Most expensive server costs monthly?

[Final]

Seeing as how the creator of this topic is talking about me and my server I might as well reply... Since I don't like people spreading lies about me.

Where the hell does it say its about you? huh?  I don't see your name anywhere in the Op's first post.
Great you posted your server's fees, awesome you contributed, that's cool and all...but if someone wants to think that a server own is trying to get donations, then let them.  For all you know, could just be some random server he is talking about.  <_<

[Pandora]

I'm guessing Kisuka may have had a discussion with the OP on their server about this already, also in Mad Niz' "Current Server" option it says "LuminaRO, RRO". (RRO = Ragnarok Revolution)

[Kisuka]

Wow, geez Final, calm down. I know it's about my server because he's reviewed my server multiple times (hes using his reviews as a message board, which i believe is against the rules of RMS?) http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=userfindcomment&uid=93707

[Final]

Wow, geez Final, calm down. I know it's about my server because he's reviewed my server multiple times (hes using his reviews as a message board, which i believe is against the rules of RMS?) http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=userfindcomment&uid=93707

Lol.  It;s an open discussion..if the OP has motives other wise..than..well...they are a retard XDD  but meh who cares..oh and..that is really lame for someone to use the review as a message board XDD

[Tande]

Do most of these people have some sort of day job?  Or rely on donations alone to pay for it?

That's incredibly insane and irresponsible and a waste of cash.  OTHER people's cash.

[Pandora]

Well.. I can't speak for other servers, but in heRO's case, players donate to help the server because they like it, but I do have a full time day job, if the donations don't cover the server's fees I pay whatever is left. Of course, if the donation suddenly dropped and no one pitched in anymore I would probably reduce the amount we pay for publicity. I've never ever pushed players to donate or threaten them to close if we didn't receive enough money like I've seen other servers do. The donation page is just there on the website/forum and players do it willingly. I post a list of the server's expenses on the forums, and no one has complained about their money being wasted so far.

However, the majority of private server admin don't seem to be willing to absorb the cost of running their server, most rely on donation exclusively and on more than one occasion on these boards we've heard of admins inflating the numbers to receive more than they actually need (not saying this is Kisuka's case).

"incredibly insane and irresponsible and a waste of cash.  OTHER people's cash."
I just call it greedy, insane/irresponsible would imply they don't know exactly what they're doing XD

[Denia]

I'm done helping Talis out with paying for server bills (had a bit of a falling out with some server people so I'm done there hah), but it most definitely is over $2000 per month. Here's just some of the costs directly from my credit card statement online. This is the last 120 days, I can't seem to pull up more than that from my statements online. At least he sold his car so he's paying me back now. Moral of the story, Aegis is f*** expensive, so is iweb.

Mar 3, 2010       Mar 3, 2010        USAA.COM PAYMENT-THANKS
   $800.00
   Feb 26, 2010     Feb 26, 2010    USAA.COM PAYMENT-THANKS
   $500.00
   Feb 26, 2010     Feb 26, 2010    FOREIGN TRAN CHG
   ($22.28)
   Feb 26, 2010     Feb 26, 2010    IWEB TECHNOLOGIES
   ($2,228.00)
   Feb 9, 2010     Feb 9, 2010    FOREIGN TRAN CHG
   ($28.12)
   Feb 9, 2010     Feb 9, 2010    IWEB TECHNOLOGIES
   ($2,812.00)
   Jan 5, 2010     Jan 5, 2010    USAA.COM PAYMENT-THANKS
   $100.00
   Dec 16, 2009     Dec 16, 2009    IWEB TECHNOLOGIES
INCLUDES FOREIGN TRAN CHG $21.96    ($2,217.96)

Not sure which invoice this is... but here are a few of the server invoices. I think this is the webserver.

Webserver Invoice 1/30/2010

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1.00 - Dual-Power - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 219.00 $US
1.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Xeon Quad Core 2.0GHz - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Xeon Quad Core 2.0GHz - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 15.00 $US
5.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : -5.00 $US
1.00 - 500GB SATA2 - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 10.00 $US
1.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-190cn.4.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total (including taxes if applicable) :
309.00 $US

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 Really not sure which one this is 1/4/2010

