how do you counter berserk???

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Helrouis

Soul link, EDP, 2 sonic blows +2tg 2 hydra +right element. kaboom.

Hanyuu

ED makes it easier to kill since lots of people use fire converters. Or at least the smart ones do.

And if it's during woe, knockbacks do nothing.
I cannot quench your thirst
Because even if you yearn for the truth, you refuse to believe in it.

I cannot quench your thirst
Because no such truth exists that you are in anticipation for.

But I still want to quench your thirst.
Because I am the one the that put you into the desert.

Helrouis

Quote from: Hanyuu on Jun 12, 2008, 12:16 PM
ED makes it easier to kill since lots of people use fire converters. Or at least the smart ones do.

And if it's during woe, knockbacks do nothing.
WoE can berserk?!

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Frenzy does work during WoE, if that's what you're asking.

Dispelling Frenzy: Works, but after dispelling LK has full HP, so he's in no way neutralized, and if he has SP he can simply cast it again.
Slowing down(Slow Grace, Quagmire, Decrease AGI): Works, but Frenzy gives speed boost, so it's not as effective.
Full stop(Ankle Snare/Fiber Lock): Probably best option, only drawback is that traps will trigger on anybody, not just enemies.
Counter-attacks(Root/Reflect): All fine and good... considering the LK will bother with attacking you, which is unlikely. Frenzy is Emp breaker first and foremost.
Divest: FCP. Who even uses divest anymore?
Aspersio: Not with Evil Druid armor, you aren't...

Helrouis

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jun 12, 2008, 02:32 PM
Frenzy does work during WoE, if that's what you're asking.

Dispelling Frenzy: Works, but after dispelling LK has full HP, so he's in no way neutralized, and if he has SP he can simply cast it again.
Slowing down(Slow Grace, Quagmire, Decrease AGI): Works, but Frenzy gives speed boost, so it's not as effective.
Full stop(Ankle Snare/Fiber Lock): Probably best option, only drawback is that traps will trigger on anybody, not just enemies.
Counter-attacks(Root/Reflect): All fine and good... considering the LK will bother with attacking you, which is unlikely. Frenzy is Emp breaker first and foremost.
Divest: FCP. Who even uses divest anymore?
Aspersio: Not with Evil Druid armor, you aren't...

So my source was wrong about berserk. *Informed, thank you very much*

Felecorr

@Hanyuu
IF your on highrate, SK card makes thundr converts a WAY better idea. Especially w/ 2+ SK cards.

Helrouis

the deadly problem here is LK card + sinx with EDP. lol.

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

The deadly problem is LK with Tao Gunka and Frenzy.

That might take a while...

Helrouis

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jun 14, 2008, 03:08 AM
The deadly problem is LK with Tao Gunka and Frenzy.

That might take a while...

the deadly problem here is LK card +Tao gunka + sinx with EDP. lol. Or even with none, sinx really do deal a lot of damage.

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

But they're so squishy :P

Besides, LKs have much higher HP mods, and LK Card cuts already mediocre SinX's HP by half.

You could say it's like ultimate offense versus ultimate defense.

Helrouis

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jun 14, 2008, 03:32 AM
But they're so squishy :P

Besides, LKs have much higher HP mods, and LK Card cuts already mediocre SinX's HP by half.

You could say it's like ultimate offense versus ultimate defense.
Ah yes, in low rate servers, if LKs would be using one hand quicken before berserk, *Does it debuff?* they probably would own due to ASPD.

Sarin

SinX with LK card...useless. Any guild that deserves that title would rip him apart before he could do anything.

Helrouis

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 04:09 AM
SinX with LK card...useless. Any guild that deserves that title would rip him apart before he could do anything.

I can see something like -> EDP SinX vs LK. <- both have berserk skill

Melee *No Skill Battle Scenario:*
Say that the LK do hit the SinX due to phreeoni card, then the crit of the sinX is around 2k.
Of course. the SinX wouldn't wear the LK card unless already in critical life. =P

Say here,EDP does a LOT of damage, which will make the LK use the berserk skill immediately.

Once the sinx lack HP, he'll change equipment and use the berserk skill right away!

LK<-Fail
Sinx->Win

Melee *W/Skills:*
Sonic Blow with EDP surely own the LK. admit it.
Even if the LK has around 40k++ HP, a sonic blow can hit up to 2k damage each.=2x8 = 16k, what else would've happened if the guy was linked.

LK<-Fail
Sinx->Win

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 03:44 AM
Ah yes, in low rate servers, if LKs would be using one hand quicken before berserk, *Does it debuff?* they probably would own due to ASPD.

Actually, for LK, Two Hand Quicken + Berserk Potion + Frenzy = 190Aspd even with 1 AGI.

Helrouis

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jun 14, 2008, 05:51 AM
Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 14, 2008, 03:44 AM
Ah yes, in low rate servers, if LKs would be using one hand quicken before berserk, *Does it debuff?* they probably would own due to ASPD.

Actually, for LK, Two Hand Quicken + Berserk Potion + Frenzy = 190Aspd even with 1 AGI.

+ to you
Hm, well one hand quicken will be a lot better for some reason. Shields do block 30% of the damage.