How to kill Bow Guardian?

Started by Nevaeth, Jul 31, 2010, 02:53 PM

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Nevaeth

Yeah, so I'm trying to farm Orleans Gloves but I can't even hit the basterd :<

I pneuma'd, use strong shield yet he still hits me and with all the mobs around I cant even get close to him.

I'd really appreciate it if someone would tell me how

Thanks~


EDIT: I'm using champ to asura, but I want to know the eq for paladin too, herd they can solo it better.

am staying in a 50/50/25 99/70 server

Azma

This isn't exactly the kind of monster that's made to be soloed... Nevertheless, here are some tips if you really want to try, but I ain't promising anything.

-Try fighting him with a Crusader who has the right gears to resist him, Auto Guard, Reflect Shield and DEFENDER.
-Get an Asura Strike monk, try to teleport near him, Asura Strike him, and teleport away. Regenerate your SP, and repeat until he dies.
-Get a Super Novice who has very high DEX and can resist at least 2-3 strikes from him (Ya sure do need good gears), get close, launch a Bolt, and teleport away. Repeat.
-Get a Clown/Gypsy with very high DEX, and AV or Tarot him. Teleport away. Repeat.
-Get a Ninja with the clone thing that will make you evade attacks. Get close. Launch an attack. Teleport away. Repeat.
-Get a Lord Knight with Berserk and fight him like a brute. Repeat. Having a card which regenerates you as you attack might help.
-Get a Stalker with Chase Walk and get close to him undetected. Attack. Teleport away. Repeat.
-Get a SBK SinX. SBK him. Teleport away. Repeat.
-Get a FA Sniper. FA. Teleport away. Repeat.

Those methods sure do seem to take a good amount of time, but it's the price of trying to solo such a monster.

It might not work at all actually; it's not like I ever tried it.

Dean Stark

The hardest part on getting ready is the stats. First of all you need to have at least 310 flee to safely dodge it (320 flee makes it miss 5% of the time but 310 is ok). Second, you need a hit of at 180 to perfectly hit it. The only job I've been able to successfully farm it is SinX. If your server implements 3rd jobs, then it's simple even with Shura.

Sample SinX build. For gears, flee is very necessary. This is assuming that the server has the necessary gears:
Upper Head: Feather Beret
Mid Head: Angel/Evil Wing Ears or Vanberk sunnies
Weapon: +5 or higher Minorous or AK Infiltrator
Armor: Pasana Dragon Vest
Garment: Kavac Icarus Dragon Manteau (must be +4)
Shoes: whichever gives you the highest HP. Best is Green Ferus Diablos Boots or Variants. Just pick whatever slotted footgear there is + Green Ferus
Accessories: Vesper Core 02, Mantis Rings

As for stats:
-Strength
Depending on what you got equipped you need it on multiples of 10. With the Ears + Mantis Rings, you get +9 str. Add that to a SinX's highest job lvl bonus str (+9) and you get +18 so str should be 82. With Ears + Core 02's, get 84 Str. Sunnies + Rings, get 81 Str, Sunnies + Core 02's 83 Str.

-Agi
Needs to be 99 since Flee is very important. With the Dragon Combo, Kavac Icarus, base lvl 99, highest job lvl bonus of Agi, Infiltrator, Improve Dodge and Increase Agi, you'd most likely have a flee greater than 308.

-Dex
With Blessing, having 50 Dex, base lvl 99 and job lvl 70, you'd most likely get 169 hit. I suggest pumping it to get at least 172-175 hit. If you can reach the 180 mark, better.

Use the extra stat points for Vit. Leave Int and Luk alone.

-Always have Blessing, Agi Up, Assumptio, EDP and Soul Link on. Get Sonic Acceleration as well. It takes 3 SBs to kill a Bow Master. Good luck and happy hunting. Frustrating? Yes.

I didn't include Foods so if someone has a better suggestion, feel free to post.

CookieEater

Quote from: Azma on Jul 31, 2010, 11:55 PM
-Get a Lord Knight with Berserk and fight him like a brute. Repeat. Having a card which regenerates you as you attack might help.
-Get a Stalker with Chase Walk and get close to him undetected. Attack. Teleport away. Repeat.
-Lord Knights cannot regenerate or get healed during Frenzy, except by the Geographer skill that heals 1000-something HP.

