Is my monk a failure?

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Is my monk a failure?

Here is my monk status; some people called it a "hybrid monk":
STR 53
AGI 67
VIT 20
INT 25
DEX 20

Help! Can someone give me tips to fix it! Now im increasing my agility up to 91, is that correct? I want it to be a Combo Monk!

What skill is the best for my monk?

>0< help!

well im playing on an official server so the rates are 1/1/1.. so becoming Champion is the later issue... btw i heard asura champions builds include str & int or str & dex which one is the best?

STR&DEX BUILD
STR 99
DEX 90

For fast casting, not so high damage

STR&INT BUILD
STR 99
INT 90

For super high damage, but slow casting

Can you tell be the best stats in the above format (e.g. dex 70 int 50 etc.)

Skills too please ^0^

Ansuz Isaz

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Anubis's Guide to Building a Monk is easily the best and most detailed Monk guide you're going to get. n_n I highly suggest looking through as much of it as possible.

Instead of worrying about your agility, you need far more strength at the moment. Try to reach at least 80 before aiming a little more for AGI. Also, I really consider 91 to be an over-kill in AGI in a traditional server. o_o

In terms of Asura, STR > INT in the long run. The main reason is that you don't actually get bonuses for INT when it gomes to Asura, but only the amount of SP you have - though INT does play a minor part in the SP-formula, it does pretty much nothing in comparison. It's worth more of your time to obtain STR and DEX. You need DEX. Period. Without it, you won't live long enough for the Asura to get through.

Again, I really recommend you reading that guide. n_n It'll cover everything for you.

Helrouis

Quote from: ~yuk4ri-cHan on Jun 13, 2008, 10:10 AM
Is my monk a failure?

Here is my monk status; some people called it a "hybrid monk":
STR 53
AGI 67
VIT 20
INT 25
DEX 20

Help! Can someone give me tips to fix it! Now im increasing my agility up to 91, is that correct? I want it to be a Combo Monk!

What skill is the best for my monk?

>0< help!

well im playing on an official server so the rates are 1/1/1.. so becoming Champion is the later issue... btw i heard asura champions builds include str & int or str & dex which one is the best?

STR&DEX BUILD
STR 99
DEX 90

For fast casting, not so high damage

STR&INT BUILD
STR 99
INT 90

For super high damage, but slow casting

Can you tell be the best stats in the above format (e.g. dex 70 int 50 etc.)

Skills too please ^0^


Increase your str instead. That's my advice. That amount of agility is enough, supplemented by heal everytime you get hit.

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

This should be in GenDis...

That's a hybrid monk. There's no point in making him a combo monk at this point.

Like Helrouis said, pump STR. 100 is absolute minimum for a Monk and recommended only for extreme comboers. 120 is optimal.

Helrouis

For the Champion btw, you may want to be the int str type to mvp effectively(yea, the suicidal one) but at least you get the rares, and also get a phen. /ok

Sarin

Notice there is no reseter, no healer...I wouldn't advise such suicidal build.

IMO best champ build is asura/TSS based. 120 str, 130 dex, rest vit. No combo stuff, but if you learn with this it's damn good killer.

Helrouis

Quote from: Sarin on Jun 16, 2008, 10:54 PM
Notice there is no reseter, no healer...I wouldn't advise such suicidal build.

IMO best champ build is asura/TSS based. 120 str, 130 dex, rest vit. No combo stuff, but if you learn with this it's damn good killer.
He say he's still a monk. So when he turned into a champ, i recommend the MVP type. /ok

Sarin

Man, MvP suicidal build can't do anything at WoE...with such slow asura...don't forget, phen and such stuff does NOT work at WoE.

Helrouis

>.> in defending, this type of champ is the one of the only way to build the tough guy whacking the emperium. + he can support in healing/buffing too.
In offensive, he got many many snaps. =]

Then next:in MVP, they can dish out around 100k damage.(lex`ed)then it means 14 hits of that to sinX eremes would kill it. =]

Infection

Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 17, 2008, 05:32 PM
>.> in defending, this type of champ is the one of the only way to build the tough guy whacking the emperium. + he can support in healing/buffing too.
In offensive, he got many many snaps. =]

Then next:in MVP, they can dish out around 100k damage.(lex`ed)then it means 14 hits of that to sinX eremes would kill it. =]
Wow, you should be an English teacher.
sup.

Guest

be nice >.>
if that starts a flame war im blaming u =/

Infection

Quote from: JJJ on Jun 18, 2008, 05:22 PM
be nice >.>
if that starts a flame war im blaming u =/
How wasn't that nice..?

Oh, you sensed my sarcasm?
sup.

Poki

I like the tactical monk/champions better.  They live longer, do a bit better than average damage and they have nice defence.