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1.00 - Dual-Power - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 219.00 $US
1.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Xeon Quad Core 2.0GHz - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Xeon Quad Core 2.0GHz - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 15.00 $US
5.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : -5.00 $US
1.00 - 500GB SATA2 - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 10.00 $US
1.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-240cn.3.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Dual CPU Servers Rack - privaterack-dualcpu.anthemro.com : 349.00 $US
1.00 - Internal Switch - cl-t193-05sh.1GBPS-LOCAL-switch.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Cisco ASA 5505 - cl-t194-05ih.firewall.anthemro.com : 149.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 4 - cl-t194-05ih.firewall.anthemro.com : 99.00 $US
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total (including taxes if applicable) :
906.00 $US

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1/12/2010

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1.00 - WIN2003 Standard (EN) - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - WIN2003 Standard (EN) - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t098-070cl.anthemro.com : 10.00 $US
1.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 10.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t098-070cl.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t092-230cl.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Fedora by Red Hat - cl-t092-230cl.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Debian - cl-t098-070cl.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - NOW-VI - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 219.00 $US
1.00 - C-Intense - cl-t092-230cl.anthemro.com : 149.00 $US
1.00 - NOW-VII - cl-t098-070cl.anthemro.com : 249.00 $US
1.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 50.00 $US
1.00 - HD 320GB - cl-t098-070cl.anthemro.com : 15.00 $US
1.00 - HD 320GB - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 15.00 $US
1.00 - 2 x Xeon Dual-Core Dempsey 3.0GHz - cl-t193-200cn.anthemro.com : 25.00 $US
1.00 - Budget-Performance - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 99.00 $US
1.00 - 500GB SATA2 - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 20.00 $US
10.00 - Product Discount - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : -10.00 $US
1.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 25.00 $US
15.00 - Product Discount - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : -15.00 $US
1.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Windows 2008 STD EN - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 35.00 $US
1.00 - Add. Monthly Traffic - 1500GB - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 0.00 $US
1.00 - Core2 Duo 3.16GHz - cl-t088-114cn.server.kimberly.com : 15.00 $US
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Total (including taxes if applicable) :
981.00 $US

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This is when they tried to get a quote on a 6 month payment

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6.00 - Dual-Power - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 1,314.00 $US
65.70 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -65.70 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
6.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 90.00 $US
90.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -90.00 $US
6.00 - 500GB SATA2 - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 60.00 $US
60.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -60.00 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 60.00 $US
60.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -60.00 $US
6.00 - Network Adapter 10/100/1000 - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : 30.00 $US
30.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-220cn.anthemro.com : -30.00 $US
6.00 - Dual-Power - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 1,314.00 $US
65.70 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -65.70 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
6.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 90.00 $US
90.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -90.00 $US
6.00 - 500GB SATA2 - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 60.00 $US
60.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -60.00 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 60.00 $US
60.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -60.00 $US
6.00 - Network Adapter 10/100/1000 - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : 30.00 $US
30.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-230cn.1.anthemro.com : -30.00 $US
6.00 - Dual-Power - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 1,314.00 $US
120.01 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -120.01 $US
59.70 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -59.70 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Managed Level 1 - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 0.00 $US
6.00 - 4GB RAM - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 90.00 $US
4.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -4.50 $US
6.00 - 150GB Raptor 10K Rpm - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 270.00 $US
270.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -270.00 $US
6.00 - 150GB Raptor 10K Rpm - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 330.00 $US
16.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -16.50 $US
6.00 - 150GB Raptor 10K Rpm - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 330.00 $US
16.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -16.50 $US
6.00 - 150GB Raptor 10K Rpm - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 330.00 $US
16.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -16.50 $US
6.00 - RAID-10 Hardware - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 450.00 $US
22.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -22.50 $US
6.00 - Windows 2003 STD EN - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 210.00 $US
10.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -10.50 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - Xeon Quad Core 3.0GHz - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 480.00 $US
24.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -24.00 $US
6.00 - 100Mbps port - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 60.00 $US
3.00 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -3.00 $US
6.00 - Network Adapter 10/100/1000 - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : 30.00 $US
1.50 - Product Discount - cl-t193-210cn.2.anthemro.com : -1.50 $US
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Total (including taxes if applicable) :
9,102.89 $US

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But in any case, he does care about the server, enough for him to sell his own car to repay me, and to pay for the server to make up costs. Dumb, but he does care. Shoulda listened to me back when they weren't in trouble, to change to eA. And it was pretty dumb of me to trust him and loan him money, but hey, at least he sold his car to pay me back >_>

As for Zone, and them getting "banned from Paypal," it's something that paypal does. Hell, look at foobar2000. They got their Paypal frozen at around the same time Anthem got theirs frozen. And they're just a freeware audio player asking for donations.

