 25x
Drop : 5x

Still having the authentic RO experience while not being bored by the slow progression.

 /lv Agree!
I play RO for having fun and recall the memories. Hope have active player for conversation and hunting together  /ho