Stats build

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

please help  me.....
what is the best for champ...
it's stats and skill build..
thx....
this is my stats:
str 93
vit 1
agi1
int 60
dex 85
luk 1

[Relics]

Moved to job discussion

[yawnzz]

Move it to the recycle bin...please?
99 str
99 agi
25 dex
no exceptions
best build

[Larguirucho]

please help  me.....
what is the best for champ...
it's stats and skill build..
thx....
this is my stats:
str 93
vit 1
agi1
int 60
dex 85
luk 1

It's imposible to hel you if u don't determine wich kind of build. Combo? PvP? MvP?

@yawnzz: That kind of build never are the best.

Saludos.-

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

please help  me.....
what is the best for champ...
it's stats and skill build..
thx....
this is my stats:
str 93
vit 1
agi1
int 60
dex 85
luk 1

It's imposible to hel you if u don't determine wich kind of build. Combo? PvP? MvP?

@yawnzz: That kind of build never are the best.

Saludos.-

please tell me all kind of champion build...
and i will choose which is the best for me...
cause i'm new to play as champion...

[Larguirucho]

please help  me.....
what is the best for champ...
it's stats and skill build..
thx....
this is my stats:
str 93
vit 1
agi1
int 60
dex 85
luk 1

It's imposible to hel you if u don't determine wich kind of build. Combo? PvP? MvP?

@yawnzz: That kind of build never are the best.

Saludos.-

please tell me all kind of champion build...
and i will choose which is the best for me...
cause i'm new to play as champion...

Basically, there are 3 kinds of Champion's Build:
-Guillotine Fist: can be PvP, MvP, WoE or Battlegrounds.
-Finger Offensive: can be PvP. Also WoE or Battlegrounds, but are not the best.
-Combo: can be PvP, WoE or Battlegrounds.

I must know, which one you like and if....
....It's for PvP?
....It's for MvP?
....It's for WoE?
....It's for Battlegrounds?

Saludos.-

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

how about PVP and MVP build??
it's stats and skilll...

[Larguirucho]

This kind of build are not easy and may be controversial. This is because MvvP Builds (depending on server, if it has warper to any level of dungeons or not) usually doesn't need lot of VIT, but for PvP VIT is an important Stat in order to not be influenced by Stun for example. So, this Build is mostly focused to MvP in a server where ther's a warper:

http://calcx.wushuang.ws/?aaDbLbibHacaHbGazabaiaapokefaFaFaaljhhHaaaaaatFgld7dWeunxc5lsaalHaanMewnMbNeehaajkkhfakaaabkkaaaaaaflfaaaaMaaaaH

And the same Build but changind stuff in order to adapt it to PvP:

http://calcx.wushuang.ws/?aaDbLbibHacaHbGazabaiaabkkananaDaDlkha4aaaaaakXaad7e9eulfcnnDbpnEgKnMbNnMbNhheeajkkhfakaaabkkaaaaaaflfaaaaMaaaaH

Look, i replace Armor and this build uses Orlean's Gown, cause you're not using Champion's Card Combos (cause i replace Waste) and this is an alternative way to have no interrption cast. This build has commons reductions, but low cast (I think so). It's the only way I can "adapt" this MvP build to PvP build. Is better having ONE MvP Champ and ONE PvP Champ (depends always on time and rates obviusly).

Saludos.-

PS: I don't know if all that stuff (particualry Flying Evil Wings) are avaiable in your server.

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

wow thx ya......
but why champion doesn't need much agi...

[Sarin]

Champ does not use agi, because there are more important stats for him. And champ really suffers from lack of stat points.

Unless going combo, champ has no need for high aspd. And combo builds really suck, because combo champs just don't have enough stat or skill points to really work well.

[Larguirucho]

Totally agree. PvP Champ must be Asura (newbies way) or Finger Offensive (pro way). Asura is easier to play, don't have to be really skilled in order to use it properly. Finger Offensive is (I think) the BEST PvP Build, but you must know how to use it or you won't be able to do ANYTHING. Combo can be used for PvP (is fun while wearing Ifirt's Rings) but... It's a waste of time and sucks hard. It's the kind of build that it's only used for leveling.

Saludos.-

[Relics]

imo asura isn't 'the noob way' it's rather effective if you pull it off correctly.

I mean you can waste 20 FO's on a priest and not be able to kill him, or you approach correctly and get an asura off.
Esp in teamplay, Asura is just faster, and i'd rather have a champ who prioritizes asura over FO.

So no, FO is not the best build, it's a mix of whatever skill you apply where it is needed, imo.

ps any unskilled asura champ gets wrecked, so there is definitly a learning curve if you try to face up to more skilled players.

[Larguirucho]

imo asura isn't 'the noob way' it's rather effective if you pull it off correctly.

I mean you can waste 20 FO's on a priest and not be able to kill him, or you approach correctly and get an asura off.
Esp in teamplay, Asura is just faster, and i'd rather have a champ who prioritizes asura over FO.

So no, FO is not the best build, it's a mix of whatever skill you apply where it is needed, imo.

ps any unskilled asura champ gets wrecked, so there is definitly a learning curve if you try to face up to more skilled players.

