How much def and resistance do refines actually add?

[CrimsonRed]

say we have a full +7 Armor+Garment+shoes and headgear set, how would the total def number translate into demihuman resistance percentage? is it like an additional 5%?

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

Are you talking pre/after renewal and are you mixing up armor def with race resistance?

[CrimsonRed]

pre renewal and no, im looking for an equivalent number of race resistance additional def will bring

[Triper]

If I'm thinking the same that you're asking, you're asking about +/- what, in terms of race reduce, def is equal to.

Each 1 refine = 0.7 so having 5 items at +7 means 24.5 that is 25 in game

Testing with an Abysmal Knight with gears that give all 0 def:
Average Damage Recieved   1875
Testing with an Abysmal Knight with gears that give all 0 def but having them at +7 = 25 def:
Average Damage Recieved   1406

This means 74.99% dmg taken from the initial thing aka less 25.01% less.

Testing with only demi-human reduces now.
Testing with an Abysmal Knight with gears that give all 0 def:
Average Damage Recieved   1875
Testing with an Abysmal Knight with gears that give all -25.01% demi-human damage and still keeping the 0 def:
Average Damage Recieved   1407

1 def = +/- 1% race reduce what makes sense since the game mix every reduce when calculating dmg.

Seems +/- right

[Sarin]

You can't say that 1 DEF=1% resistance due to way different modifiers stack (nonlinear), and DEF, unlike % resistances, can be bypassed.

[Orange]

^def is usually for PvM, not many mobs have skills that go through def(quite a few MvP's do)

using 20% race resist and 20 def would be
100 - 20% from race
= 80 - 20% from def
= 64

This is how all resistances and such stack in RO, with the exception of when you do get 100% it completely blocks(I think you can only achieve that with fire resist)

[Triper]

"makes sense since the game mix every reduce when calculating dmg"
^^^^^^^^^^

He asked what would be the equivalent and without stacking stuff that is the equivalent.

@Orange: -100% = miss from the correspondent element, if you go higher on negative numbers you get heals and a different sound happens. With the exception of neutral, people can get -100% of everything, new world cards made that possible.

[Anti-Static Foam Cleaner]

not many mobs have skills that go through def(quite a few MvP's do)

Every spell ignores def.