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is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?

it dependes to the personal skills of the enemies
5 (27.8%)
yes
2 (11.1%)
no
6 (33.3%)
yes but it's good in WoE
4 (22.2%)
That skill should have teamwork for the enemy not to escape
0 (0%)
you should have card that disables enemies then Grand Cross them away.
1 (5.6%)
GM should change the casting time of GC to 1 second because is hard to find cards.
0 (0%)
GM should make the casting time of GC to 0.2 seconds but making the delay after the skill is used to 2 seconds
0 (0%)

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Offline KingRoan

is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« on: Apr 05, 2008, 06:47 am »
GM could you remove the casting time of GRAND CROSS? >:( I get mad when I'm using it because enemies at PVP always run away and attack after Grand Cross was finished[they come back to attack me because Grand Cross damages the user]. It's also ok if you just make it 1 second cast time but more delay after using it. >:(
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is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« on: Apr 05, 2008, 06:47 am »

Offline Guest

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #1 on: Apr 05, 2008, 11:57 am »
GM could you remove the casting time of GRAND CROSS?
thats something u have to ask ur server's GM's


hmmm but i find GC a rather useful skill if u get lucky u can take out a whole bunch of ppl all at once....

Offline KingRoan

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #2 on: Apr 06, 2008, 02:07 am »
  :-\yes ur right if I was lucky but how about if I use GC in 1on1?*sigh* of course he/she will run right?
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Offline Guest

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 06, 2008, 02:19 am »
one on one is a lil harder to get if off.... most ppl just run when they see it coming son unless u back them into a corner or their chasing u or something like that its hard to hit ppl with it

Offline yC

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 06, 2008, 04:03 pm »
sometimes i think i should give jjj the ability to move threads to the right place, he simply reply to everything even they don't belong there.

moving to RO section, this is the RMS section.

Offline Idealistic

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #5 on: Apr 06, 2008, 05:11 pm »
The only time you'll get off a GC on a person is if you have super fast cast rate, OR if the opponent is currently fighting with one of your teammates.

For one on one situations, either Bash or Shield Smite them until they get stunned before GCing them.  Or if you have a Pest card that works too, but most of the time you'll be using a Marc anyways.  If they turn to stone, specifically a Sin who uses backslide, make sure you run behind them and space yourself 4 cells from them so you'll hit them even when they do a backslide.

Or maybe the enemy will be noob and just keep meleeing you and you can just GC.

Though, if they have high INT or high M.DEF, your GC will be pretty weak.  It's still good nontheless.  Besides... You shouldn't expect to be able to kill ALL classes.  I always say, I'll leave the high INT characters to be killed by my high ATK teammates.

Offline Guest

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 06, 2008, 06:04 pm »
sometimes i think i should give jjj the ability to move threads to the right place, he simply reply to everything even they don't belong there.

lol well i just like to reply okay? sides i don't bother to say "this is in the wrong place" cause theres nothing i can do about it XDD

Offline KingRoan

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #7 on: Apr 09, 2008, 02:27 am »
Thank you all! ;D
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Offline Pandora

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #8 on: Apr 09, 2008, 01:38 pm »
It depends on the personal skills of the crusader/paladin.

If you're not skillful enough, switch builds, don't ask any GM to lower casting speed or to change any skills for you. You have to adapt to RO, not the other way around.
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Offline superja

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 09, 2008, 06:14 pm »
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If you're not skillful enough, switch builds, don't ask any GM to lower casting speed or to change any skills for you. You have to adapt to RO, not the other way around.

And lo, they crieth AMEN! If you can't kill them using gc, try something else or get better, you're obviously not a gc-type crusader and you'd be better off with a different skill.

Offline Royal Guard

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 10, 2008, 06:49 am »
well...........
i think it is rather useful, use GC while they are casting /no1
if they can do instant cast, wel.....
i don know how to beat them using GC, but i know that shield chain is always useful ;D ;D ;D

Offline silverwing14

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #11 on: Apr 18, 2008, 05:57 am »
y dont u use angeling card? so GC will miss[on da pala/crusader only not on da enemy] even if they run as da GC cast down GC wont affect u either. em i right??

Offline CookieEater

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 18, 2008, 08:04 am »
GC has a 20% HP cost in addition to the self-damaging effect. Angeling does not cover that, since it's in the casting cost.
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Offline silverwing14

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 18, 2008, 08:15 am »
rly?? but in other RO it is effctive. so it means. it depnds on RO u play  :o :o

Offline Plague

Re: is GRAND CROSS useless in PVP?
« Reply #14 on: Apr 18, 2008, 08:24 am »
I used to love GC. Then I grew fond to Shield Saders. But Its not useless, its good if you know what your doing and don't just try to spam it on everyone.
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