Help : Sniper Ultimate Dmg&Speed PvP Build

Started by Shizuri, Sep 05, 2007, 07:48 PM

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Shizuri

ok, basically, im playing in a server with 1000x/1000x/1000x, but cards dont drop at that rate if im not wrong..
max lvl is 99/70

apart from the usual
+10 composite bow(3x hydra, 1x skel worker)
+8 muffler(1x raydric)
+8 tights(1x ghostring)
+8 Apple of Archer
Binoculars
+8 Shoes (matyr)
gloves[1] (1x zerom)
gloves[1] (1x zerom)

im sure theres a better build than this isnt it?
if possible those experienced snipers who dont mind sharing their build, please share with me @_@

looking for a build with high dmg and high speed, with less concern for surviving and stuff..

if anyone wants to share but finds it inconvenient can pm me ?  :-\

im looking for a pure DS one btw

centurysage

But i think ur state is good enough edi. Jz the skill u control the character.

Kurogasa


Shizuri

my stats are
str 1+4
agi 96+11
vit 42+8
int 1+5
dex 95+36
luk 1+3


im looking for a build apart form this usual eqs, eqs with better dmg and faster speed

currently i dont have the EQs that are all mentioned above, i only have

+10 composite bow(3x hydra, 1x skel)
+7 AoA
+7 Muffler(1x raydric)
Binoculars
glove[1](1x zerom)
glove[1](1x zerom)

but when dueling, i only can do like 500 500 or 700 700 dmg to a Creator NAKED.. i was wondering why..

then i did 350 350 to a sniper whereas the sniper was able to inflict 2k 2k on me..

are there any reasons why the sniper could do so much dmg apart from my defence? what bow/armours could make so high dmg? or is it the arrows?

Kurogasa

Could be arrows.. the elements could be involved. Or maybe they have mvp cards?  Turtle general thanatos etc could add alot.

Felecorr

OH yeah.

Ghostring card severely reduces YOUR neutral damage that you deal. and partially your elemental damage too. I've observed that elemental armors give something of a 2ndary bonus to your damage. But yeah, Ghostring is why your damage is sucking. Try using ED, SC and Freeze protection, but be wary of res and leaves. Or hell, Detale / Marc?

Helrouis

You have three choices of elements : Immaterial arrows, as well as Oridecon/Silver arrow.
Btw, 2ble bloody 2ble boned is the strongest if it's hydra+SW combo.
Otherwise, double Civil Servant Card and double Hydra card would be best vs Ghostring card users(+immaterial arrow).
double Hydra double Turtle general against normal players + Oridecon arrow is my standard/or Silver arrow if they used raydric cards.

Sarin

Drop rates are 1000x...hmm, in that case I suggest you getting two orleans gloves. Also, get Green Iguana and Anopheles cards to be able to get +3 dex and +3 agi food. Also balancing your build. Get exactly 150 dex with Improve Concentration, 130 agi. Maybe a few points in vit. Use slotted pantie+undershirt, and Dragon Tail card...noone uses neutral damage anymore (except some skills like Asura). Ulle's cap with stalactic golem card, might seem strange but stun will be first thing people gonna try on you, and from what you wrote it seems like MvP cards are rare there.

The hardest part will be tactics, not build. Learn how to use traps, switching equips and arrows.

And for that old dilemma between 3xhydra 1x SW and 2xhydra 2xSW....well, I published formulas somewhere on these forums already, but I did some testing about it later. The difference is...well, almost isn't. Approx 1-2 points of damage for normal attack. I prefer 3+1, because it is easier to get, and it works better against mounted characters...unless you got another weapon specially against them.

Helrouis

True. 3 damage is still amplified on skills. heh. anyway, I just prefer the hunter *as a hunter*. Knight of Abysmal etc.

Sarin

Okay, in other words...the damage difference is approx. 0.5%. And that is NOT amplified by anything else. So...for example in case of 20k asura the difference is 100 points. Not much, eh?

Aragorn

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 12:29 AM
Okay, in other words...the damage difference is approx. 0.5%. And that is NOT amplified by anything else. So...for example in case of 20k asura the difference is 100 points. Not much, eh?
stop saying obvious stufs!! and just get on to the topic... (>.>)

just max out the dex and you can kill anybody... no more yatayata... (>.>)

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

Sarin


Aragorn

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 12:43 AM
Stop spamming, please.
im not spamming i gave him my guide... (>.>)

so don't be insecured...(>.>)

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

Sarin

THAT is supposed to be guide? I really hope it is a joke...

Helrouis

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 12:52 AM
THAT is supposed to be guide? I really hope it is a joke...
This topic is in great danger.

