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Offline october

no cast high wizards equips
« on: Jun 03, 2008, 05:17 AM »
any idea on what should i equip, so that i can have a no cast ? like dark illusion+dark lorD? hmmm  ???

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Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #1 on: Jun 03, 2008, 05:58 AM »
orleans zerom AOA Rocker Amon Ra Drops full buffs +10 food and BoG

Offline Majora_younglink

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #2 on: Jun 03, 2008, 06:35 AM »
^ Orleans isn't needed for inta cast. It actually makes it harder to get.

Dex food, Zerom cards, Beelze, Dark Lord Combo, Kathryne Keyron Cards in headgears on +10 refined equips, Robe of Cast, etc.

Or jut lots and lots of dex. Personally I don't like insta cast but meh.

Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #3 on: Jun 03, 2008, 06:49 AM »
^ how can you not need orleans glove? plus if you have a total of 150 dex then its already no cast so if you wear orleans gown the added cast time wont be bothering you at all.

mark_sanbeda

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Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #4 on: Jun 03, 2008, 06:57 AM »
^ Orleans isn't needed for inta cast. It actually makes it harder to get.

Dex food, Zerom cards, Beelze, Dark Lord Combo, Kathryne Keyron Cards in headgears on +10 refined equips, Robe of Cast, etc.

Or jut lots and lots of dex. Personally I don't like insta cast but meh.

Actually its better to go for the dex instead of using cards that reduces cast times coz you need to figure out how to make it 100% no cast and your also gonna sacrifice some slots to achieve this state :(


Offline Majora_younglink

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #5 on: Jun 03, 2008, 07:17 AM »
^ how can you not need orleans glove? plus if you have a total of 150 dex then its already no cast so if you wear orleans gown the added cast time wont be bothering you at all.

Because it doesn't affect cast at all. Its a nice wiz equip but not only is it hard to get on low rates but it doesn't help lower cast time.

^ Orleans isn't needed for inta cast. It actually makes it harder to get.

Dex food, Zerom cards, Beelze, Dark Lord Combo, Kathryne Keyron Cards in headgears on +10 refined equips, Robe of Cast, etc.

Or jut lots and lots of dex. Personally I don't like insta cast but meh.

Actually its better to go for the dex instead of using cards that reduces cast times coz you need to figure out how to make it 100% no cast and your also gonna sacrifice some slots to achieve this state :(

I'm assuming this is on a low rate in the above remark and the lower remark is for high rates/high lvl servers.

Also thats an opinion. Some wiz's don't really need slots to work.

Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #6 on: Jun 03, 2008, 07:23 AM »
it helps :-\  orleans glove[1] dex+2 Matk3% put Zerom then its Dex+5 two of them then its +10. and are you also assuming that beelze DL kathryne keryon cards are much easier to find than the orleans on a LR server?

Offline Majora_younglink

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #7 on: Jun 03, 2008, 08:06 AM »
it helps :-\  orleans glove[1] dex+2 Matk3% put Zerom then its Dex+5 two of them then its +10. and are you also assuming that beelze DL kathryne keryon cards are much easier to find than the orleans on a LR server?

Kathryne is fairly easy to get. As for Beelze I know for hell it isn't same as the DL set. But its worth it if you can get it. This is optimal by the way.

And percent lowers work better than dex if you make it work right.

mark_sanbeda

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Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #8 on: Jun 03, 2008, 08:16 AM »
it helps :-\  orleans glove[1] dex+2 Matk3% put Zerom then its Dex+5 two of them then its +10. and are you also assuming that beelze DL kathryne keryon cards are much easier to find than the orleans on a LR server?

Kathryne is fairly easy to get. As for Beelze I know for hell it isn't same as the DL set. But its worth it if you can get it. This is optimal by the way.

And percent lowers work better than dex if you make it work right.

that is if you make it work right... and also its going to be hard to get a +10 headgear on a LR server

Offline Jason

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #9 on: Jun 03, 2008, 08:49 AM »
it helps :-\  orleans glove[1] dex+2 Matk3% put Zerom then its Dex+5 two of them then its +10. and are you also assuming that beelze DL kathryne keryon cards are much easier to find than the orleans on a LR server?

