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Offline Kolby

[Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« on: May 15, 2013, 10:16 am »
So basically I'm in a non-renewal server, 99/70 and  in the ragnarok episode where the town Manuk exists. I tried using composite bow +10 2hydra card and 2 skel worker and it works painfully against other characters since most of them in pvp uses deviling so I only DS them into like 100+. So my suggestion is 1 thanatos 1 hydra 1 skel and 1 turtle general card will that work for me? Also, I noticed I miss hitting an Alchemist and a Paladin when I was pvping them. I was like "Is that even possible?" I had all the buffs(sniper) on yet I still missed, any suggestions?
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Offline Meta

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 12:39 pm »
BG bow if it's a normal server. Anything else depends on the kind of server you're on.

Offline Triper

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 01:07 pm »
Flee builds and wrong elements do exist and make misses happen along Kyrie+right reduces and auto-guard, etc.
I just don't get it, you do 100 vs devi users? You just use neutral arrows? AFAIK, you can change the element of the arrow with converts along using elemental arrows so you can do really fun combos like status arrows with element.

Also, if you're missing on flee chars, thanatos will be junk since they probably won't have vit to make thanatos be good enough since, to it hit hard, you need vit+def>100, if I remember it right. If you're missing because of flee, get a phreeoni[if mvp cards are +/- easy to get[I would think that they're if you're talking about a thana]], if not, change some gears for +hit or use traps with status weapons and then swap to dmg weapon and finish the kill.

Offline Sarin

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 05:49 pm »
Miss on paladin will probably be autoguard. As said here before, change element using arrows. Have a few different hotkeyed on battlemode...at least silver, fire, wind, shadow and immaterial to cover most used elements, and couple of status arrows...mute and stun are easy to make in good quantity.

Well built sniper can't be missing due to lacking hit, at least on 99/70. There must be other reasons, usually those are blocking skills like autoguard or pneuma.

Offline Meta

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 07:20 pm »
It could be Defending Aura, reductions, armor defense, and vit reducing your damage to 0. Happens to me a lot in RF's PvP room. It'll show as a miss.

Offline Kolby

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 09:13 pm »
Hey guys thanks for the replies. I'm not sure what is a BG bow what is that? Anyways, I think I missed the pally and alchemist because they were on auto-guard and kyrie respectively because I turned of my effects when I was having a fight with them. Other than that, I think switching arrows seem to be cool idea but what status bow do you recommend on making? Do I make a few status bows each with the same card of status card on each bows or do I mix the status cards into a bow?
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Offline Triper

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 07:42 am »
http://ratemyserver.net/battleground.php

^ that, check the bows in there.

@Status Bow: More at one single bow means more sure chances of a single status, diversity means more possibilities to happen. Up2ur game style tbh.

Offline Kolby

Re: Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 05:42 am »
http://ratemyserver.net/battleground.php

^ that, check the bows in there.

@Status Bow: More at one single bow means more sure chances of a single status, diversity means more possibilities to happen. Up2ur game style tbh.
Hey Triper thanks again but I have one last question. Is it possible to kill a Pally? I just tried DS a pally with Thanatos Card+hydra+skel/Status Bow(LOD CARD) it seems that I could reach 300+ the most :|
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Offline rhythmixer

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2013, 06:15 am »
The answer for your question? Yes. Why?

LoD has a chance of Coma, right? There you go.  /heh

But on a more serious note - if you are just dealing 300+ damage the most, then there are some possibilities such as:
  • The pally you fought doesn't have high vit and/or def, making damage less due to thanatos and possibly defending aura (Defender in other servers) is active
  • Assuming you used an element arrow, the pally might have an armor to reduce the damage from that certain element + defending aura
  • The complete BG armor set offers demihuman resistance. Assuming the pally stated also used demihuman damage reducing headgears and shield w/ thara frog, coupling that w/ defending aura

Offline Triper

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2013, 06:54 am »
How does LoD card works there? Old config or as it's on officials that was fixed some months[1-3 years?] ago?

If it works as on officials, I would say that it may not be that good to use because only coma will work with ranged attacks, not any of the other effects will from the card. Still, Coma is Coma and only GTB blocks it so, if everything fails ... Really depends on how easy are to get mvp cards there, where you play.

And I would say that isn't impossible but vs something that has a skill that makes most of your damage be 1/3, you just can't expect that the normal ways work and if the paladin is stacking reduces, even worse.
You're probably left with traps, more spam with more atk gear on to compensate the defender reduction[won't help much anyway], strip gears with strip cards[something not super awesome to rely on but may help] and status for more damage with a quick change of arrows/bow. There is also FA that bypasses Defender but the delay is horrible outside of bragi so meh, not worth to me but up2u :s

Offline Kolby

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #10 on: Jun 29, 2013, 11:07 am »
Hey Triper, what do you think of this build?



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Offline Triper

Re: [Non-Renewal] Need a good weapon for PVP
« Reply #11 on: Jun 29, 2013, 07:18 pm »
It really depends a ton of a player preference, if that works for you, go with it since it's fine.

The only think that I maybe would change is the bow for a 3/1 but dunno exactly if that would be better or not since the difference is small and depends a bit on your total dex/atk. Lazy to do math at this moment :c