-Guardians count as Bosses, and see through all stealth, even Chase Walk. Or they did last time I was there, anyway.
B>Positive Karma, /w offers pl0x

Sarin

Crit sniper. Never had problems with guardians while leveling in thor 3.

Toztie

What a s*** tips. Flee? The b**** stuns like mad.

This is how i used to do it on a champ. High dex and still enough stats to 1 hit. and just rush it with crainial strong shield and like bloody butterfly card or so. Cast asura> bam> teleport.

A paladin used to work. Like shield chaining him. But a champ works way faster. So idk if you have in dungeon warps there, id go for champ and teleport. Also you can try to lure a byorge to the entrance and keep killing its mobs. It will resummon them. Infinit bow guards.

Sarin

Quote from: Toztie on Aug 01, 2010, 06:00 AM
What a s*** tips. Flee? The b**** stuns like mad.

Can't stun you if he can't hit you. Sniper works perfectly on them, with added bonus that only thing that good sniper can't solo there is Ifrit.

Dean Stark

#7
Quote from: Toztie on Aug 01, 2010, 06:00 AM
What a s*** tips. Flee? The b**** stuns like mad.

This is how i used to do it on a champ. High dex and still enough stats to 1 hit. and just rush it with crainial strong shield and like bloody butterfly card or so. Cast asura> bam> teleport.

A paladin used to work. Like shield chaining him. But a champ works way faster. So idk if you have in dungeon warps there, id go for champ and teleport. Also you can try to lure a byorge to the entrance and keep killing its mobs. It will resummon them. Infinit bow guards.

My, I guess you underestimate the effect of Flee vs Bow Masters. SinX, Sniper, whatver jobs that can keep it at bay with high DPS or Bust Damage is good enough. Why bash someone who knows what they're doing? Heh.

The Byorgue thing doesn't always work. Kill a Bow Master, leaving a Sword Master, and it might summon 2 SWORD MASTERS instead making you deal with 3 + a Byorgue.

Toztie

Quote from: Dean Stark on Aug 01, 2010, 10:14 AM
Quote from: Toztie on Aug 01, 2010, 06:00 AM
What a s*** tips. Flee? The b**** stuns like mad.

This is how i used to do it on a champ. High dex and still enough stats to 1 hit. and just rush it with crainial strong shield and like bloody butterfly card or so. Cast asura> bam> teleport.

A paladin used to work. Like shield chaining him. But a champ works way faster. So idk if you have in dungeon warps there, id go for champ and teleport. Also you can try to lure a byorge to the entrance and keep killing its mobs. It will resummon them. Infinit bow guards.

My, I guess you underestimate the effect of Flee vs Bow Masters. SinX, Sniper, whatver jobs that can keep it at bay with high DPS or Bust Damage is good enough. Why bash someone who knows what they're doing? Heh.

The Byorgue thing doesn't always work. Kill a Bow Master, leaving a Sword Master, and it might summon 2 SWORD MASTERS instead making you deal with 3 + a Byorgue.

If you kill a bow guard he ALWAYS summons a new bow guard + a new sword. If you have a proper asura champ this should be a problem you 1 hit them all. Thus unlimited bow guards @ easy killing point.

Dean Stark

#9
Doesn't ALWAYS summon a Bow Master. I've been doing this routine for like 2 years with the same job and consistency and he doesn't ALWAYS summon a Bow Master. Maybe if you've done intense farming like I've done, then you'll see.

If he ALWAYS summons a Bow Master on your side, then good for you. Why not just accept that we have different encounters? This, btw, is from MY experience. If you're trying to squeeze YOUR experience into MINE, then that's just rude.

I'm just posting out of observation and experience. Not to see who's right or wrong.

Toztie

Quote from: Dean Stark on Aug 02, 2010, 10:17 AM
Doesn't ALWAYS summon a Bow Master. I've been doing this routine for like 2 years with the same job and consistency and he doesn't ALWAYS summon a Bow Master. Maybe if you've done intense farming like I've done, then you'll see.

If he ALWAYS summons a Bow Master on your side, then good for you. Why not just accept that we have different encounters? This, btw, is from MY experience. If you're trying to squeeze YOUR experience into MINE, then that's just rude.

I'm just posting out of observation and experience. Not to see who's right or wrong.


Stop failing. Even the mechanics are against you.

Slaves
1 Sword Guardian / Sword Master
1 Bow Guardian / Bow Master
   When:
- Slave amount <= 1 (100% chance)

But sure were you played and with your intensive farming experience you can defy the laws of consitancy. Ye i believe you.

