i think we who are thieves should not go and hate those who steal from us (not hack spam or anything simply steal) i think its wrong to judges others, especially since we are all pro-eathena.
Please refrain from bringing morality arguments without first showing us why the particular standard should be used. There will be people who believe in absolute standards. Just because you believe that it may be wrong to judge someone doesn't mean that others will.
A note: I don't find everything you said to be wrong. Nor do I want to make you look bad/whatever. Since you're looking for a debate, you might as well get one. I would assume that we debate because we want to understand the other's perspective better. Or ...you could always be trying to stir up trouble. Whichever one it is, I hope it's the former.
The hall of shame acts as a sort of community organization. A form of government, so to speak, albeit a very loose one. RMS has no ability to really enforce anything - however, it can serve as a warning to the rest of the community.
As for why copying from other servers is wrong...
In this case, I think a great deal of us would agree that there is a common level of decency when it comes to work of this sort of nature. That's what one of the posters above said in terms of "pirate's law."
The reason why server copying is bad, at least according to me, is because it's plagiarism.
You understand the idea behind plagiarism, correct? You realize that in the academic world, plagiarism carries serious consequences. As someone already pointed it out, it's taking someone else's work without giving them credit nor having obtained their permission ahead of time.
The argument that they're just "theives stealing from thieves" is analogous to modern research in the natural science. It could be seen that every scientist today is building off of someone else's ideas. "stealing," so to speak. Are scientists, then, also thieves stealing from thieves?
i disagree which what Ur kinda stepping around. i think we who are thieves should not go and hate those who steal from us (not hack spam or anything simply steal) i think its wrong to judges others, especially since we are all pro-eathena.
"let he be without sin cast the first stone?"(and I'm atheist leaning to Buddhism).
So you're telling us that it's wrong to hack and spam but it's not wrong to steal? Don't tell me you've never seen servers fighting spamwars.What makes hacking and spamming so much more wrong than stealing, then? A sin's a sin's a sin, according to your logic.
i know alot of server fail to give proper credit to the original authors. ya if a server admited they they stole sprites form another server. and came out in the open with all that. i would have loads of repsect for that server and even play it. (its a requirement for me to play a server)
Why?
You're absolutely right. Once something goes on the internet, it becomes "public domain" in the sense that everyone can steal/use it, depending on how you look at it.
The question here is does the mere fact of something becoming public means that all shards of integrity should be thrown out of the window?