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[Raistlin]

ok ok i get what u say. but, are we all in agreement that servers as soon as they are made are inherently bad and can get worse?

How and why?

[Cielte]

ok ok i get what u say. but, are we all in agreement that servers as soon as they are made are inherently bad and can get worse?

I disagree with just about all of this.

[Irrelevant]

ok ok i get what u say. but, are we all in agreement that servers as soon as they are made are inherently bad and can get worse?

Private servers provide a free RO experience and rates that Gravity does not offer in their server. I find it hard to believe that's "inherently bad." Sure, you can wipe out the argument of "private servers being scams to get money," but I think we can all agree that not all server owners are out the for the money. eA is freeware as much as any warez are and, just like any other program on the net, how you use them is what determines if you're breaking the law or not.

Sure, you can say customs that people make are not in any way copyright-able since it's all based off of Gravity's work, but, in all honesty, we all know that's not entirely true. One doesn't really understand this matter until it happens to your work; some people grief on it, some others get over it.

All in all, copying another server's work is just an indicator for an administrator who could use more underhanded methods to get people. Plus, quite usually, the server owners who steal are also the ones who are out there for the money. Make a new server, steal a few features, overprice donations, kill server. Rinse and repeat for cheap, easy money.

[Funaho]

let me get this strait....

ITS OK TO STEAL FROM GRAVITY WHO WORKED REALLY REALY HARD TO MAKE RO (AKA PRIVATE SERVERS)

BUT ITS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM PRIVATE SERVERS?

ok i think thats pritty hippocritical but hay if thats the way u do things i must say i personaly disagree that all post on the HoS reguarding thieft of codes is wrong. (the rest r just fine)

this is my final say ur free to ask me stuff and i will reply but this is a debate topic so have at it.

[LemonCrosswalk]

Uh. Okay. Lesson one of your debate, know you're audience.

Right now you are arguing with a bunch of GMs and players that "care" (I use this loosely) enough to join a forum ABOUT RO private servers. The people from gravity would agree with you, but in this community we won't (even if we understand and accept your point). You still can't steal s*** from other servers, so try not to justify it.

[Descent]

let me get this strait....

ITS OK TO STEAL FROM GRAVITY WHO WORKED REALLY REALY HARD TO MAKE RO (AKA PRIVATE SERVERS)

BUT ITS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM PRIVATE SERVERS?

ok i think thats pritty hippocritical but hay if thats the way u do things i must say i personaly disagree that all post on the HoS reguarding thieft of codes is wrong. (the rest r just fine)

this is my final say ur free to ask me stuff and i will reply but this is a debate topic so have at it.

Yeah, Caps aren't necessary.

Nobody's "stealing" from Gravity. eAthena is OPEN SOURCE. They work on it themselves, it's not pirated Gravity code(*cough*Aegis). As such, eA is quite legal.

If it bothers you so much, go play iRO and swear off Private Servers. What you get out of the box is a "mock iRO". Admins and Developers then go to great lengths to customize the server to their(and their target audience's) liking. It is NOT okay for some random goof to show up on their forums, ask thousands of questions, get Scripts, and then run back to their server saying "LOOK WHAT I DID".

The real hypocrisy in this thread is you claiming that Private servers steal and yet you most likely play one.

[Hutchy]

* Hutchy remembers the Luncanesti debacle

[Raistlin]

Descent said a lot of the things that I wanted to say already. Coding isn't gravity's, unlike AEGIS, so I'm afraid your reasoning still have no sense here.

Generally, in discussions, it's a good idea to answer questions.

let me get this strait....

ITS OK TO STEAL FROM GRAVITY WHO WORKED REALLY REALY HARD TO MAKE RO (AKA PRIVATE SERVERS)

BUT ITS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM PRIVATE SERVERS?

Let's imagine for a moment that we agree with you. So, it's ok to steal from Gravity, then it must be ok to steal from other private servers.

Thus, a second scenario.

SINCE ITS OK TO STEAL FROM SCIENTISTS WHO WORKED REALLY REALY HARD TO MAKE THIER RESEARCH (AKA PUBLISHED PAPERS)

AND SO IT MUST ALSO BE OK TO STEAL FROM TEH WRITERS WHO PUT TOGETHER TEH DATA, DID THE RESAERCH AND WROTE THE PAPER ON THEIR OWN. ACTUALLY WHY DONT I JUST TAKE TEH PAPER TEHY WROTE AND CALL IT MY OWN? ALL OF U R HIPPOCRITS!1!

Those two statements above are roughly analogous to the argument you just made.

[Rock007]

I dont think this would matter all as At the orgin master coding is done by SVN itself

 Don't post in threads older than 2 months unless you have something really important to say.
Also use some common sense, most of your posts are pointless and obviously aimed at increasing post count.

3 day warn

[LemonCrosswalk]

I dont think this would matter all as At the orgin master coding is done by SVN itself

I don't think this post matters since it's origin is over a year old.