http://www.foobar2000.org/?page=News

"2009-12-31
The donation button has been removed due to PayPal being thieves.
Thanks to everybody who donated so far, your funds mostly got through. "

[adhelle]

Agree with Pandora 100%
The basic server costs are really cheap.
Everone saying their server costs 2k a month is a big liar >.>
I say that because of my own server
I started Lumina paying 50$ montly on a vps and using my old webhost. Easy to pay when you have a job.
It could even be cheaper if I had used SIP, for example. It really covers all the needs for small amount of players.
With the increase of players, and donations started coming I moved hosts a few times. I currently pay 159$ monthly for a dedicated with x4 cpu and 6gb ram. If by some reason people stop donating, Id still be able to pay it. Even if a server used 10 of those it wouldnt cost 2k. And do you know any server using 10 of those? Even if it was windows, windows servers are only like 20-50$ more.
What makes big costs on my server are the extras, like advertsing, softwares, etc. Ive already spent 211$ on a 30 day ad on top200 for example.
I can't afford things like that, but thats what the donations are for. If people stop donating, all I have to do is cut the extras and the server would still be running normally. Which I personally believe wouldnt be necessary, since on december there were so many donations that I even gave part of it to a cancer foundation.
Being myself an admin, I have nothing against using whats left of donations for personal uses as long as everything is being done to improve the server always when possible and needed. But I'm seriously against SCAM.
Seriously, if someone tells you "I spend 2k on the server, please donate or server will close", they are just trying to scam you, pushing you to donate. Those are just the type of admins I avoided when I was a player.

[Tom~]

@Adhelle, in AnthemRO's case, you're wrong.

AnthemRO is using Aegis, the official software, which is really expensive to mantain. :/

[adhelle]

why do they keep it then?
=x
i know its probably a huge headache to do that, but i think the admin should be working to change it to eathena, mainly if he is running through financials problems.

P.S.: but anyway, i have also met many pservers running eathena that tell players they need 1k+, one of then even said 3k was needed.

[Denia]

Yeah, my credit card debt is no joke haha. And those bills are the real deal. Though yeah you probably think I just filled random s*** in. Most people do since there have been so many past people who lie about random stuff like that. Aegis, while can be run on ONE machine, it isn't efficient to do as such with so many people, with the logs, etc.

And anyway...

They keep it because it's Aegis. The server was originally Aegis, Talis liked Aegis, and despite my BEGGING him to make the switch, he wouldn't do it since:

1. He likes Aegis, had tried eA a long time ago, thought it wasn't stable, stuck to that idea.
2. Doesn't like the game play differences on eA
3. Believe people would leave if the server were to switch to eA. (I think maybe like, 5 people on the server really actually care about the server software being Aegis etc).

Well in any case, they're trying to make the switch now, but I think it might be too late to do as such seeing as how funds are etc. But hey, if they make it, then hooray for them.

[Sarin]

This makes me curious, what's the actual gameplay differewnce between eA and Aegis?

[DeePee]

Mainly skill formulas/behaviour, but also some things like ASPD/Aftercast Delay (which the aRO staff is apparently now struggling with). eAthena is generally a lot..."faster". A lot of this can be fixed by changing some values in the config files but there are also quite some things that are plain wrong.

Not sure if this is still bugged on eA, but when we converted to eA, it behaved completely wrong with Sinxes using 2 daggers and a shield. If they'd enchant poison with 2 daggers on, then switch one dagger for a shield, the poison would go away.
Another example is the parent/child party share system. This has been bugged on eAthena for like...forever.

In general, the both are very alike. It's mainly the small things that you don't notice easily that are different and have quite an effect if not taken care of. People who have always used eAthena won't really notice them, but if you're a server that has always been on Aegis, things like these are a thorn in the eye.

[Revenant]

Most I'd heard before this topic per month was $300.

I pay...

$38 a month for my VPS
$15.60 yearly for my domain name
$107.40 yearly for my web hosting
$17.70 every 6 months for a mumble server (Open source VoIP server)

[Tande]

I went from playing eAthena servers to playing the official servers, obviously using Aegis.  The first thing that hit me was the outrageous lag, but otherwise I couldn't really tell the difference.

I pay:
25 bucks a month for VPS
50 bucks a year for the webspace, I split the base cost of 100 bucks with my fiancee who also uses it.
aaand this year I spent a grand total of 99 cents for the domain.

I have a feeling I pay some of the cheapest bills :p