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Title: card help ?
Post by: *joegold* on May 23, 2009, 06:39 PM
Does Lord of Death card stack?
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: bangbang on May 23, 2009, 07:18 PM
QuoteDoes Lord of Death card stack?

I want to know too.



Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: Relics on May 23, 2009, 08:49 PM
IIRC, it does. Atleast it does on the test server.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 23, 2009, 11:02 PM
Status% should stack as far as I remember, autocasts do not.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: horo on May 24, 2009, 03:20 AM
Yea, they stack, another reason why HR are dumb - coma spam snipers.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 24, 2009, 04:27 AM
Quote from: horo on May 24, 2009, 03:20 AM
Yea, they stack, another reason why HR are dumb - coma spam snipers.

Coma Spam Snipers, 1HKO Instant Asura, horo, if you are going to list all of the reasons HRs are imbalanced, then you will spend days writing a post
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: horo on May 24, 2009, 04:36 AM
Err, I really just wanted to point out why LOD card is overpowered in relation to HR. they're not worth discussing in further detail.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 24, 2009, 05:10 AM
Quote from: horo on May 24, 2009, 04:36 AM
Err, I really just wanted to point out why LOD card is overpowered in relation to HR. they're not worth discussing in further detail.

Yeah, LoD does lose a lot of potential on HR due to stat immunities, only thing good is it's coma, and putting it *4 on a 19X ASPD char...
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: Relics on May 24, 2009, 06:19 AM
Whopping 0.4% coma chance just to find out your opponent wears a GTB.
Blast?
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 24, 2009, 06:29 AM
Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2009, 06:19 AM
Whopping 0.4% coma chance just to find out your opponent wears a GTB.
Blast?

Not exactly

1) At a 7+ Attacks per second rate 0.4% is a lot
2) Most servers just take GTB out completely
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: Relics on May 24, 2009, 08:44 AM
Well I dunno, I haven't played any high rate above 99/70 .. or 99/70's that gave out MvPs like candy.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 24, 2009, 08:59 AM
Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2009, 08:44 AM
Well I dunno, I haven't played any high rate above 99/70 .. or 99/70's that gave out MvPs like candy.


The good of LoD varies on the server
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: fluidin on May 24, 2009, 11:42 AM
I'm pretty sure Coma, as a "status effect" (kinda), bypasses GTB.

As is evident when my Guillotine WS manages to chop down a Paladin on GTB.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: Relics on May 24, 2009, 12:49 PM
Tarot coma doesn't work on GTB
Ledger of death coma doesn't work on GTB
LoD coma doesn't work on GTB

but that's all from the test server.. it could just be server customs and yada yada.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: *joegold* on May 24, 2009, 03:26 PM
Does coma work on mvp 2?
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: horo on May 24, 2009, 03:39 PM
no
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: bleu on May 24, 2009, 04:05 PM
The current default eA setup is such that GTB blocks Coma completely. Any inconsistency is due to server customization.

   //Status that are blocked by Golden Thief Bug card or Wand of Hermod
   if (status_isimmune(bl))
   switch (type)
   {
   case SC_DECREASEAGI:
   case SC_SILENCE:
   case SC_COMA:
   case SC_INCREASEAGI:
   case SC_BLESSING:
   case SC_SLOWPOISON:
   case SC_IMPOSITIO:
   case SC_AETERNA:
   case SC_SUFFRAGIUM:
   case SC_BENEDICTIO:
   case SC_PROVIDENCE:
   case SC_KYRIE:
   case SC_ASSUMPTIO:
   case SC_ANGELUS:
   case SC_MAGNIFICAT:
   case SC_GLORIA:
   case SC_WINDWALK:
   case SC_MAGICROD:
   case SC_HALLUCINATION:
   case SC_STONE:
   case SC_QUAGMIRE:
   case SC_SUITON:
      return 0;

What is more interesting is that there has been recent reports/confirmations, that there's a small chance to self-inflict Coma on the user. Test were conducted using weapons which triggers Coma. In addition, the chances of triggering Coma is ten times higher on eA servers than on official servers (something eA developers need to address ASAP).
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: horo on May 24, 2009, 04:16 PM
yea the coma on self by inflicting damage to yourself using skills like gc is pretty funny

post that coma thing on the eathena bug forums~
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: PiReS7 on May 24, 2009, 05:46 PM
Quote from: LiteX on May 24, 2009, 04:27 AM
Quote from: horo on May 24, 2009, 03:20 AM
Yea, they stack, another reason why HR are dumb - coma spam snipers.

Coma Spam Snipers, 1HKO Instant Asura, horo, if you are going to list all of the reasons HRs are imbalanced, then you will spend days writing a post

A reason why coma cards are disabled on some high rate servers...
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: fluidin on May 25, 2009, 03:07 AM
Hmm :x

That paladin most likely changed back to thara when tanking, then.
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: LiteX on May 25, 2009, 03:45 AM
Quote from: *joegold* on May 24, 2009, 03:26 PM
Does coma work on mvp 2?

Nope, why would you want to on a HR anyways?

@PiReS7:
Few servers actually bother with LoD as I've seen
Title: Re: card help ?
Post by: DeePee on May 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
eAthena blocks GTB by default I think, however this is not supposed to be according to Aegis sources.