[Non-Renewal] Best use of Dracula Card

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Blinzer

Using it on a sniper is probably the best use for it, DS's high damage makes it self sufficient unless you get really unlucky.

Try suggesting to your admin to change it to be a 1% SP drain at 50% chance(as opposed to a 5% chance of being 10%). It's a more consistent asset that way.



Jonse7

Quote from: Blinzer on Jan 01, 2017, 05:00 PM
Using it on a sniper is probably the best use for it, DS's high damage makes it self sufficient unless you get really unlucky.

Try suggesting to your admin to change it to be a 1% SP drain at 50% chance(as opposed to a 5% chance of being 10%). It's a more consistent asset that way.
Great idea for sniper's DS.
However I'm playing on a server where admin won't compromise for such change. The card effect will remain at original. Do you think if it's still great for DS? What bow do you slot it in and do you ever need to carry SP pots?

Thanks!

Blinzer

I think anything which is made to be lucky even though it can be easily normalized is bad. Your bow of choice is probably 2 TG 1 Thana 1 Dracula, followed up by 3 TG 1 Dracula. If you don't have access to any of those, use AK cards or whatever racial cards best suit your needs is next.

If you're playing on a server which sells blue pots or grape juice, I would suggest selling it and using the money you get to buy potions for the rest of your life.



Jonse7

Quote from: Blinzer on Jan 02, 2017, 03:49 AM
I think anything which is made to be lucky even though it can be easily normalized is bad. Your bow of choice is probably 2 TG 1 Thana 1 Dracula, followed up by 3 TG 1 Dracula. If you don't have access to any of those, use AK cards or whatever racial cards best suit your needs is next.

If you're playing on a server which sells blue pots or grape juice, I would suggest selling it and using the money you get to buy potions for the rest of your life.
I've tested the bow options. It turned out that, with one Dracula Card, the sp gained couldn't always catch up with sp used by DS. Needed to repot occasionally.

It's hard for me to test for TKM though because I've absolutely no idea how it works. Though this is so far the most interesting option now. But I want to ask someone who used this card if only one Dracula Card enough to forget about SP potting?

I don't want to sell the card though because zeny isn't my concern.

Robert

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For TKM, it depends on whether the class has been modded by the server gm'a but typically heat does 1 normal attack worth of damage per hit and hits at max attack speed. Least that's how it worked on the last two servers I worked on.

Iirc it should be 2sp per hit with heat and 5% on average is one drain every twenty hits. Assuming you're recovering at least 40sp every second and a half, at least 400 damage per hit and you should be fine.

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In animaRO/talonRO drac (or whatever card had that SP effect in tRO) was used for TKM.    Carding for book was Phree (for hit), Drac (SP), AK (DAMAGE) I think, with Kaahi effect on the taekwon.  Could swap AK for Sniper for HP instead if damage is good enough.  aRO/tRO had more custom gears to make things easier for them though.
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Blinzer

Quote from: Jonse7 on Jan 06, 2017, 06:35 AM
I've tested the bow options. It turned out that, with one Dracula Card, the sp gained couldn't always catch up with sp used by DS. Needed to repot occasionally.

It's hard for me to test for TKM though because I've absolutely no idea how it works. Though this is so far the most interesting option now. But I want to ask someone who used this card if only one Dracula Card enough to forget about SP potting?

I don't want to sell the card though because zeny isn't my concern.

How much are your DSes hitting for? It's impossible that you don't catch up with the bows I suggested. Any DS over 3000 is more than self sufficient.



Jonse7

Quote from: Blinzer on Jan 06, 2017, 09:36 PM
How much are your DSes hitting for? It's impossible that you don't catch up with the bows I suggested. Any DS over 3000 is more than self sufficient.
My DS is around 3-3.5k. From full SP, 3/5 of times will be able to sustain SP, but 2/5 of times SP will run to 0. The test server uses original effect of Dracula Card though.

Blinzer

Quote from: Jonse7 on Jan 07, 2017, 12:06 AM
My DS is around 3-3.5k. From full SP, 3/5 of times will be able to sustain SP, but 2/5 of times SP will run to 0. The test server uses original effect of Dracula Card though.

I see. Well a 3k DS is pretty weak in my eyes anyways, but you can always make up for it by autoattacking for a bit. Using it on a star gladiator seems to be better if you're talking about levelling.



Jonse7

Quote from: Blinzer on Jan 07, 2017, 04:14 PM
I see. Well a 3k DS is pretty weak in my eyes anyways, but you can always make up for it by autoattacking for a bit. Using it on a star gladiator seems to be better if you're talking about levelling.
Well the highest damage I could tweak is 4k. But still SP isn't always sustainable.
Without extra buffs and foods, how do you manage to make DS damage so high that SP is always sustainable?

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Quote from: Jonse7 on Jan 10, 2017, 03:31 AM
Well the highest damage I could tweak is 4k. But still SP isn't always sustainable.
Without extra buffs and foods, how do you manage to make DS damage so high that SP is always sustainable?
That really depends which mob are you using DS against. DS damage is reduced by DEF and can be improved by using proper element. With 160dex and fire element, you can pull up 7k+ on most plants (Geo, Moscovia mobs, Enchanted Peach Tree, ...)
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Back on EssenceRO, I used Dracula Card to MVP on a Star Glad (TKM). I rarely ever used SP pots or grape juice. What I would do is have a switch between 2 ak + drac with a 3 AK book. I would swap to Dracula card book to regain SP, then back to the 3 AK books for damage.

I would also have a book to PVP with just in case we got PK'd. If anyone knew EssenceRO, it was THE server for MvPing, since they enabled PVP on MVP maps.

Jonse7

Quote from: papachan on Jan 12, 2017, 01:43 PM
Back on EssenceRO, I used Dracula Card to MVP on a Star Glad (TKM). I rarely ever used SP pots or grape juice. What I would do is have a switch between 2 ak + drac with a 3 AK book. I would swap to Dracula card book to regain SP, then back to the 3 AK books for damage.

I would also have a book to PVP with just in case we got PK'd. If anyone knew EssenceRO, it was THE server for MvPing, since they enabled PVP on MVP maps.
So If I always have 2AK+Dracula Book on instead of switching, I might not need to use SP pot at all?
May I know your stats build for MVP TKM?

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Quote from: Jonse7 on Jan 01, 2017, 03:56 PM
Primary question: What's the best use for a Dracula Card?

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Quote from: Blinzer on Jan 02, 2017, 03:49 AM
Your bow of choice is probably 2 TG 1 Thana 1 Dracula, followed up by 3 TG 1 Dracula.
May I know why you recommended 2TG 1Thana over 3TG?
As I know Thanatos consumes 10SP more when attacking, which should applied for DS as well.
Does Thanatos beat the all-purposeness of the bow because damage will be weak against low VIT/DEF monsters? PvM-wise, High VIT/DEF targets are quite few in pre-renewal iirc.

Blinzer

Quote from: Jonse7 on Jan 24, 2017, 01:27 AM
May I know why you recommended 2TG 1Thana over 3TG?
As I know Thanatos consumes 10SP more when attacking, which should applied for DS as well.
Does Thanatos beat the all-purposeness of the bow because damage will be weak against low VIT/DEF monsters? PvM-wise, High VIT/DEF targets are quite few in pre-renewal iirc.

depends what monsters, but generally speaking thanatos is usually always more than 20% more damage



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