Copyable trans skill totally make stalker overpower ?!

Started by peno, Sep 27, 2010, 04:21 AM

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peno

As alot of people noticed stalker is really weak trans class.

Intimidate looks good but useless as a rouge because u will lose ur skill as soon as u got hit by other skill.
Preserve should be a rogue skill not a stalker skill.  ??? ::)

Stalker is one of most least play class because they simply suck.
However I think this can fixed by lets rogue copy trans skill.

What do you think about it ? Will it make stalker godly overpowered ?
Or stalker should stayed with bowling bash and storm gust forever ?

Relics

Stalker with acid demonstration is kind of OP, given he has the materials to do so..
For one, imagine it as a creator who can shadow walk.. pretty nasty

then there's sacrifice with bow.. which can be a problem.
Gospel can damage, and is trans so is also copyable.. then stalker would be one hell of a support with strip/freezing bow + gospel for team lol.

peno

I dont think scarifice can be copy its look like self buff more than offensive skill.
Neither the gospel since you just sing a song ?  ??? (its like saying you can copy unchained serenade but you cant)

However the idea of being stalk anywhere without notice and surpised acid bomb does scary and may resulting as creators extincted instead of stalkers.
It still does rise an question tho does it overpowered as much as edp sinx ?

What do you think about other skills like Traumatic Blow,Soul Destoryer,Gravity Field,Napalm Vulcan,Rapid Smith,FAS ?

Sarin

Quote from: peno on Sep 27, 2010, 08:17 AM
Neither the gospel since you just sing a song ?  ??? (its like saying you can copy unchained serenade but you cant)
If trans skills would be copyable, gospel will be obtainable this way since it also does some (little) damage to enemies.

the problem with stalker and trans skills is that you could possibly use strip, chase walk/tunnel drive and some nuke, resulting in overpowered class.

Gankz

Well at the very least shadow chasers can copy third class skills with Reproduce.



Wikebine

Sac + bow = so awesome. Used that on one very, very broken server. From experience with servers that let stalkers copy trans skills, you can copy gospel, and use it. Also, what the heck are you saying, stalkers suck? Stalkers are awesome.
You seem kinda mad. Why are you mad? You seem really mad, but I'm not quite sure why. Could you explain your anger using logical means? What legitimate reason do you have for being mad?

peno

I never play in a server which stalker can copy trans skills before.

I dont get sacrifice with bow part ? Anyone mind to explain it to me ?
I believed its your weapon card % + your hp ?

Its really amazed when people complain how overpowered a stalker could be if allowed to copy a trans class skill when a shadow chaser can copy 3rd class with full strip and nobody complained about it. ;D

Has anyone notice lately ?

wireless

Sacrifice with bow doesn't sound that good to me... maybe on servers with higher max stats but on 99/70 even with maxed vit stalker's hp is much lower than pally's, and aspd just sucks with bow. Pretty much any class could outpot that without trouble  :-X stalker with acid demo sounds fun though  ;D

Ganondorf

Quote from: peno on Sep 27, 2010, 04:21 AM
As alot of people noticed stalker is really weak trans class.

- I've heard ignorant people say that, that's about it though.

Intimidate looks good but useless as a rouge because u will lose ur skill as soon as u got hit by other skill.
Preserve should be a rogue skill not a stalker skill.  ??? ::)

- That's just how they made the class work.  Not like it's hard to train a bow Rogue anyways, there isn't really a need for copying skills during Rogue if it's built properly.

Stalker is one of most least play class because they simply suck.
However I think this can fixed by lets rogue copy trans skill.

- Every class is played enough in my opinion.  It depends on your server, the personal tastes of those around you at a given time, or just luck of the draw.

What do you think about it ? Will it make stalker godly overpowered ?

- Yes, it would.  Giving a Stalker Acid Demonstration would just be murder.  Acceptable Stalker players can prove to be a pain in the donkey to kill in the first place.  Now you'd want them to be able to cast Acid Demonstration on you, use Chase Walk/Tunnel Drive and rinse and repeat?  Your idea of balance is just as deranged as majority of individuals I see.  Good show.


Or stalker should stayed with bowling bash and storm gust forever ?

- Those are only the most common uses of them on 99/70 servers, yes.  It doesn't mean that's their only good use though.  Stalkers are one of those classes where you have to use your imagination to succeed.

Relics

Quote from: peno on Sep 27, 2010, 03:28 PM
I never play in a server which stalker can copy trans skills before.

I dont get sacrifice with bow part ? Anyone mind to explain it to me ?
I believed its your weapon card % + your hp ?

Ranged sacrifice, couple that with something like tao or HP Gear on stalker and you've got strip + a skill that does loads of damage, ranged.

peno

I'm talking about 99/70 server so lets cut out the high rate and super high rate one.  ;)

"- Yes, it would.  Giving a Stalker Acid Demonstration would just be murder.  Acceptable Stalker players can prove to be a pain in the donkey to kill in the first place.  Now you'd want them to be able to cast Acid Demonstration on you, use Chase Walk/Tunnel Drive and rinse and repeat?  Your idea of balance is just as deranged as majority of individuals I see.  Good show."

You just being stupid and overreacting in this topic.In the worst case if stalker could copy AD its just same as cloaked SINX EDP and SB and yet I see any creator can one shot yet.
I've played 2 stalkers already bow type and int type in low rate server.I'm fully aware what a stalker can do and can not.

And thanks you for explaining Relics.

Tom~

Stalkers can strip, plus AD breaks equipment. It'd more OP than you think, really.

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

Gankz

You can't even copy sacrifice with trans skills enabled. It adds damage to your attacks, you're not actually casting the skill, despite it showing that it is.

Try it out on a test server configured to allow trans skills to be copied.



uncelebrated

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