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Offline kimimaro

Luna Kaleet or Mace
« on: Jun 29, 2010, 06:47 AM »
I'm playing high rate ser so I wonder which is better? ???


Offline Sarin

Re: Luna Kaleet or Mace
« Reply #1 on: Jun 29, 2010, 07:10 AM »
If it's over 99/70, mace.

Offline Fantaxy

Re: Luna Kaleet or Mace
« Reply #2 on: Jun 30, 2010, 05:01 AM »
Lunakaligo [3]   [One Hand]
Luna Kaleet   

Attack   110
A big dark fry pan that looks like its met its age.
[Base Strength >= 77]
ASPD + 4%, Causes Stun effect to enemies by 15% chance.
When a Brute, Plant or Fish Type monster is killed, 5% Chance to drop a food item.

Mace [4]   [One Hand]
Attack   37   

+10 mace if not Luna Kaleet

Also high rate or low rate?
Im expecting low rate if not
+10 mace will be the best.

Offline mahawirasd

Re: Luna Kaleet or Mace
« Reply #3 on: Jul 04, 2010, 11:57 PM »
mace is 37 ATK. At +10 that's 47 + rnd(1-9)

while luna kaleet is 110 atk. At just +5 it's 125 and 140 + rnd(1-24) at +8 (optimal imho)

that's an average of 70-85 ATK difference.

So that means the only way mace[4] has a definite advantage over luna kaleet imho is when that extra 20% card gives more than 85 ATK from STR bonus alone. That is really not achievable easily at low rates where you would need all the dex you can get and people usually opt for 110-120 STR which leads to 231-264 ATK which means 20% from that is only around 45-55 ATK...

so to get 85 ATK from str you would need ~ 425 ATK from STR which means 160 STR where (160+(16^2)) = 416 ATK...

remember, that means at 160 STR, damage from mace[4] is MORE OR LESS THE SAME as a Lunakaligo[3].

So only go for mace[4] if you can get at least or more than 170 STR. And even then with such high rates you can probably farm a +10 Lunakaligo which leads to 160 + rnd(1-40) ATK which means now you'll need to see whether 60% from that is <, =, or > than 80% from the mace[4]'s 47 + rnd(1-9) ATK...

in the end i would say: 200 STR or GTFO!


Offline Fantaxy

Re: Luna Kaleet or Mace
« Reply #4 on: Jul 05, 2010, 04:45 AM »
errr your forgetting that.

Status cards > Damage
At such high rates it is more easier to find mvp cards than upgrade a luna kaleet.
SK are such cards that boost possibility of winning more than dmg.
And I don't quite agree with your formula. IDK why but its wrong.