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Ragnarok Online => General Discussion => Topic started by: ragnar0cknroll on Jan 18, 2018, 12:51 PM

Title: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: ragnar0cknroll on Jan 18, 2018, 12:51 PM
Do you think that Ragnarok Online is gaining or declining in popularity over the last few months?
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Oldschooler on Jan 18, 2018, 01:46 PM
As much as we see some populations jump back up, it's a dying game nonetheless.

Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: yC on Jan 18, 2018, 06:27 PM
I think it is gaining in popularity (in terms of publicity), a majority is gained from the official servers promotion in the last year when they did the relaunch in a few countries.  As for overall population, I'd say it is on a slow decline, because there are old people that come back here and there while others want to take a break from RO at some point.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: ragnar0cknroll on Jan 18, 2018, 06:35 PM
Quote from: yC on Jan 18, 2018, 06:27 PM
I think it is gaining in popularity (in terms of publicity), a majority is gained from the official servers promotion in the last year when they did the relaunch in a few countries.  As for overall population, I'd say it is on a slow decline, because there are old people that come back here and there while others want to take a break from RO at some point.

Very helpful, do you think it will be more popular in the next 6 months compared to the previous 6 months?  Are you optimistic about user growth in 2018 compared to 2017 or will it flat line?
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Blinzer on Jan 18, 2018, 08:58 PM
ragnarok died a long time ago

2009, to be precise
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Parachute on Jan 18, 2018, 11:31 PM
Quote from: ragnar0cknroll on Jan 18, 2018, 12:51 PM
Do you think that Ragnarok Online is gaining or declining in popularity over the last few months?

2 questions. when you say RO, you mean official servers or private servers?

**Summary of what i was supposed to say:

Official Servers had a huge hype last year. nostalgic feel as they gather old players and some younger generations to play RO again. You can ask different RO communities or websites, I bet they will tell you RO indeed gained popularity, because they can see their website page views increasing lately than any other years back.

EXE had the opportunity to make RO big in SEA regions. But as you may had noticed, they simply just f it up. I must say, 2017 was a harsh year for pservers to launch. If you are not good with advertising, there is no way you could beat official server's marketing and resources.

A lot will probably tell you that "RO died a long time ago." Maybe those who said that were pserver admins or players themselves that had been fed up of RO server kept dying. For them, everything simply became a cycle. But actually, it didn't. RO is still alive and kicking. it may had declined since starting way back in 2002-2004, but people still play the game. Point is, google all games excluding RO that had been released in 2002, 2003 or 2004. then, let me know which ones are still actively being played in 2018?

Yes it was a harsh year last year for pservers; however, official servers just promoted and brought RO back. If I will be honest, for me, that's an instant free advertising for us pserver admins. people will end up being lazy, they love the game but if they cannot win the competition and if the server is too grindy for them, they will be demotivated. People doesn't have the time to grind unlike their younger years. Same as what happened 10-15 years ago. The rise of pservers had begun. people will end up wanting to play pservers as it is more "ideal" for them.

Although, not all pserver admins are that optimistic. Mostly had been upset as they think no pserver could ever beat official one and just hoping for its demise. To answer your question, yes it is declining on the official side (note ROPH will soon merge all 3 servers into 1). but no, it is not declining in pserver-side. For one, my server CGRO, we are already expecting 1000-2000+ players during launch date.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: SukiChii on Jan 18, 2018, 11:38 PM
RO is alive because of potato internet and toasters.
Title: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Blinzer on Jan 20, 2018, 10:33 PM
Quote from: Parachute on Jan 18, 2018, 11:31 PM
A lot will probably tell you that "RO died a long time ago." Maybe those who said that were pserver admins or players themselves that had been fed up of RO server kept dying. For them, everything simply became a cycle. But actually, it didn't. RO is still alive and kicking. it may had declined since starting way back in 2002-2004, but people still play the game. Point is, google all games excluding RO that had been released in 2002, 2003 or 2004. then, let me know which ones are still actively being played in 2018?

no, it died a long time ago because everyone worth playing with in this game have done everything they needed to do in the game. also, everyone who seeked perfection in this game achieved it a long time ago, thrived and moved on with their lives, including myself. the game is old and flawed and there's nothing innovative in years, what reason would anyone have to play it? i do however think that a client rework would really help make this game more viable, the client interactions really didn't age well.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Prism~ on Jan 22, 2018, 10:42 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that we're in a decline. I think it's due to a few factors:

I'm sure there are lots more reasons to be added but I think these are the biggest problems.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Yuzo on Jan 25, 2018, 09:36 AM
ro not pumping like Tomorrowland, more like br Tomorrowland. game still fun but split. who here is on the spaceQ?
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Kris on Jan 28, 2018, 08:49 PM
Quote from: yC on Jan 18, 2018, 06:27 PM
I think it is gaining in popularity (in terms of publicity), a majority is gained from the official servers promotion in the last year when they did the relaunch in a few countries.  As for overall population, I'd say it is on a slow decline, because there are old people that come back here and there while others want to take a break from RO at some point.

idk what rock you've been living under but RO's popularity and appeal have been on a constant decline over the past decade. The game literally offers nothing new and with the constant rise of new and updated mmropgs, it's popularity will keep decreasing.

