_____RO has full power GTB card! fools! RAGE RAGE RAGE

[Fruit Pie~]

There's no card that gives immunity to physical ranged attacks because that would nerf Creators, and we can't have that.

Well, also because you can theoretically Pneuma/Safety Wall your way out of physicals, but that's like saying you can hide out of a 149 DEX Asura : it's possible, but under normal circumstances it's not happening.

But really though I don't see how it can be used that effectively seeing how it takes shield slot which means you lose 35% range reduction, which is a big deal now that Snipers have become a strong DPS (dunno how much faster would 1 vit classes drop with it from bios).

Snipers doing damage? Lowering to 1 VIT to help against Creators? Goddamn HORN CARD!?

Have you perchance written any RateMyServer guides?

[Judgement]

Just following the theoretical builds people use in WoE servers.  Like I said though haven't been in any guild so not really sure what builds they use, but from what I could gather around I have rough ideas.  Seriously though from the sound of your post you don't seem to know much about the current meta?  Snipers seem to have become a strong AoE DPS class along with other random random stuff.  The 1vit was refering to 1 base vit builds which has been common since 2010 or whenever those SM drops came in, though I've heard of 0 vit builds for AD immunity (obviously stun proof too).

Immunity to physical attacks is more broken than GTB because LP would cover the more effective magical skills (Quag/MS).Being able to only be killed by a few magic attacks is beyond OP. lol  Maybe if it's something like melee only.

[Fruit Pie~]

No no, I know the meta is to toss as many Creators at a problem as you can. Trying to metagame that with 1 VIT and Horn is like trying to end a roach infestation with mustard gas : it technically works, but you leave yourself open to a variety of other problems. You will also get cancer and die in the process. This isn't a good metaphor.

Sharpshooting doesn't really do any appreciable damage. I've seen it do roughly 600 damage in WoE, which is laughable compared to AD's 10k (and AD is hilariously faster). The one situation in which Sharpshooting is better is when there's enough Snipers to beat potion healing, you stack your whole damn 72-man guild on the same square and you forget to use Pneuma (or you stacked like that over LP). And if the planets align and this really happens, you deserve what you get.

[Thoth]

a horde of sharpshooting snipers sounds absolutely stunning 

[Judgement]

[Sunlive] WoE xRO BEASTMODE 10.03.2013

2013 RO, where AHK NDL etc is a requirement in woe guilds

also no more 76 player guilds, RO is dead 

[RoseTea]

also no more 76 player guilds, RO is dead 

If you mean WoE is dead, I certainly won't mourn it.  Look at the video you just linked: it's two clusters of players very slowly, if ever, actually moving and just swatting at each other while they stay firmly on their land protector with paladins devoting everyone.  Even breaking their defense doesn't actually mean the huddle dies fast.

(Of course AHK and such are required for WoE.  This isn't exactly a new revelation, macros were essential as soon as WoE began to exist.)

[Hermos]

Eh, I think you guys just don't know the meta and/or never played in really competitive servers/guilds.

[Fruit Pie~]

Eh, I think you guys just don't know the meta and/or never played in really competitive servers/guilds.

This was an useful, helpful and interesting reply.

(it wasn't)

So, uh, mind enlightening us on how WoE isn't just a Creator-fest other than the apparent lack of game knowledge past 2008 on your server of choice?

EDIT : God damn that xRO video. I, too, can do impossible area of effect DPS with a single Sniper when I'm using every last third-party software to make my animation frames go back in time. It's like saying you don't need wards in MOBAs because you can always maphack.

[Judgement]

Like it or not that's how the scene has turn to.  Though I don't doubt these guys could also play without using those 3rd party softwares, since the core of the GvG is proper stacking and roles.  And of course you start bashing us for playing TalonRO despite not knowing anything about the scene there.  It's true that it was played in a 08 style not too long ago but very recently the guilds have been playing more organized than that following the GvG format.

And how about your WoE experience?  Again, not sayin' I know everything, but I have an idea on how things work and have been watching the scene from the sides.  or trying

would post more but gtg :c

[Fruit Pie~]

And of course you start bashing us for playing TalonRO despite not knowing anything about the scene there.  It's true that it was played in a 08 style not too long ago but very recently the guilds have been playing more organized than that following the GvG format.

What do you mea-

Oh. Ohhh, lol. I genuinely didn't know you guys are from Talon! I make that 2008 comment about every server, don't worry too much about it (and I generally hit the mark because there's no such thing as a non-nostalgic RO player).

Don't take this as bashing you two for playing on TalonRO, I don't judge people based on the server they're from even if I don't like the server (I'm just straight up bashing you). It's just that I'm arrogant and come off as condescending when I don't mean to.

And how about your WoE experience?  Again, not sayin' I know everything, but I have an idea on how things work and have been watching the scene from the sides.  or trying

I'm really more experienced with oldschool WoE than normal WoE nowadays, but I've been in my fair share of competitive BR guilds. My WoE days are gone, but I try to keep in contact with the scene, or what little of the scene isn't playing Dota 2.

Like it or not that's how the scene has turn to.

I know and I can't change it, but I can at least laugh at it.

You also have to admit the Sniper wouldn't be NEARLY as good without 3rd party software, no matter how good at "stacking" and "roles" those guys are.

[Thoth]

  marijuana is going legal, why shouldn't AHK?

[Judgement]

oh lol that's alright.

Well from our experience in tRO it seems like snipers might actually be viable with enough snipers/buffs on it.  And since the WoE servers give out stat items like easy it's not too hard to have high ATK with stun resist and high ASPD apparently.

But yeah, 3rd party software just breaks the game to a whole other level.


..So bout' dat GTB card!

[Thoth]

But yeah, 3rd party software just breaks the game to a whole other level.

breaks? it fixed my carpal tunnel. RO without ahk breaks my hands~
if I have to either break RO or my hands, I know which one I will choose!

[Fruit Pie~]

AHK isn't so bad for the same reason I think Openkore is alright. All it does is automate stuff you can already do.

Actual cheating software is pretty bad, though.

EDIT : The REAL hilarity comes from the fact the same players who cheat are (usually) very much anti-bot, because botting is "unfair" and "breaks the game". There's no irony like iROny!

[Roda Frog of Sakray]

AHK isn't so bad for the same reason I think Openkore is alright. All it does is automate stuff you can already do.

Actual cheating software is pretty bad, though.

EDIT : The REAL hilarity comes from the fact the same players who cheat are (usually) very much anti-bot, because botting is "unfair" and "breaks the game". There's no irony like iROny!

I'm anti-both tbh.....But only if the server your playing on is more than just you, in which case it's like playing a single player game and whatever you do in a single player game is your own business : X. (like with sRO now....a friend and I hopped on during WoE to find we were literally the only ones on, so my friend hacked the game and gave himself GM powers, spawned a bunch of fantasy impossible items that didn't even exist on the server, '+10 Brynhild anyone?' and cloned us with our Hax dream builds so we actually had something to fight....then reset our builds after and discarded the items....which I'm totally fine with because it was practically a single player game at that point and it would have been boring otherwise.)

Edit: highlight of that WoE is the SS below where I took an alt assassin and had it cloned and the AI version of myself hit me with SB, stunning me and killing me as a result....LOL!

Edit: accidentally hit quote...if a mod could merge this with the previous post I would be happy : X

[edit by Triper: you can now be happy ;o]