Helrouis

Quote from: Poki on Jun 18, 2008, 07:11 PM
I like the tactical monk/champions better.  They live longer, do a bit better than average damage and they have nice defence.
Can you explain what you mean of tactical? In respect of stats and skills. just curious. I bet any build+equips has tactics. =P

Poki

Stats:

70-80 STR
80 DEX
Rest int and vit

Acolyte Job level: 50
Monk Job Level: 50


Divine Protection     9 / 10          
Demon Bane    1/ 10         
Ruwach    1 / 1          
Pneuma   1 / 1         
Teleportation   2 / 2         
Warp Portal    4 / 4         
Heal    10 / 10          
Increase Agility    10 / 10         
Decrease Agility    1 /10         
Aqua Benedicta    0 / 1          
Signum Crucis   0 / 10         
Angelus   0 / 10         
Blessing   10 / 10         
Cure   0 / 1         


Iron Hand   5 / 10         
Spirits Recovery   2 / 5         
Call Spirits   5 / 5         
Absorb Spirits   1 / 1         
Raging Trifecta Blow   5 / 10         
Body Relocation   1 / 1         
Dodge   5 / 10         
Occult Impaction   3 / 5         
Finger Offensive   5 / 5         
Steel Body   3 / 5         
Blade Stop   2 / 5         
Fury   3 / 5         
Asura Strike   3 / 5         
Raging Quadruple Blow   3 / 5         
Raging Thrust   3 / 5         

Just pnuema, TSS anyone, snap away, heal if injured, continue with process, snap away, absorb your own spirits for sp, come back and fight etc.

It's easily levelling up with this build too. For levelling, you can just get occult and go somewhere with monsters that have high def and just go crazy.
Or go to Anubis and heal them to death, that works too.

Champion is fun with this build since you get more skill points for occult to be maxed and you get PPS.  You can land an occult inside a PPS making it look like 2 hits of PPS in one move. Of course, you could also then throw the rest of the spheres at them since PPS already pushed them away.

That's what I consider tactical. I don't know if you had another one in mind.

Helrouis

QuoteIt's easily levelling up with this build too. For levelling, you can just get occult and go somewhere with monsters that have high def and just go crazy.
Or go to Anubis and heal them to death, that works too
does ygg leaf owns an anubis? I was wondering if a novice use it, it can kill, right?

Guest

lol ya a ygg leaf can pwn anubis

Helrouis

Quote from: JJJ on Jun 20, 2008, 02:55 AM
lol ya a ygg leaf can pwn anubis
Thanks for the information, hmm, maybe i'll reconsider that snipers can be pretty good at that for their dex.

Poki

ygg leaf does hurt Anubis, but it doesn't kill it.  Using a sniper for that wouldn't really matter. It'll only reduce the Anubis' health by like 20% but it still saves SP from DSing.

Think of it as resurrection from the priest, if it were to one-hit KO Anubis, then turn undead would be pretty useless.

Guest

lol well using a ygg leaf has a small chance to insta kill it...
usually for me it takes about 5 leafs for the insta kill to come in and pwn it <3

and the same applies to res.... its not a insta kill but has a small chance to kill it none the less =P

Poki

There's no instant kill for ygg leafs and res. The reason you might have killed it was because it was dying from the other tries of ygg leafs...
If there was a chance for instant killing, it'd be a total mess and makes turn undead look terrible.  Might as well just level a priest with ygg leaves and let them save a lot of skill points.



Poki

I suppose you're right. Hrmm... I swear that didn't happen for me.
Whatever the case, ygg leaves work as instant kills.

Guest

^^ the bad side of that is the chance of insta cast happening is controlled by luk XD
so with my lil one luk in those screen shots it took like 9 leaves to finally kill it x3

Helrouis

This means every class can do it then. Only priests have a higher chance by the use of TU.

ulzimate

Quote from: Poki on Jun 19, 2008, 08:03 PM
Stats:

70-80 STR
80 DEX
Rest int and vit

Acolyte Job level: 50
Monk Job Level: 50


Divine Protection     9 / 10          
Demon Bane    1/ 10         
Ruwach    1 / 1          
Pneuma   1 / 1         
Teleportation   2 / 2         
Warp Portal    4 / 4         
Heal    10 / 10          
Increase Agility    10 / 10         
Decrease Agility    1 /10         
Aqua Benedicta    0 / 1          
Signum Crucis   0 / 10         
Angelus   0 / 10         
Blessing   10 / 10         
Cure   0 / 1         


Iron Hand   5 / 10         
Spirits Recovery   2 / 5         
Call Spirits   5 / 5         
Absorb Spirits   1 / 1         
Raging Trifecta Blow   5 / 10         
Body Relocation   1 / 1         
Dodge   5 / 10         
Occult Impaction   3 / 5         
Finger Offensive   5 / 5         
Steel Body   3 / 5         
Blade Stop   2 / 5         
Fury   3 / 5         
Asura Strike   3 / 5         
Raging Quadruple Blow   3 / 5         
Raging Thrust   3 / 5         

Just pnuema, TSS anyone, snap away, heal if injured, continue with process, snap away, absorb your own spirits for sp, come back and fight etc.

It's easily levelling up with this build too. For levelling, you can just get occult and go somewhere with monsters that have high def and just go crazy.
Or go to Anubis and heal them to death, that works too.

Champion is fun with this build since you get more skill points for occult to be maxed and you get PPS.  You can land an occult inside a PPS making it look like 2 hits of PPS in one move. Of course, you could also then throw the rest of the spheres at them since PPS already pushed them away.

That's what I consider tactical. I don't know if you had another one in mind.


How do you get that skill build to work? You need 10 Divine Protection and Demon Bane for Iron Fist. <_<