At this point there's only 2 reasons why people still play RO in 2k18:
1. Skill: RO requires no skill and people who generally suck at mmoropgs would find RO appealing
2. Nostalgia: Self explanatory
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: blame20 on Jan 29, 2018, 09:48 AM
RO is still very popular in Thailand. Official Servers and Private Servers. Most crowded private servers are in Episode 1,2 & 4. Been there and yeah, can't understand them as well as the NPC dialogues. June 2016, Ro Thailand gained 300k overall population. At some time in the last quarter of 2017, 100k or more total players on the official server. 10-25k players on classic private servers.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Corgers on Jan 29, 2018, 01:22 PM
Glad to hear we're going strong in some countries! Too bad none of the reboots found success - the world will be a much sadder place without RO.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: raphaelluigi on Jan 29, 2018, 07:41 PM
As long as those players from back then were still alive then this game will still too. I have seen a lot of old players coming back lately, maybe this game just got something in it that keeps some players to playback again?
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: SukiChii on Jan 30, 2018, 08:12 AM
Quote from: raphaelluigi on Jan 29, 2018, 07:41 PM
As long as those players from back then were still alive then this game will still too. I have seen a lot of old players coming back lately, maybe this game just got something in it that keeps some players to playback again?
They come back because of nostalgia, then they realize they can play something else and leave. I've seen old people come back to my old server and not last even a day.
Title: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Insomnia2000 on Jan 31, 2018, 08:20 AM
Quote from: blame20 on Jan 29, 2018, 09:48 AM
Most crowded private servers are in Episode 1,2 & 4.

This is something I'll never understand. Why are classic servers so popular outside the EU/US? There's so little to do in RO pre-renewal already. Why would you choose to stick in a stagnant early episode with nothing to do besides grind for levels and items? There's no areas that require coordinated partying, no instances, very few towns, minimal quests, etc. That has to get old quick.


Anyway, I agree that RO is still on a slow decline. I think we will eventually see only a handful of properly run RO pservers once people realize that having 5-10 players per server isn't very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: anbukakashi on Jan 31, 2018, 09:40 AM
Quote from: Insomnia2000 on Jan 31, 2018, 08:20 AM
This is something I'll never understand. Why are classic servers so popular outside the EU/US? There's so little to do in RO pre-renewal already. Why would you choose to stick in a stagnant early episode with nothing to do besides grind for levels and items? There's no areas that require coordinated partying, no instances, very few towns, minimal quests, etc. That has to get old quick.


Anyway, I agree that RO is still on a slow decline. I think we will eventually see only a handful of properly run RO pservers once people realize that having 5-10 players per server isn't very enjoyable.

One word: Pvp. Suppose that's three words.... oh well. By the way, this forum has way too many verifcations lmao.
Title: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Blinzer on Feb 01, 2018, 02:31 AM
Quote from: Kris on Jan 28, 2018, 08:49 PM
idk what rock you've been living under but RO's popularity and appeal have been on a constant decline over the past decade. The game literally offers nothing new and with the constant rise of new and updated mmropgs, it's popularity will keep decreasing.

At this point there's only 2 reasons why people still play RO in 2k18:
1. Skill: RO requires no skill and people who generally suck at mmoropgs would find RO appealing
2. Nostalgia: Self explanatory

> ro requires no skill

still waiting on that 1 v 1 kris ^_^
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Ralgondo on Apr 16, 2018, 02:04 PM
Declining obviously, It's not a fun game to be new to. It's a very frustrating game (rubber banding, etc) I got my wife to play it but she can't really get into it. Population is mostly veteran players who cycle in and out of the game.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: yC on Apr 16, 2018, 06:42 PM
I agree with that RO, especially pre-renewal, takes a lot of time to learn from classes, skills, gears and farming / leveling places.  Then there's different tactics when vs different mobs, MVPs, PvPs opponents or in WoEs  It is a never ending learning experience, I can't believe I spent that much time in RO back in the days.  When we grew up we have less time devoted to gaming unfortunately (*warning sign here for those that still have the luxury of time*).

It's good the veterans keep coming back so their knowledge can pass onto the next generation.  I mean, it take people to trial and error to develop the best way to do something and those veterans got that knowledge just like an interactive RO wiki  (points to some of you /heh).
Title: Re: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Kris on Apr 17, 2018, 03:38 AM
Quote from: Blinzer on Feb 01, 2018, 02:31 AM

still waiting on that 1 v 1 kris ^_^

lol you really wanna end your ro career before you even have one? (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_bxwwlz0_1.png)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Blinzer on Apr 17, 2018, 05:22 AM
Quote from: Kris on Apr 17, 2018, 03:38 AM
lol you really wanna end your ro career before you even have one? (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/rsz_bxwwlz0_1.png)

let's see it
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Hitsuomy on Apr 17, 2018, 07:23 AM
There are still some private servers with huge population but I see less and less options out there, most players just want to play the old and boring pre-re or classic server. Renewal brought so much new content, quests, instances, mechanics but most players didn't even try these features before going back to something they already knew. The innovation is also on decline, most servers just have the same basic set of features that you can find on almost EVERY other server, a few years ago you would see servers with a reset system or a low rate with a super high level cap, a ton of events, custom items, even custom classes and skills, it was super fun to enjoy a brand new world inside of a world you already knew. The servers just got more and more boring, today it's super hard to find a server that I can play for more than 2-3 weeks.  /sob

I wanted to say is: a few years ago innovation and different features were something that most players wanted, but today I mostly see the "different is worse" kind of player, it's sad and super boring.
Title: Re: RO Poll: Is Ragnarok Online gaining or declining in overall popularity?
Post by: Deidarac5 on Jun 27, 2018, 04:07 PM
I feel like a lot of the Population is faked in many servers so it could make it look like its growing but from my experience only the like top 3-4 servers are getting players now. At least players close to what a lot of servers were getting before.