Guest

i see where this is going so STOP NOW -_-

Aragorn

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 12:52 AM
THAT is supposed to be guide? I really hope it is a joke...
why are you always doing this to me... im already avoiding you becoz your no good... (>.>)

so stop being insecured... (>.>)

 You continue to flame and troll even after I warned you once
Come back once you think you can get alone with everyone without having to flame and troll them

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

Guest

thats it.........
i can see those tiny text notes of yours >.>

Aragorn this has gone on long enough

Helrouis

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 12:29 AM
Okay, in other words...the damage difference is approx. 0.5%. And that is NOT amplified by anything else. So...for example in case of 20k asura the difference is 100 points. Not much, eh?
I got your point, but

QuoteHelp : Sniper Ultimate Dmg&Speed PvP Build

Sarin

At point where you will feel the difference between 3xbloody boned and 2xbloody x2boned either sniper or its target is dead.

Anyway, if you want that max damage feel and you have time to make specialized bow against mounted characters, go for it.

Helrouis

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 14, 2008, 04:04 AM
At point where you will feel the difference between 3xbloody boned and 2xbloody x2boned either sniper or its target is dead.

Anyway, if you want that max damage feel and you have time to make specialized bow against mounted characters, go for it.

lol, yea, it only applies for the rich ones. /heh

CEO of Emo-Corporation

woaaaaaaaaaaa!!!^^
i dont understand why guys
always want to pick a fight  :D
stop!stop!stop!
MAKE love not WAR  :-* << ( what a stupid thing to say :-[ ) lol^^
(on the topic)
ummmmm i simply use sniper combo cards+zealtous mask+aloe vera  ;D
maxing my AGI and DEX then rest is VIT ^^



~znro~

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Helrouis

Quote from: CEO of Emo-Corporation on Jun 14, 2008, 04:16 AM
woaaaaaaaaaaa!!!^^
i dont understand why guys
always want to pick a fight  :D
stop!stop!stop!
MAKE love not WAR  :-* << ( what a stupid thing to say :-[ ) lol^^
(on the topic)
ummmmm i simply use sniper combo cards+zealtous mask+aloe vera  ;D
maxing my AGI and DEX then rest is VIT ^^



~znro~

We're just sharing opinions.

Loki

If this is for PvP build. Traps + +10 Double Bloody Double Boned Bow[4] + Status Ailment Arrows.
QuoteWhatever floats your boat.

Helrouis

Quote from: Loki on Jun 14, 2008, 08:39 AM
If this is for PvP build. Traps + +10 Double Bloody Double Boned Bow[4] + Status Ailment Arrows.

Poison prerrably. /ok

Ghostie

ok, believe it or not, this is the bow and accessories that i use, and seem to work pretty damn good.

+10 Paper, 2xhydra, metaling bow comp bow.
+10 2xboned 2xhydra comp bow.
+10 ED Sniping suit
+10 Marc Sniping Suit
Wikebine Orleans Glove
Zerom Orleans Glove
+8 Feather Beret
+8 noxious Crest of the Rider (garment)
+9 Shadow Walk boots (no slot, but great against magic users)

It works pretty well for me, strip with the first bow, switch the the hydra/ skel worker bow and go to work.

Also, try to use Charge Arrow and traps for those evil Sin-x's and knights/pally's, AND wizzies.  you can out range them. =D

Posted on: Jun 14, 2008, 10:05 am
OH! and max out that dex, get max aspd and put the rest of the stats in luk/vit.  not too much vit tho, or those thanatos users will eat you alive!

as far as arrows, i use curse, immaterial, steel/ori, and silver.
<Ghostie> ? aura
<Kyo> aura: -bleep- -bleep- -bleep-moogle -bleep-bag -bleep- -bleep-wrangler

So yeah...Aura sucks. =D

Helrouis

Quote from: Ghostie on Jun 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
ok, believe it or not, this is the bow and accessories that i use, and seem to work pretty damn good.

+10 Paper, 2xhydra, metaling bow comp bow.
+10 2xboned 2xhydra comp bow.
+10 ED Sniping suit
+10 Marc Sniping Suit
Wikebine Orleans Glove
Zerom Orleans Glove
+8 Feather Beret
+8 noxious Crest of the Rider (garment)
+9 Shadow Walk boots (no slot, but great against magic users)

It works pretty well for me, strip with the first bow, switch the the hydra/ skel worker bow and go to work.

Also, try to use Charge Arrow and traps for those evil Sin-x's and knights/pally's, AND wizzies.  you can out range them. =D

Posted on: Jun 14, 2008, 10:05 am
OH! and max out that dex, get max aspd and put the rest of the stats in luk/vit.  not too much vit tho, or those thanatos users will eat you alive!

as far as arrows, i use curse, immaterial, steel/ori, and silver.

yes, shockwave trap seems to be draining out huge amounts of SP, so if a sniper cast it on a champion which is about to asura, holy crap, are you using GR? "nub said"