FO Build usually need much more DEX tha Asura Build, so Absorb Spirits and Asura will Miss (if Asura was casting). That is against another champion. Asura usually has more reductions than FO (which can be endowed). I mean specially element reductions. You can simply use Asura and kill that HP while using FO build. I said that Asura is noobs way cause it's well known that there a lot of noobs in low/mid and high rates that when they die, take his/her champ, comes Asura end go off to healer and comes back and so on (THAT's what i was trying to said when said noobs way). FO can be easily used like an Asura type build perfectly (maybe this asura will do less damage but usually can easily kill a HP), but Asura Build not always can be used like FO build, so FO is much more flexible than Asura build. That's why i said it's the best.

Saludos.-

[Kawaii]

To me, champion builds on 3 main stats. Str, Dex, Int

i suggest using around
80~90 Str
60~80 Dex
85~95 Int

and rest on Vit

[Relics]

imo asura isn't 'the noob way' it's rather effective if you pull it off correctly.

I mean you can waste 20 FO's on a priest and not be able to kill him, or you approach correctly and get an asura off.
Esp in teamplay, Asura is just faster, and i'd rather have a champ who prioritizes asura over FO.

So no, FO is not the best build, it's a mix of whatever skill you apply where it is needed, imo.

ps any unskilled asura champ gets wrecked, so there is definitly a learning curve if you try to face up to more skilled players.

FO Build usually need much more DEX tha Asura Build, so Absorb Spirits and Asura will Miss (if Asura was casting). That is against another champion. Asura usually has more reductions than FO (which can be endowed). I mean specially element reductions. You can simply use Asura and kill that HP while using FO build. I said that Asura is noobs way cause it's well known that there a lot of noobs in low/mid and high rates that when they die, take his/her champ, comes Asura end go off to healer and comes back and so on (THAT's what i was trying to said when said noobs way). FO can be easily used like an Asura type build perfectly (maybe this asura will do less damage but usually can easily kill a HP), but Asura Build not always can be used like FO build, so FO is much more flexible than Asura build. That's why i said it's the best.

Saludos.-

There are tons of ways to play with someone that sorbs spritits, such as palm pushing, freezing with marina and then efisting.
Again, like i said, it depends on skill, there are different ways to approach and asura someone.
IMO, a combination of FO and Asura is 'best' you can't just solely rely on FO only to do the job.

[Larguirucho]

Spoiler

imo asura isn't 'the noob way' it's rather effective if you pull it off correctly.

I mean you can waste 20 FO's on a priest and not be able to kill him, or you approach correctly and get an asura off.
Esp in teamplay, Asura is just faster, and i'd rather have a champ who prioritizes asura over FO.

So no, FO is not the best build, it's a mix of whatever skill you apply where it is needed, imo.

ps any unskilled asura champ gets wrecked, so there is definitly a learning curve if you try to face up to more skilled players.

FO Build usually need much more DEX tha Asura Build, so Absorb Spirits and Asura will Miss (if Asura was casting). That is against another champion. Asura usually has more reductions than FO (which can be endowed). I mean specially element reductions. You can simply use Asura and kill that HP while using FO build. I said that Asura is noobs way cause it's well known that there a lot of noobs in low/mid and high rates that when they die, take his/her champ, comes Asura end go off to healer and comes back and so on (THAT's what i was trying to said when said noobs way). FO can be easily used like an Asura type build perfectly (maybe this asura will do less damage but usually can easily kill a HP), but Asura Build not always can be used like FO build, so FO is much more flexible than Asura build. That's why i said it's the best.

Saludos.-

There are tons of ways to play with someone that sorbs spritits, such as palm pushing, freezing with marina and then efisting.
Again, like i said, it depends on skill, there are different ways to approach and asura someone.
IMO, a combination of FO and Asura is 'best' you can't just solely rely on FO only to do the job.

[close]

You can Palm Push if you can get clos enough. Is preety easy to a FO to inflict status too (and from distance). I don't like freezing, y almost always use Marc (this cause in my server Ghost is quite expensive that i can't afford it). As there're diferents ways in order to aproach and asura someone, there're also different ways in order to avoid and survive it..
I've said that "FO BUILD is the best", but this doesn't means that FO BUILD only uses that skill..... That's OBVIOUS! I mean full PvP Asura and sometimes other skills is not the way, I prefer always other skills (specially FO) and sometimes (worst case) asura, but using Stat Distribution like a FO (DEX/STR/VIT, NO INT) and not like Asura (STR/DEX/INT).

Saludos.-

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

so  FO stats use DEX, STR, VIT, NO INT and Asura stats use STR, DEX, INT....
Both FO and asura need high dex to instant cast right.....

[Relics]

Insta cast is 150 for both.

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

ok thx very much all....
Posted on: Dec 30, 2009, 10:33 pmOh ya one more. . .
how about ashura... how to make asura deals a huge damage.. which stats i must raise..?

[Relics]

STR/INT

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

STR/INT

Which is bigger str or int...

[Relics]

Depends on your amount of SP.

The more SP, the more STR will affect the damage of Asura.

[.::AsSaSsiN-X::.]

I've create ashura build.. s0 i must raise dex 0nly 150 f0r instan cast, and the rest f0r str and int... right..?

Posted on: Jan 11, 2010, 12:36 pmIs asura build doesn't need agi and vit....
its so hard to leveling with it...
because i always hit by a monster....
and my HP low too...
please tell me champion asura build... best hunting place....
thx....