Dean Stark

I've been trying to keep this clean, mind you. Do whatever you want. Stick to your methods or whatever. I don't care whatever was in the database nor do I care how you do things.

I'm not forcing you nor wanting you to believe me. I've simply posted MY method of dealing with Bow Masters. If you think it's fail, then I'm probably a BETTER SinX than you. Not THE BEST but I'm having much success with my method. All I know is that I do things right for myself and I was merely suggesting.

I'm tired of putting up with what you say, really. I'm simply putting what I've experienced. I don't give a s*** if mechanics are way off, or whatever. I didn't post something outta thin air if I didn't know what I was doing. How dare you have the audacity to question that my methods are wrong when I know what I'm doing?

Who knows, it could prolly be the servers I joined features' or another eAthena script that allowed Byorgues to summon 2 Sword Masters in addition to the one lone Sword Master left? Or a new script that allows it and RMS isn't updated yet - yes, 2 months or so ago, RMS' database said Hardrock Mammoth summoned nothing when I saw it summon a bunch of Tatachos before me.

You have your ways, and I have mine so leave it at that. I never questioned your way of doing things even though... Ahem...

Quote from: Toztie on Jan 22, 1974, 01:48 AM
This is how i used to do it on a champ. High dex and still enough stats to 1 hit. and just rush it with crainial strong shield and like bloody butterfly card or so. Cast asura> bam> teleport.

A paladin used to work. Like shield chaining him.

I would've said, oh I dunno, a PHEN? Or that a LINKED SHIELD BOOMERANG is better. Yet I did not cause I don't want to butt in on other people's suggestions. Honestly, you have the balls to say something as shameless as that.

So much for keeping things civilized.

Toztie

Quote from: Dean Stark on Aug 02, 2010, 03:13 PM
I've been trying to keep this clean, mind you. Do whatever you want. Stick to your methods or whatever. I don't care whatever was in the database nor do I care how you do things.

I'm not forcing you nor wanting you to believe me. I've simply posted MY method of dealing with Bow Masters. If you think it's fail, then I'm probably a BETTER SinX than you. Not THE BEST but I'm having much success with my method. All I know is that I do things right for myself and I was merely suggesting.

I'm tired of putting up with what you say, really. I'm simply putting what I've experienced. I don't give a s*** if mechanics are way off, or whatever. I didn't post something outta thin air if I didn't know what I was doing. How dare you have the audacity to question that my methods are wrong when I know what I'm doing?

Who knows, it could prolly be the servers I joined features' or another eAthena script that allowed Byorgues to summon 2 Sword Masters in addition to the one lone Sword Master left? Or a new script that allows it and RMS isn't updated yet - yes, 2 months or so ago, RMS' database said Hardrock Mammoth summoned nothing when I saw it summon a bunch of Tatachos before me.

You have your ways, and I have mine so leave it at that. I never questioned your way of doing things even though... Ahem...

Quote from: Toztie on Jan 22, 1974, 01:48 AM
This is how i used to do it on a champ. High dex and still enough stats to 1 hit. and just rush it with crainial strong shield and like bloody butterfly card or so. Cast asura> bam> teleport.

A paladin used to work. Like shield chaining him.

I would've said, oh I dunno, a PHEN? Or that a LINKED SHIELD BOOMERANG is better. Yet I did not cause I don't want to butt in on other people's suggestions. Honestly, you have the balls to say something as shameless as that.

So much for keeping things civilized.

There is no such thing as another eathena script. You would have to edit the monster data.

Go back to the lvl 255 3rd job implanted with donation mvp cards and +1000 stats custom server you came from. And stop bothering us with bad tips and wrong information. Your experience wont help us s*** if you have failing sources.

Dean Stark

#13
Lol troll.  ::)

Prome me wrong that it isn't possible to get more than 308 flee and kill a Bow Master with EDP, complete with necessary buffs on a 99/70 trans server, please?

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Quote from: Sarin on Aug 01, 2010, 07:23 AM
Quote from: Toztie on Aug 01, 2010, 06:00 AM
What a s*** tips. Flee? The b**** stuns like mad.

Can't stun you if he can't hit you.

Tell me how to reach 300 Flee on a Champion. Or even Sniper for that matter.

Sarin

sniper? With increase agi you can get to like 140 agi gearless.....300 flee isnt that far away then.