Kathryne is fairly easy to get. As for Beelze I know for hell it isn't same as the DL set. But its worth it if you can get it. This is optimal by the way.

And percent lowers work better than dex if you make it work right.

that is if you make it work right... and also its going to be hard to get a +10 headgear on a LR server

LR consumes a lot of time in your life. People should get over LRs not unless you want to work hard for +10s for a year wherein it can be typed by GMs in a couple of seconds.
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Offline Pandora

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #10 on: Jun 03, 2008, 09:55 AM »
You either go high dex or high % reducing, doing both is kinda wasting. Going high dex is more doable, as the high % of reduction requires MVP cards.

High %:
2x Belzebub card in slotted earings. (60%)
1x Dark Lord card in footgear (30%)
1x Dark Illusion in glasses[1] or sunglasses[1]
1x +8 Drooping Lif[1] + Kathryne Keyron Card (8%)
1x Robe of Cast[1] + ? card (3%)
Total 101%

High dex:
2x Zerom + Orlean or Glove[1]
1x AOA
1x Observation Card + Armor[1] and some vit
1x Survival Dex Rod[1] + drops card
+ dex food as high as you can get
etc.
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Offline Guest

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #11 on: Jun 03, 2008, 06:40 PM »
lol all you need to have zero cast time is 150 dex..... ask them how u can get it.. cause im too lazy to make a build for it XDD

Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #12 on: Jun 03, 2008, 07:48 PM »
LR consumes a lot of time in your life. People should get over LRs not unless you want to work hard for +10s for a year wherein it can be typed by GMs in a couple of seconds.

I dont need +10s and it doesn't really consume a lot of time in my life i can get a lvl 99 trans within a month without proper equips and without out playing 12hrs a day.
 

Offline Ashe

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #13 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:05 AM »
Instant Cast is overrated. Sure, you'lle cast fast, but you'lle be missing a LOT of defensive gears for pvp and woe.

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Offline october

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #14 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:09 AM »
which one is better AoA or +10 katherine keyron headgear??

ramen hat also is useful(dex +4) ;)

mark_sanbeda

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Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #15 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:33 AM »
Ramen Hat? never heard of it..  :o

AOA for LR
+10 Kathyrne for HR SHR

Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #16 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:43 AM »
Instant Cast is overrated. Sure, you'lle cast fast, but you'lle be missing a LOT of defensive gears for pvp and woe.
Not True. there are still room for you to put defensive gears and cards such cranial immune deviling(for Lk's maybe?).. true instant cast has many blind spots thats why we tend to make it up to no cast.

Offline Jason

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #17 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:43 AM »
LR consumes a lot of time in your life. People should get over LRs not unless you want to work hard for +10s for a year wherein it can be typed by GMs in a couple of seconds.

I dont need +10s and it doesn't really consume a lot of time in my life i can get a lvl 99 trans within a month without proper equips and without out playing 12hrs a day.
 

the point was about hunting for +10 RARE stuffs, for instance a 0.03 drop rate of a headgear from a certain boss, like hell dream of it to + 10 lololol. All i know people got used to bots in official RO servers, and feel like zeny,items are so easy, as well as leveling. Well, 12 hours a day of gameplay surely waste the time of a gamer. We're talking about RO here, wherein there had been a lots of exploits, issues, and the fact that people in the world knows all the dirty stuffs about this game, it's hard to convince old RO players to play in low rates again - Usually they play in servers which has its names already(won't mention) - unless we're talkng about the youth nowadays who haven't tried RO - that would be the main target of this market. It's ok to build your "dream" low rate server. But try to remember the chances, and how much "advertisement" would you do to convince players to play. All i know, 70% of the people who quit RO/official or not/ never try to find a good server again.

