Sniper in WoE Help.

fyrellxD · Feb 01, 2009, 11:45 AM

Okay, most of the sniper guides for I've seen for WoE just mainly says, "Be a FA/Trapper", But I wanna try a sniper that can kill with it's DS, normal attacks, or auto-blitz. Is it possible? This is for WoE, need builds and equips for a 30/20/20 rate, 150/70 leveled server, server is just new so I may have a chance to rock in WoE, preferably auto-blitz WoE builds.

Dean Stark · Feb 01, 2009, 12:08 PM

Well... You can try to be a status bow (stun, curse, sleep, whatever) type; however in WoE, ppl would usually outpot (and will most often bring Royal Jellies which negates any status effects) you and while you're spamming DS, their HP usually restores fater than how much you damage em cause of WoE's damage reduction. The result? You'd be out of SP/SP items while the guy you're trying to keep at bay is prolly at point blank range w/ full/near-full HP and ready to smash you.

Most ppl would say a trapper is good cause snipers can't deliver OHKO's or near KO attacks - unless your opponent's undergeared. Plus, if you go trapper, you'd have a shield on(you don't need a bow to FA). But if you really insist on using DS then get the usual 2x hydra, 2x SW or 3x hydra, SW +10 Compo Bow...

fyrellxD · Feb 01, 2009, 12:31 PM

Yes they may output DS builds, but how about an auto-blitz? With +30 luk from gloria, I'd have around 30-50% chance to auto-blitz em with 1k damage, plus doing decent damage, and I don't need SP for falconer.

Sarin · Feb 01, 2009, 01:48 PM

Actually, DS can dish out pretty good dps. But the problem is, low hitpoints, low vit, no thara. Result? Squished within seconds. That goes for all bow builds except sharpshooting, but it has quite low DPS, and is used just as complement to traps for its AoE.

Hexaea · Feb 01, 2009, 03:34 PM

DS build has some nice DPS usually.
I prefer crit dps builds for snipers though.

fyrellxD · Feb 01, 2009, 03:54 PM

Just a quick question, will a falconer build own in WoE? If I'm able to do decent arrow damage with around 40-50% chance for 1k blitz, will it work?

Sarin · Feb 01, 2009, 06:18 PM

well, depends on server. If your teammates can provide decent cover for you so you don't get blasted instantly, autoblitz will be good. Until someone sets up pneuma.

Poki · Feb 01, 2009, 06:29 PM

Quote from: Sarin on Feb 01, 2009, 06:18 PM
well, depends on server. If your teammates can provide decent cover for you so you don't get blasted instantly, autoblitz will be good. Until someone sets up pneuma.

Unless your high priests are smart enough to use safety wall there first.

Sarin · Feb 01, 2009, 06:30 PM

I think thatwhatever is cast later overrides the previous.

Poki · Feb 01, 2009, 06:33 PM

Really? Hmm, last time I did it, I used safety wall first and couldn't cast pneuma on top of it. I guess they changed it then.

Sarin · Feb 01, 2009, 06:51 PM

I dunno if you can cast it directly on it, but you can cast pneuma one square away from it, and it will take effect over SW. I've seen champs doing that to cancel out SW before asura.

Poki · Feb 01, 2009, 06:52 PM

Whoa, I've never heard of that. Well, I guess we'll just need to spam more than one safety wall there then.

blackgh05t · Feb 02, 2009, 06:50 AM

Quote from: Sarin on Feb 01, 2009, 06:51 PM
I dunno if you can cast it directly on it, but you can cast pneuma one square away from it, and it will take effect over SW. I've seen champs doing that to cancel out SW before asura.

Does not take away the effect of SW. I always set up a Pneuma outside my SW when in PvP when SinX's try to grimtooth.

DS damage is horrible. Sharpshoot is better. Make use of Cranial swapping, elemental converters, and status arrows.

Sarin · Feb 02, 2009, 07:00 AM

oh yes it does. Pneuma has 3x3 cell radius, maybe you set it two squares away from SW.

Dean Stark · Feb 02, 2009, 09:17 AM

Well if you do insist on using an auto-blitzer then remember that you're gonna be taking down ppl one by one and in WoE, finding a person w/o some sort of backup nearby's almost nigh impossible. Bragi, Shapshooting, Sniper Suit's good to go for this i guess.

Pandora · Feb 02, 2009, 01:24 PM

I suggest a full DS build, trap your enemy, you can spam DS pretty fast with a decent agi and the damage output is good, unless the person's got yggs they shouldn't be able to outpot you. Unless the person has pneuma in which case you're screwed, but it would be the same with FA or blitz.

I trust your server has a reset npc? Best thing is to make your own build, see what works and what doesn't with the people on your server.

Sarin · Feb 02, 2009, 05:12 PM

Full DS is possible only in defense. In offense, it goes down within seconds. And by the way, it is outpotable.

blackgh05t · Feb 03, 2009, 01:24 AM

Quote from: Sarin on Feb 02, 2009, 07:00 AM
oh yes it does. Pneuma has 3x3 cell radius, maybe you set it two squares away from SW.

Pure BS.

O= SW and cell you're standing in.
E= Empty cell.
X= Pneuma cell.

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EOEX <-- Does not cancel out SW.
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EOXE <-- Not possible unless you're position lagged.
EEEE

EEXE
EOEE <-- Not possible again.
EEEE

EEEX
EOEE <-- SW effects stand.
EEEE

EEEX
EEEE <-- SW effect stands.
EOEE

If Pneuma canceled out safety wall, then why not just spam it on the emp 24/7?

Poki · Feb 03, 2009, 01:27 AM

Yeah, so I was right. The safety wall's effect is not taken over by pneuma. It's just a matter of fact who had the spell there first, and as someone defending, it would be smart to spam safety wall there since no one should be going melee that close.
Whatever the case, land protector shouldn't save the massive spamming of Auto-BB too.

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