sniper for mvp?

Started by vittordevitto, Sep 10, 2007, 03:24 PM

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vittordevitto

guys some questions

1- what makes the falcon assault better? same as bltz atck? (dex and int)? the weapon changes something? i mean, use a bow or a knife will make damage diferent?

2- IT1S BETTER TO FILL SOME INT? or.... full dex and agi?

3- what will be the main skill for mvp?

thx xD

Kurogasa

Main skill for mvp is still double strafe. You can get 150 dex and a 4 card +10 comp bow and out mvp alot of classes. Sniper/hunter owns atros pretty easily. Weapon wise, for falcon build you probly want bazerard. 5 int and allows sheild use. Also for some non element skills(matyr reckoning for ex), lvl 4 element weapons will help you to bypass reydric(or any anti neutral) while keeping the actual attack neutral(since its forced). This may apply to falcon assault as well.. i dont remember.

vittordevitto

errr how can i own atros?? shoot and teleport?

and.. falcon assault... does cards have any effect?? just int?? dex has no effect???

Kurogasa

Yea i believe they normally shoot and tele or use traps as well. 140+ dex, quad % carded +10 composite bow and holy element arrows will do alot of damage per DS.

For Falcon int has the most effect but dex effects it as well. its int divided by 2 and dex divided by 10.

vittordevitto

so, cards wont afect the falcon assault?

i see... i got it... falcon assault is 5x blitz atck? simple as that? O.O

geez... nice, now ...

is it true that if we put an third card of teh same one on a weapon, it gets -4% nerF?


Kurogasa

Weapon cards dont effect falcon attacks.

The 4% thing youre talking about i think i know what you mean... if you "mix" cards you can get a small overall damage bonus. This is why people prefer to use 2x hydra 2x skel worker or 3x hydra 1x skel worker. When you mix the cards it counts up one of the bonuses first before counting the next so the bonus is a bit more. IMO its not that big a deal except when youre dealing with huge damage modifier skills such as matyr reckoning and asura. If you run the numbers through a calc the damage bonus is never an extremely impressive difference but it is helpfull at times.

vittordevitto

i see, so uses teh same mechanic as blitz beat... it get ur blitz damage makes x 5 and there u go! a falcon assalt

so.. if i use bazeralt, i get +5 int, so a little more damage and fire elemt (avoiding raydric), but i still will be neutral damage

got it kurogasa!

but, what i meant is, some people say that

if i use 2 hidras

i get 40%

if i use 3

i get 20 + 20 + 16 = 56 %

and the 4 it's like

20 + 20 + 16 + 12...

it's not true?

and some even say that we can't get more than + 50% from the same card....

i undersand why 2 hidra 2 skell worker do more damage, i asked it a while ago here ^^

but people still say that on a lot of foruns out there ^^
Posted on: September 12, 2007, 06:17:01 am
so kurogasa, cards wont affect the fa... u say that only for damage, or for status effect cards?

Kurogasa

Thats not true. Its probly a rumor based on what i said here:

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The 4% thing youre talking about i think i know what you mean... if you "mix" cards you can get a small overall damage bonus. This is why people prefer to use 2x hydra 2x skel worker or 3x hydra 1x skel worker. When you mix the cards it counts up one of the bonuses first before counting the next so the bonus is a bit more. IMO its not that big a deal except when youre dealing with huge damage modifier skills such as matyr reckoning and asura. If you run the numbers through a calc the damage bonus is never an extremely impressive difference but it is helpfull at times.

In short, 4x hydra will net you 80% more damage on say a priest class, but 3xhydra 1x skell worker will be about 84% or so. 2x hydra 2x skell worker will be a little bit more than that. Mixing cards makes them stack seperately so you net a bit more damage as long as your target fits all of the catagorys of your cards. Another example: 2 hydra 1skell worker 1 santa poring would do even MORE than any of the above IF your enemy was a medium sized human wearing a bathory card.

gongkomilo

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 10, 2007, 03:24 PM
guys some questions

1- what makes the falcon assault better? same as bltz atck? (dex and int)? the weapon changes something? i mean, use a bow or a knife will make damage diferent?

2- IT1S BETTER TO FILL SOME INT? or.... full dex and agi?

3- what will be the main skill for mvp?

thx xD

actually, it depends on what type of sniper u wan to be... whether falcon sniper or agi sniper...

in my experience, if u want to be an attacker, better use falcon.. just raise yr int n dex to 99..
int will make yr falcon hit >7000 and more sp gained.
dex make u casting falcon fast.

in u want to be a tanker... eg, u wan to lvling someone in mvp.. or whatever... better use agi sniper.
u just raise yr agi n dex to 99 and use a suitable arrow....
but in order to be a tanker, u need a very fast attack (ASPD=190)...
so u need ( 2 doppelganger card + awakening potion + AGI+99 == ASPD 190 )

sniper skill like attention concentration, true sight and wind walk also will up yr hit.... so, that's all

Pandora

I solo atroce on my sniper on a low rate, I just hit and run. I do it with DS but I suppose it can be done with FA too. You hit the mvp, then you walk around until you're far enough to send another attack, you just keep going in a circle. It's a bit tricky at first but very easy once you got the hang of it. Don't let the mvp or his mob get to you, just walk around.
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Sarin

For sniper, easiest way how to kill Atroce is full dex+agi build, +10 comp bow with cruiser and some damage cards, whole archer card combo...just use True Sight and normal attack (or get some SP stuff and use DS), when he gets close just walk away...with Wind Walk you're faster.

And for those damage cards.

4xhydra 100%+20%+20%+20%+20%=180%
2x hydra 2x SW (100%+20%+20%)*(15%+15%)=182% , +10atk
3x hydra, 1x SW (100%+20%+20%+20%)*15%=184%, +5atk

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locked1nside

in low rates..
dex & agi 99

i think no need to reach up for 190 ASPD
i can't DS -ing any monster fast enough to catch 190 ASPD
if i get 190 ASP, its faster to shoot on normal attack than DS-ing
my finger isn't that fast...  :o

4 slotted composite do best...
and wear any equips to increase Dex
;D