Well if the players try to ask themselves. Which would they prefer to play?
x5/x5/x3 server or x10/x10/x10 server with the same content(for example, a hero server copy)?
or a 2k/2k/2k server with *unique* quests, customs and implementations, level 255++?
Don't just ask the intellectual people, but try to ask the masses who play RO. As I said, this is private server,it's open, and all kinds of people can play your server. Ask the majority, try to make a survey lol.

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Offline baseballGuy

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #18 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:52 AM »
true that many would prefer to play on the HR SHR but what makes me still play LR servers are the builds... you only get to have limited stat points, limited skill points, max aspd of 190 and stats that dont exceed 99.. and thats what HR server doesn't have..

Offline Jason

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #19 on: Jun 04, 2008, 06:54 AM »
uh.
true that many would prefer to play on the HR SHR but what makes me still play LR servers are the builds... you only get to have limited stat points, limited skill points, max aspd of 190 and stats that dont exceed 99.. and thats what HR server doesn't have..
Ah maybe you mean the "challenge". Why not then play the official servers for that?

@topic - excuse us. well, it seems like your question has been answered. Maybe i'll stop replying up to this point.
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Offline Pandora

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #20 on: Jun 04, 2008, 09:31 AM »
LR VS HR is not a debate that will ever get "solved", different people have different playing style, preference and time available, to each their own.

I personally love Instant Cast or the more achievable "very fast cast", you can still manage some defensive gear (mainly a thara) and def with + upgrades on your gears. Even with 99 dex you can still get high int and do very decent damage, specially with SG10.
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Offline Jason

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #21 on: Jun 04, 2008, 10:37 AM »
LR VS HR is not a debate that will ever get "solved", different people have different playing style, preference and time available, to each their own.
aye.. well for low rates, it would need very very greeaattttttt patience and responsibility for it to be trusted by people. Also a group of people well popular in official servers to pull out the people there to play your server.

However the big fishes are out there, like RBO,AnthemRO, which has its credibility, and more likely people will just try this out rather than the others.i also admire www.feelro.nu for having a successful launch, they really researched well + their tactics in recruitment are perfect.
Have you ever heard about this?
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« Last Edit: Jun 04, 2008, 10:39 AM by Helrouis »
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Offline Pandora

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #22 on: Jun 04, 2008, 04:06 PM »
No, I never actually never heard that, the original one about girls sounds pretty shallow XD
« Last Edit: Jun 09, 2008, 09:02 AM by Pandora »
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mark_sanbeda

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Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #23 on: Jun 08, 2008, 07:18 AM »
OMG?!?!  :-*

Offline Dagsie

Re: no cast high wizards equips
« Reply #24 on: Mar 24, 2017, 09:13 AM »
Seemingly low rate:
Hwiz at job 70 = 9 bonus dex
99 dex stat + 9 dex (job level) + 10 dex (NOG) + 3 dex (armor) + 3/4 (apple of archer/ramen hat) + 3 Dex (Thorn Staff) + 10 (Blessing) + 10 (Hwergelmir's)
= 146/147 dex
+ Box of gloom (Level 1 attention concetrate) = +3% dex
More or less 150 dex, no cast.

You can also add Robo Eyes, and Pencil in Mouth or Shaving Cream for more dex.

If you're playing at a high rate server and want to go the 0 dex no cast
3 +10 headgears with Kathryne Card = 30%
Orlean's Server + Orlean's Gloves Combo = 10%
2 Berze = 60%
All in all = 100% no cast
Max vit max int build

To the guy who's saying that you can't have defensive items when you get 150 dex, well you're a hwiz, you shouldn't be going in the frontlines during WoE. Not to mention that if you're having a hard time getting high dex, I think you shouldn't even be worrying about WoEs. Hide behind your safety wall (you do have that skill), you can put a thara frog on your valkyrie shield, that's 30% demihuman redux, 20% reduced damage from shadow, water, fire, and ghost (IIRC), so that should probably keep you alive when you get hit by most skills. Spammed skills would probably kill you though, just like everyone else. But meh, if you're pretty strong and have FBH and HW Card, they probably won't even get close to you.